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GaimeGuy

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Oct 25, 2017
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The following resolution just passed the House, 240-187. Only four Republicans voted for the resolution.

RESOLUTION Condemning President Trump's racist comments directed at Members of Congress.

Whereas the Founders conceived America as a haven of refuge for people fleeing from religious and political persecution, and Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, and James Madison all emphasized that the Nation gained as it attracted new people in search of freedom and livelihood for their families;

Whereas the Declaration of Independence defined America as a covenant based on equality, the unalienable Rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and government by the consent of the people;

Whereas Benjamin Franklin said at the Constitutional convention, ''When foreigners after looking about for some other Country in which they can obtain more happiness, give a preference to ours, it is a proof of attachment which ought to excite our confidence and affection'';

Whereas President Franklin D. Roosevelt said, ''Remember, remember always, that all of us, and you and I especially, are descended from immigrants and revolutionists'';

Whereas immigration of people from all over the Earth has defined every stage of American history and propelled our social, economic, political, scientific, cultural, artistic and technological progress as a people, and all Americans, except for the descendants of Native people and enslaved African-Americans, are immigrants or descendants of immigrants;

Whereas the commitment to immigration and asylum has been not a partisan cause but a powerful national value that has infused the work of many Presidents;

Whereas American patriotism is defined not by race or ethnicity but by devotion to the Constitutional ideals of equality, liberty, inclusion, and democracy and by service to our communities and struggle for the common good;

Whereas President John F. Kennedy, whose family came to the United States from Ireland, stated in his 1958 book ''A Nation of Immigrants'' that ''The contribution of immigrants can be seen in every aspect of our national life. We see it in religion, in politics, in business, in the arts, in education, even in athletics and entertainment. There is no part of our nation that has not been touched by our immigrant background. Everywhere immigrants have enriched and strengthened the fabric of American life.'';

Whereas President Ronald Reagan in his last speech as President conveyed ''An observation about a country which I love'';

Whereas as President Reagan observed, the torch of Lady Liberty symbolizes our freedom and represents our heritage, the compact with our parents, our grandparents, and our ancestors, and it is the Statue of Liberty and its values that give us our great and special place in the world;

Whereas other countries may seek to compete with us, but in one vital area, as ''a beacon of freedom and opportunity that draws the people of the world, no country on Earth comes close'';

Whereas it is the great life force of ''each generation of new Americans that guarantees that America's triumph shall continue unsurpassed'' through the 21st century and beyond and is part of the ''magical, intoxicating power of America'';

Whereas this is ''one of the most important sources of America's greatness: we lead the world because, unique among nations, we draw our people -- our strength -- from every country and every corner of the world, and by doing so we continuously renew and enrich our nation'';

Whereas ''thanks to each wave of new arrivals to this land of opportunity, we're a nation forever young, forever bursting with energy and new ideas, and always on the cutting edge'', always leading the world to the next frontier;

Whereas this openness is vital to our future as a Nation, and ''if we ever closed the door to new Americans, our leadership in the world would soon be lost''; and

Whereas President Donald Trump's racist comments have legitimized fear and hatred of new Americans and people of color:

Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

(1) believes that immigrants and their descendants have made America stronger, and that those who take the oath of citizenship are every bit as American as those whose families have lived in the United States for many generations;

(2) is committed to keeping America open to those lawfully seeking refuge and asylum from violence and oppression, and those who are willing to work hard to live the American Dream, no matter their race, ethnicity, faith, or country of origin; and

(3) strongly condemns President Donald Trump's racist comments that have legitimized and increased fear and hatred of new Americans and people of color by saying that our fellow Americans who are immigrants, and those who may look to the President like immigrants, should ''go back'' to other countries, by referring to immigrants and asylum seekers as ''invaders,'' and by saying that Members of Congress who are immigrants (or those of our colleagues who are wrongly assumed to be immigrants) do not belong in Congress or in the United States of America.

Again, among GOP reps who voted, the vote split 4-187.

So we have the entire GOP almost unanimously saying, on the record,, that immigrants can never be American, that they make America weaker, that your race, ethnicity, faith, and country of origin are important factors in determinig if you are welcome here, that immigrants do not belong in Congress or in the United States of America.
 
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Nov 23, 2017
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I agree OP but I don't know if it's useful or right (or for that matter anything Jewish people would agree with ) to say "the holocaust is here." Or tinfoil hat stuff.
 

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I know people aren't satisfied with what she's done so far, and I get that. But it'll at least be interesting to see Republicans running for re-election get called on voting against this. Will this bill then head to the Senate? I know the turtle will never put it up for a vote, but it'd be nice to see Senate Republicans get the same treatment on record
 

DarthWoo

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Oct 27, 2017
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To them, it's no biggie, as they'll just do their best to make sure their gerrymandered districts stay that way and dilute the enfranchisement of anyone in them who would actually care.
 

Buzzman

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Oct 25, 2017
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Soon enough racist will be a meaningless pejorative for Republicans, just like liberal or socialist/commie for most democrats.
They'll embrace it.
 

kitress

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Oct 27, 2017
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Republicans operate like a mafia. You are either with the family or you are against the family. No morals. No reasons.
 

0VERBYTE

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Nov 1, 2017
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It really isnt no surprise tho is it? The House republicans are all white men. So who is really shocked by this??
 

Kusagari

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Oct 25, 2017
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A lot of them are hiding behind, "I would have voted for it if it didn't actually say the word racist."
 
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GaimeGuy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well I apologize then. I 100% support Jewish people, let's get that straight. I just think saying there are possibly "secret exterminations" happening stokes a lot of fear that may be unfounded.
Bruh, I was in no way suggesting you hate Jews. But you openly pondered if any Jews would agree with such alarmist rhetoric. Let me assure you, the vast majority of us do. I'm scared. My parents are scared. My 95 year old grandma, who died in March, was scared. I hear about it at holiday gatherings, online, and during phone calls.

Just today, 1000 Jewish protestors blocked the entrances and exits to the ICE HQ in DC. No one can get in or out. I think it's still going on.
 

Rowsdower

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Oct 27, 2017
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Rep. Will Hurd TX-23
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick PA-01
Rep. Fred Upton MI-06
Rep. Susan Brooks IN-05

These are the only four Republicans who did the right thing and voted for the resolution.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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They'll hold their noses and look the other way on trump's racism because they "represent a district where trump is very popular." And so they won't do the right thing. Even if they know what they are doing is wrong. Because they only care about their jobs as being absolutely worthless leeches on society.

I hope they lose hard in 2020.
 

Jag

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Oct 26, 2017
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I agree OP but I don't know if it's useful or right (or for that matter anything Jewish people would agree with ) to say "the holocaust is here." Or tinfoil hat stuff.

We are doing what we can against ICE. Protesting at ICE centers by the thousands.

For awhile they shut down every entrance to the ICE offices in DC today.

In recent weeks, a new movement called Never Again Action has organized protests at ICE facilities around the country. Jewish activists singing protest chants in Yiddish and Hebrew have been arrested by the dozen. They've invoked the language of the Holocaust to shame the Trump administration's policies towards undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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this seems... rose tinted at best. Same take people were spewing in 2016 about how Trump was going to tank his own campaign.

Yup. This means nothing.

People said the exact same thing about the bs resolution they wrote up against Omar that was changed after public blowback to being against all forms of hate speech. That it was Pelosi showing her political prowess because it showed how awful Republicans are and it will help in the 2020 election.

But guess what? Everyone forgot or didn't care. Same thing will happen here.
 

Minx

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Oct 26, 2017
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The holocaust is here is certainly a take I haven't heard yet. You realize 6 millions Jews died right? I understand you are emotional about all this but we still have to remain rational. No one will take you seriously otherwise.
 

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I agree OP but I don't know if it's useful or right (or for that matter anything Jewish people would agree with ) to say "the holocaust is here." Or tinfoil hat stuff.

As a Jewish person, I don't take offense to what he said. We aren't Nazi Germany, but Swatstikas are appearing graffitied in the streets of NY, our president is racist, and we have internment camps where we separate families with horrible and living conditions.

These aren't acceptable things. And the lack of condemnation from one party of our government is unacceptable.

Is it a holocaust? No. But is it repeating some mistakes from back then? Yes.
 
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GaimeGuy

GaimeGuy

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Oct 25, 2017
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The holocaust is here is certainly a take I haven't heard yet. You realize 6 millions Jews died right? I understand you are emotional about all this but we still have to remain rational. No one will take you seriously otherwise.
You realize that Dachau opened in 1933 and the Final Solution (the mass exterminations) didn't start until 1941, right?

Don't patronize me.
 

NervousXtian

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nah, this means nothing to anyone. Trump has like 90+ support from the GOP. They don't give a fuck about his tweets or any of this. This is just all a distraction. We've spent 4 years now saying what a piece of shit Trump is. Those that think he's a piece of shit already did think that. Those that don't, this won't change anything.

Democrats need to talk about how they can use this "great economy" to make things better for people. Focus on health care, jobs, college tuition, and rebuilding the middle-class.

What we are doing to asylum seekers is abhorrent, and what Trump said about our congresswomen is abhorrent. Problem is, politically.. it doesn't even move the needle in any direction.
 

SpaceCrystal

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Apr 1, 2019
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They'll hold their noses and look the other way on trump's racism because they "represent a district where trump is very popular." And so they won't do the right thing. Even if they know what they are doing is wrong. Because they only care about their jobs as being absolutely worthless leeches on society.

I hope they lose hard in 2020.

Those 187 Republicans are probably on Russia's payroll, which is why they can't afford to turn against Trump or they'll risk being primaried &/or have all of their skeletons from the closet revealed to the public.