16 year old MAGA bro gets soda thrown at him at Whataburger

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Skelepuzzle

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It’s too bad that news site mentioned the “witness” and then went back and retracted that part of the story. It’s impossible to really say much about it without the full story.

If it’s true they were saying such horrible things then they are obvious scumbag kids. I still don’t agree with what he did though.i don’t think anything a bunch of kids say excuse an adult doing that. I’m totally not against them verbally confronting them though.

If the “witness” stuff isn’t true, and the guy did it truly unprovoked and only because someone was wearing the hat then it’s beyond ridiculous and totally unacceptable, kids or not, and he deserved to be fired and arrested. No one should be advocating for that sort of thing.
One of their twitter accounts was found earlier in this thread, where they use the N word frequently. I believe the witness and that they were intimidated by death threats.

 

Na'onak

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Whataburger employees all backed the kids and stated the attack was completely unprovoked.

That, plus the quote being rescinded, kinda seals it. Complete fake news. Hopefully people in this thread can stop repeating it. Pure libel against children - not even against adults!

The fact that the vast majority of this thread believed, without question, that a group of 16 year old boys would openly talk about murdering minorities in a family eatery is a truly troubling reflection of the US. At some point you have to question whether it sounds believable or not.
It's totally believable if you've been paying attention to what's been going on lately. I mean, it's not like there aren't irl streamers who go around and do what you're claiming is unbelievable. And they have a huge following among these MAGA hat wearing idiots. I have zero doubt that they brought their "trolling" into real life, and suffered the consequences for it. This is compounded by one of their twitter accounts being uncovered and their open use of racial slurs found.
 

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Obviously the kid in the video would never say something offensive!

But to be honest I don't quite understand why there's any point in making a distinction between saying something racist or "just" wearing that fucking hat. It's essentially a representation of fascism, by wearing the hat you're already vocally supporting the vile and disgusting actions of the regime.
 

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I see a lot of people referencing the racist remarks reported in the OP but every article I've read has updated the story to withdraw that part due to concern about legitimacy of said statements. Might be best to update the OP with this bit of info.
 

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Their ideology is irrelevant to me. You don't get to get physical with someone simply because you cannot control your emotions. Confront them by talking, by screaming if necessary. Once anyone lays their hands or tosses something at them, they can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. They've lost the battle at that instant.



Right, I'm OK with blacks being lynched and agree with white supremacy because I don't agree with physically assaulting someone for what they say. You got me.

The dog-piling predictably commences, and I'm not going to continue. You (and others) can label me a racist, Nazi sympathizer, and white supremacist all you want simply because I don't cheer people getting physical against those who espouse disgusting ideologies. That doesn't align me with any ideology, "champ", it desires the continuance of civility in a time where it is threatened the most and needs to be striven towards. Yes, I know all the Left's responses to this, none of their arguments I agree with, nor will I ever.
You did not explain how his sensibilities were fragile. Do not make an assertion if you're just going to run when someone asks for an explanation.
 
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Whataburger employees all backed the kids and stated the attack was completely unprovoked.

That, plus the quote being rescinded, kinda seals it. Complete fake news. Hopefully people in this thread can stop repeating it. Pure libel against children - not even against adults!

The fact that the vast majority of this thread believed, without question, that a group of 16 year old boys would openly talk about murdering minorities in a family eatery is a truly troubling reflection of the US. At some point you have to question whether it sounds believable or not.
Do you live in America? Did you grow up there? I grew up in a blue state and that shit sounds more than plausible even fifteen years ago, before the nazis took over. So do I believe a group of white kids in maga hats were saying racist shit at 1am on the 4th? uhhhh.... you bet. Do I believe anything one of the kids' mother has to say about the situation? Hell no. She lets her kid walk around in a maga hat. There's like a 150% chance she is just as racist as her spawn.
 

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One of their twitter accounts was found earlier in this thread, where they use the N word frequently. I believe the witness and that they were intimidated by death threats.

It's cool to be black without being black. His usage of the n word seems more like trying to fake it and be cool more so than racist usage. It sucks that privileged white kids do it, but they do. They do it in public too. I've heard it many a time out at bars from a white person, in reference to a white person. It's sad and pathetic how much they want to be us without being us.
 
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Ha that is amazing. What a hero. I hope this kind stuff never becomes actually physical though. That's what the right is waiting for and will win them another election I'm afraid..
People didn’t stay home from voting because Li’l aryans got splashed with pop, let’s be realistic.

It’s laughable that anyone would clutch their pearls over this while this blatantly white supremacist administration works to take us back to when white people had their own bathrooms and water fountains. We have fucking concentration camps with kidnapped children ffs

I bet trump will tweet about this
 

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Right, I'm OK with blacks being lynched and agree with white supremacy because I don't agree with physically assaulting someone for what they say. You got me.
Their ideology is irrelevant to me.
If you're saying nazi ideology is irrelevant to you then yes, you are okay with white supremacy to some degree.
The dog-piling predictably commences, and I'm not going to continue.
You got quoted like 3 times lol ffs
Yes, I know all the Left's responses to this, none of their arguments I agree with, nor will I ever.
"The left"? Well what side do you consider yourself to be on then exactly?
 

Skelepuzzle

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It's cool to be black without being black. His usage of the n word seems more like trying to fake it and be cool more so than racist usage. It sucks that privileged white kids do it, but they do. They do it in public too. I've heard it many a time out at bars from a white person, in reference to a white person. It's sad and pathetic how much they want to be us without being us.
I'm simply saying that his usage of it plus him hanging out with a red hat makes the initial witness testimony more credible in my eyes.
 
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Genuine question, I notice in sexual harassment threads the slightest hints of victim blaming get an automatic ban. But in this thread, it’s pretty much has gone unpunished, even though so many are implying it’s his fault for getting assaulted because of what he’s wearing. I also noticed in the xxxtentacionxxx thread, everyone was again at liberty to say it was his own fault for getting murdered due to the type of person he was. Is victim blaming just not allowed for people who are thought to be “one of us”? Or just not allowed for sexual assault, but ok for regular assault?
Some people deserve to have drinks thrown in their faces. No one deserves to be sexually assaulted. And it's easy to sympathize with women targeted by sexually predators and difficult to sympathize with racists. You can bet I'm excited to hear your logic about why women and racists should be treated equally though.
 

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I don't have a problem with people punching an adult neonazi but assaulting a teenager because of a hat seems counterproductive.
 

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I am positively in love with this new trend of openly treating these people like shit in public.
Same. People with the temerity to walk around this diverse country with that hat on don't deserve basic civility.

Boast about tearing down society, get treated accordingly.

Genuine question, I notice in sexual harassment threads the slightest hints of victim blaming get an automatic ban. But in this thread, it’s pretty much has gone unpunished, even though so many are implying it’s his fault for getting assaulted because of what he’s wearing. I also noticed in the xxxtentacionxxx thread, everyone was again at liberty to say it was his own fault for getting murdered due to the type of person he was. Is victim blaming just not allowed for people who are thought to be “one of us”? Or just not allowed for sexual assault, but ok for regular assault?
Your mistake is conflating avowed bigots with sexual assault victims. Bigotry isn't just some neutral difference of opinion.
 

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Obviously the kid in the video would never say something offensive!

But to be honest I don't quite understand why there's any point in making a distinction between saying something racist or "just" wearing that fucking hat. It's essentially a representation of fascism, by wearing the hat you're already vocally supporting the vile and disgusting actions of the regime.
Yep. They're the kind of people who sits in twitch chat all day spamming trihard7 and other racist shit.
 

prag16

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perhaps not, but it is absolutely fair to say that anyone who voted for trump is either racist or willing to tolerate racism
Maybe in your warped reality.

This thread is an absolute dumpster fire. Advocating violence, broad generalizations about millions of strangers, and was the 'witness' ever corroborated? Everyone else at the scene seemed to be saying it was unprovoked?

Comparing MAGA hats to swastikas is disgusting, and just serves to downplay the swastika. At least for sane people.
 

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I see a lot of people referencing the racist remarks reported in the OP but every article I've read has updated the story to withdraw that part due to concern about legitimacy of said statements. Might be best to update the OP with this bit of info.
Booo, why update the OP with facts on the ground when an online lynch mob is more cathartic? ;)

But the fact is no one here has a clue about what really went down, except:

- what’s in the video posted. dude’s semi-assaulted while wearing a MAGA hat
- his friend’s twitter account and his use of the n-word (may or may not be slang/correlation)
- and more interestingly, a pending police report which is examining the security footage.

The rest is 12 pages of:

*semantic argument 1 about meaning of hat
*semantic argument 2 about meaning of hat
*semantic disagreement about hat

and now!

*guy summarizing political disagreement about hats
 

Kayla

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Im surprised some of you guys haven't said "THIS IS HOW WE GET TRUMP FOR A SECOND TERM!!"
 

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There are still people insisting this is de facto violence. If this ever went to trial (doubtful), the judge would scoff at the mere thought.

It's almost as if there is an ulterior motive/agenda in play.
 

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Genuine question, I notice in sexual harassment threads the slightest hints of victim blaming get an automatic ban. But in this thread, it’s pretty much has gone unpunished, even though so many are implying it’s his fault for getting assaulted because of what he’s wearing. I also noticed in the xxxtentacionxxx thread, everyone was again at liberty to say it was his own fault for getting murdered due to the type of person he was. Is victim blaming just not allowed for people who are thought to be “one of us”? Or just not allowed for sexual assault, but ok for regular assault?
Did you just fucking imply that victims of sexual assault are on par with racists getting a drink thrown in their face. Good lord what a terrible take.
 

Skelepuzzle

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Maybe in your warped reality.

This thread is an absolute dumpster fire. Advocating violence, broad generalizations about millions of strangers, and was the 'witness' ever corroborated? Everyone else at the scene seemed to be saying it was unprovoked?

Comparing MAGA hats to swastikas is disgusting, and just serves to downplay the swastika. At least for sane people.
Let's pretend Trump has never said anything racist in his life, which he has well before becoming president. Like wanting the central park 5 to be executed after exoneration, or accusing various natives of not actually being native american, or that they were drug dealers.

Why didn't his support plummet after the child internment camps?
 

Coyote Starrk

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Genuine question, I notice in sexual harassment threads the slightest hints of victim blaming get an automatic ban. But in this thread, it’s pretty much has gone unpunished, even though so many are implying it’s his fault for getting assaulted because of what he’s wearing. I also noticed in the xxxtentacionxxx thread, everyone was again at liberty to say it was his own fault for getting murdered due to the type of person he was. Is victim blaming just not allowed for people who are thought to be “one of us”? Or just not allowed for sexual assault, but ok for regular assault?
I can't believe you actually feel the need to ask this question like its a logical thing to ask. One is a racist asshole wearing a hat that supports racism and the other is a victim that was sexually assaulted.




Now think REALLY REALLY hard and then tell me the difference between the two in your mind and why victim blaming is okay with one and not the other.
 

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Maybe in your warped reality.

This thread is an absolute dumpster fire. Advocating violence, broad generalizations about millions of strangers, and was the 'witness' ever corroborated? Everyone else at the scene seemed to be saying it was unprovoked?

Comparing MAGA hats to swastikas is disgusting, and just serves to downplay the swastika. At least for sane people.
What points of Trump's exclusionary platform are you unclear on? Did you somehow miss the fact that his campaign was largely based on racism?

And you question people rejecting those who flaunt his motto, which is a blatant nod and wink to bigots?
 

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Maybe in your warped reality.

This thread is an absolute dumpster fire. Advocating violence, broad generalizations about millions of strangers, and was the 'witness' ever corroborated? Everyone else at the scene seemed to be saying it was unprovoked?

Comparing MAGA hats to swastikas is disgusting, and just serves to downplay the swastika. At least for sane people.
By sane people you mean White Republicans who run on a platform of bigotry, misogyny, racism, and xenophobia,

A political group that disenfranchises minorities and locks children in cages.

Okay yeah.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and supports Donald Ducking Trump then you are a racist,

Sane people realize that, it's a shame millions of White People don't.

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The fact that the vast majority of this thread believed, without question, that a group of 16 year old boys would openly talk about murdering minorities in a family eatery is a truly troubling reflection of the US. At some point you have to question whether it sounds believable or not.
This is the kind of reply you expect from an extraterrestrial still learning about human beings and haven’t read about or experienced teenagers or America’s history and present.

It’s like this is the first viral video that space alien has ever seen from earth, missing all the very recent videos of adult white Americans harassing black people of all ages for just being black.

There was just a video of a group of racist assholes hareassing black people in a restaurant and pretending to be victims when challenged not long ago

Yes, it’s all too believable that racist teens would openly “joke” about murdering black people in public. Racists teens actually murdering black people is pretty much an American tradition
 

RedMercury

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broad generalizations about millions of strangers
Racists are bad. People who support racists are bad. Trump supporters support a racist. Trump supporters support racism.

Are you okay with those generalizations or nah, and if so then why not? Please tell me where that falls apart for you.
Comparing MAGA hats to swastikas is disgusting, and just serves to downplay the swastika. At least for sane people.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.pr...-against-trump-s-immigration-policy-1.6199085
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...r-exit-strategies_us_599b03f0e4b01f6e80200036

If there are any Jewish individuals here who would like to speak to this person's assertion it would be greatly appreciated.

I think most sane people are capable of knowing swastika = nazi = bad and the only people I see complaining about it downplaying the swastika are people on the right who looking for a quick deflection.
 

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I don't have a problem with people punching an adult neonazi but assaulting a teenager because of a hat seems counterproductive.
At 16, you're old enough to know.
Even in America's messed up education systen, were taught about the evils of Nazi facism from a much younger age.
If you can proudly walk around with hate symbols on your head, drinks in your face should honestly happen regularly.
 
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Maybe in your warped reality.

This thread is an absolute dumpster fire. Advocating violence, broad generalizations about millions of strangers, and was the 'witness' ever corroborated? Everyone else at the scene seemed to be saying it was unprovoked?

Comparing MAGA hats to swastikas is disgusting, and just serves to downplay the swastika. At least for sane people.
Quote the people who advocated violence, please
 

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Let's pretend Trump has never said anything racist in his life, which he has well before becoming president. Like wanting the central park 5 to be executed after exoneration, or accusing various natives of not actually being native american, or that they were drug dealers.

Why didn't his support plummet after the child internment camps?
People can dislike and slate Trump for being an incompetent, racist jackass while still recognizing that the systomatic genocide of 6 million men, women and children in gas chambers is orders of magnitude worse.

It’s dangerous to conflate these degrees of bad, which is why people are pushing back. Not because everyone who does so is a secret Nazi.
 

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Maybe in your warped reality.

This thread is an absolute dumpster fire. Advocating violence, broad generalizations about millions of strangers, and was the 'witness' ever corroborated? Everyone else at the scene seemed to be saying it was unprovoked?

Comparing MAGA hats to swastikas is disgusting, and just serves to downplay the swastika. At least for sane people.
ok they're not swastikas they are KKK white hoodies. You can stop being disgusted now, and embrace sanity.
 

jviggy43

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Maybe in your warped reality.

This thread is an absolute dumpster fire. Advocating violence, broad generalizations about millions of strangers, and was the 'witness' ever corroborated? Everyone else at the scene seemed to be saying it was unprovoked?

Comparing MAGA hats to swastikas is disgusting, and just serves to downplay the swastika. At least for sane people.
There is nothing broad or generalizing about calling people who empowered and gave rise to our current racist regime as anything but racists. Pretending maga isn't a modern day swatstika is shortsighted and coming from a place of prilvelege on your end.
 
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Looking through this thread the goal post movement has been absurd. I was on board with what happend IF that kid had said that shit. But as time went on that looked to be less and less credible and then the stance was ANYONE who dare wear one of those corny hats get this treatment. That's where I bounce. Absolutely ludicrous. Can't demonize millions that frivolously.
 

rjinaz

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Looking through this thread the goal post movement has been absurd. I was on board with what happend IF that kid had said that shit. But as time went on that looked to be less and less credible and then the stance was ANYONE who dare wear one of those corny hats get this treatment. That's where I bounce. Absolutely ludicrous. Can't demonize millions that frivolously.
Serious question. Millions voted for Trump. You don't demonize them for voting a racist into office? And worse, STILL supporting him despite all that we know now?
 

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By sane people you mean White Republicans who run on a platform of bigotry, misogyny, racism, and xenophobia,

A political group that disenfranchises minorities and locks children in cages.

Okay yeah.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and supports Donald Ducking Trump then you are a racist,

Sane people realize that, it's a shame millions of White People don't.
Some of you guys should really get some air. I'd say the warped perspectives seen here are the type of thing that will get Trump reelected. But luckily for real Democrats, the types of viewpoints which are majority (at least among the vocal) here are still niche on the grander scale and probably won't move the needle much.
 

rjinaz

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Some of you guys should really get some air. I'd say the warped perspectives seen here are the type of thing that will get Trump reelected. But luckily for real Democrats, the types of viewpoints which are majority (at least among the vocal) here are still niche on the grander scale and probably won't move the needle much.
Whew got some air. Glad to know my deep breath is what just stopped Trump from being reelected! Close call.
Prag16 dropping the vale. Weird topic to do it in, but alright.
 

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Looking through this thread the goal post movement has been absurd. I was on board with what happend IF that kid had said that shit. But as time went on that looked to be less and less credible and then the stance was ANYONE who dare wear one of those corny hats get this treatment. That's where I bounce. Absolutely ludicrous. Can't demonize millions that frivolously.
Blacks, latinos, immigrants, natives, lgbtq, women, have ALL been demonized FOR THE LAST 200+ YEARS. It's the fucking norm.
 

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Some of you guys should really get some air. I'd say the warped perspectives seen here are the type of thing that will get Trump reelected. But luckily for real Democrats, the types of viewpoints which are majority (at least among the vocal) here are still niche on the grander scale and probably won't move the needle much.
Real Democrats, LOL.

Your posts are a joke. You come in here making asinine remarks and refuse to actually respond to any of the responses you get.

Your follow ups are just as empty as your initial digs.

Looking through this thread the goal post movement has been absurd. I was on board with what happend IF that kid had said that shit. But as time went on that looked to be less and less credible and then the stance was ANYONE who dare wear one of those corny hats get this treatment. That's where I bounce. Absolutely ludicrous. Can't demonize millions that frivolously.
But the entire Republican party is allowed to demonize minorities, women, LGBTQ ect... Okay gotcha!
 

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How could anyone ever mistake the two.
I've seen people use this photo quite a bit but the context is completely off. The guy's a known YouTube prankster and did that at a Trump rally to troll. In the video the people at the rally actually did not take kindly to his *ahem* decor.
 

Skelepuzzle

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People can dislike and slate Trump for being an incompetent, racist jackass while still recognizing that the systomatic genocide of 6 million men, women and children in gas chambers is orders of magnitude worse.

It’s dangerous to conflate these degrees of bad, which is why people are pushing back. Not because everyone who does so is a secret Nazi.

Take that up with a couple of holocaust survivors:

http://www.newsweek.com/im-holocaust-survivor-trumps-america-feels-germany-nazis-took-over-876965
Stephen B. Jacobs has a warning from the past for America today: It’s happening again.

At 79 years old he is among the youngest of the living Holocaust survivors and was born six years after Adolf Hitler came to power in Germany. But Jacobs can remember life in the Nazi concentration camp at Buchenwald; what the Nazis did to him, his family, his friends.

He worries about what’s happening right now in America, where he has lived and prospered since arriving a couple of years after Buchenwald’s liberation on April 11, 1945.

https://amp.theguardian.com/comment...ion-children-parents-families-us-border-trump

What is happening in our own backyard today is as evil and criminal as what happened to me and my siblings as children in Nazi Europe. It needs to be stopped immediately.
 
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