Suing common cheaters users is a dick move. Minor or not, you don't ruin a family's life for something like that.
You IP ban them and get over it.
You IP ban them and get over it.
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14-Year Old Video Game Cheater Sued, Mom Says He's A Scapegoat
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Hopefully he never used her credit card for anything or that would be hard to argue.
It's just an attempt to make a statement. My hunch is they announce the lawsuit, settle for nothing other than a promise of non disclosure and their message gets sent to the cheaters out there.
Okay, you can't be that much older than me with saying no safety seats in cars
But back to what you were saying, times are different but more things change things stay the same as they say, and I believe that to be true.
I don't condone what he did, but of course it is unfair to the parents. And he's 14. Even to this day your parent finds out your cheating or making a mid to cheat at a game, they won't bat an eyelash. Most people wouldn't because as I said, it's about context. The examination example I posted.
Everyone knows about the negative side to the internet, but at a certain point, especially when someone is 14. My daughter is eight, so I am vigilant with her online access and set parental controls. But at some point, I will loosen the reigns and unless I see warning signs or she gives me reason to not trust her, I'm not going to monitoring her.
Our parents had different things to worry about, yes, but at a certain point for many of us they loosened their vigilance greatly. Every generation says times are different, but they're really not, just always different outlets and ways of producing itself.
My point is that too many people are quick to judge the parents and give parenting advice on how she dropped the ball, and well, I don't agree with that. I mean yes maybe she is a horrible mother. But no one knows that. Maybe she is a great mother. Nobody knows that.
At the end of a day, a great parent can still have a child make shitty decisions. Like I said, I had fantastic parents, yet I admit I did some shitty decisions, and some with them not knowing about it.
I'm not sure what your point is? I specifically mentioned there was nothing notable about it other than my own amusement. I can't find it funny or something? I also laughed at their usage of "Nobody likes a cheater." and the fact that they mis-numbered the claims. I hope that isn't a problem
Has the OP updated the thread yet? Are people still coming in thinking the poor innocent kid is in this situation because Epic wants to make an example out of him?
The parent should be taking steps to cooperate with Epic. Allowing the kid to make yet another bad video doesn't give me hope that she may try to do this.
The parent should be taking steps to cooperate with Epic. Allowing the kid to make yet another bad video doesn't give me hope that she may try to do this.
This is the most important takeaway from situations like this. Do not start casting blame.
What about when the parent finds out the kid was doing shitty things and continues to let them keep doing it?
It's about the challenged DMCA not the EULA. The kid wanted to keep his hack video up when Epic wanted it taken down using DMCA, the kid challenged, Epic accepted the challenge. The kid forced this.
Not really. He has released a video admitting he did everything he is being accused of after the lawsuit and his Mom's letter. You really wouldn't consider it being a good parent to maybe restrict his internet usage at that point. I am pretty sure my parents would have kept me from doing things if I had pending litigation.
Perhaps his mother isn't as computer literate. Perhaps you can't stop people from doing what they're bound to do. There's a million and a half reasons why he may have been able to do that, and someone who is already known for making unsound decisions isn't expected to start making sound decisions on the turn of a dime, especially when they're still in "science has proven that my brain can't process logical consequences correctly" mode.
I have a question: are you a parent?
The kid is an employee of a company who profits over hurting Epic's business. This isn't about an EULA violation.
"employee"
well, looks like people are suing minors that are working for a company paying minors that technically can't work, since 15 is usually the minimum age for minimum wage, last I checked
I reserve the right to be dead wrong on that, doe
well, looks like people are suing minors that are working for a company paying minors that technically can't work, since 15 is usually the minimum age for minimum wage, last I checked
I reserve the right to be dead wrong on that, doe
What is the source of this claim? It certainly isn't alleged in the complaint
Violating the EULA is though
this is a myth
No I am not a parent but I was a child who did stupid things as well and my parents took steps to stop me from continuing the activity if it warranted it. In the event of me committing a cyber crime I am pretty sure my parents would have confiscated my computer while the trial was still pending at the very least. Hand waving away that you can't stop a 14 year old is ignoring the nature of this crime involving the internet and computer his parents are providing to him which they could take from him.
Okay so you guys are conflating entirely different lawsuits. The addicted cheats people have nothing to do with this kid
The two defendants referenced there are Charles Vraspir and Brandon Broom
You're mistaken. The original Kotaku article which the mod quoted doesn't name names but the followup Kotaku article does in fact confirm one of the two defendants is 14 years old.
Kotaku is wrong then, not me. This kid was not even sued until 2 weeks after that article was written
Charles Vraspir and Brandon Broom were sued on 10/10 for being moderators and support staff for AddictedCheats
Caleb Rogers was sued on 10/23 in response to his DMCA counterclaim filed on 10/17. The article they're citing was written on 10/12.
They have nothing to do with each other
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Could he have used a cell phone?
Could he have used his friend's cell phone or computer?
A tablet?
His mom's Kindle Fire?
I mean, come on. The only thing being handwaved is the fact that no parent can truly control their child once they hit the age of self-actualization.
So I found a corroborating source from torrentfreaks of all places.
https://torrentfreak.com/epic-sues-fortnite-cheaters-for-copyright-infringement-171012/
They even have copies of the civil claims uploaded. This was some shoddy reporting on Kotaku's part especially by their editors who should've sussed out the unrelated trials.
The video was made while he was playing GTAV so no pretty sure it was on his PC. I am pretty sure I would not be hanging out with friends if I had just opened my parents up to a lawsuit.
A kid in my family got in trouble over the weekend. No phone, internet, computer, tablet, or games. It was easy to make sure the person had no access to the things. The items were taken (controllers, password changed, router blocked the devices or put their bandwidth to 1kbps, and if the kid was spotted trying to access it they would extend their punishment. Parent's are responsible for what their kid can or can't do, and they shouldn't throw their hands up in a, "what are you going to do, they are too much for me, they out smart me at every corner. Let them do what they want, don't blame me."