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2018-19 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: Perfectionist Horseman commits perjury, held In Contempt
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I thought they renewed it for seasons 2, 3 and 4 all at once, and they filmed seasons 3 and 4 back to back while the kids were still young. Was I imagining that?...
Era may have told you, but Era didn't tell Netflix that it's already dead
I don't recall people saying Netflix would be dead soon. I remember someone asking recently when the stock was over $300 if they should buy and I advised against it. Stock is currently $266, down 31% since July and at a 9-month low.
Monday night's ratings. CBS's "Bob Hearts Abishola" dropped 0.2 from last week, while everything else pretty much retained their ratings:
Finals from yesterday are expected around 2pm EST. I'll post those and Fridays as well.
I got you, fam
(god its weird how much she looks like young Michelle Pfeiffer)
I thought the same. maybe someone had reported fact as speculation and this is just a confirmation from netflix.
Probably referring to my comments from a while back (at least primarily). I said Netflix was past its peak and that with all of the studios launching their own streaming services with their own original content and extensive libraries (which takes away from Netflix's), eventually Netflix is going to die. I didn't say I expected it to happen soon though/in the next couple of years. Just that the competitors marked the beginning of the end for them. Which I still stand by, and the stock drop represents, because I can't see how Netflix survives purely on its originals once it comes to that.
Personally, I don't think the Duffers are some great get for Netflix. All they've proven they can do is pastiche other works and exploit 80s nostalgia. There's also the whole situation where it's very possible they stole the original idea for Stranger Things from someone else. I'd be happy to be proved wrong if they deliver something great and original in the future, I'm a pit pessimistic though given how both season 2 and 3 of Stranger Things were lacking in quality compared to the first one -- and there's still little originality to be seen in any of it.
actually i was referring to the various derp "disney + will kill netflix" OT comments in various threads, not anything in this one.
I hope that was just hyperbole. Obviously the company will be around for the foreseeable future. I expected to see stock price pressure and earnings pressure leading up to Disney+ launch at least. Even after this big drop it's still trading at 47x next years estimates which is quite high if growth is under pressure.
Monday night's ratings. CBS's "Bob Hearts Abishola" dropped 0.2 from last week, while everything else pretty much retained their ratings:
Wow, 9-1-1 is absolutely killing it. Finally a show I enjoy that I don't have to worry about (is on the bubble).
So is there going to be a 2019-2020 thread?
Cornballer are you okay? You were just beaten.
RatskyWatsky are you okay? "Claws" is ending next year.
Final ratings for FRIDAY NIGHT:
ABC's "20/20" went up by 0.1.
All of The CW's shows went down by 0.1.
Everything else stayed the same.
Final ratings for SUNDAY NIGHT:
ABC's night held steady since it was the only network not airing football at all. (Same for The CW, but who cares?)
CBS's "60 Minutes" adjusted up by 0.4. "NCIS: Los Angeles" adjusted up by 0.2.
NBC's "Sunday Night Football" dominated the night, as football always does.
Fox's "Family Guy" is finally on the chart, and we can see that it, along with the rest of Fox's Sunday night lineup, are all in line with each other (except for "The Simpsons" which performed the best). Looks like "Bless the Harts" might actually fit in after all.
Now that those two night are finally finalized, we can get to Monday's final ratings...in a few hours.
ABC's "20/20" went up by 0.1.
All of The CW's shows went down by 0.1.
Everything else stayed the same.
Final ratings for SUNDAY NIGHT:
ABC's night held steady since it was the only network not airing football at all. (Same for The CW, but who cares?)
CBS's "60 Minutes" adjusted up by 0.4. "NCIS: Los Angeles" adjusted up by 0.2.
NBC's "Sunday Night Football" dominated the night, as football always does.
Fox's "Family Guy" is finally on the chart, and we can see that it, along with the rest of Fox's Sunday night lineup, are all in line with each other (except for "The Simpsons" which performed the best). Looks like "Bless the Harts" might actually fit in after all.
Now that those two night are finally finalized, we can get to Monday's final ratings...in a few hours.
I was just over in the Disney + Netherlands thread and I'm seeing exactly what I expected. The service is great for supplemental use but until they start adding a lot of original content it's not going to compete with Netflix. You can only watch 90's X-Men or the Simpsons so many times to justify the cost. Once more movies and OG content hits in the next couple of years I suspect the cost perception will balance out a little but it's never going to directly compete with Netflix and all the takes thinking it will are wrong
But that leads me into what I suspect will be Netflix's more direct competition: Hulu. Do we have any idea when they're going to start adding the Fox content or Disney produced adult fare? I've seen a million articles on plus but only ever peeps about what's going to happen with Hulu
But that leads me into what I suspect will be Netflix's more direct competition: Hulu. Do we have any idea when they're going to start adding the Fox content or Disney produced adult fare? I've seen a million articles on plus but only ever peeps about what's going to happen with Hulu
I think Netflix's most direct/dangerous competitor is actually HBO Max. They have a huge film and television library and are going for the same very wide scattershot of types of shows they're doing, like Netflix, but at a (likely) general higher quality standard and budget.
I agree Disney+ is more like a side-competitor rather than a direct one. You either like their brand stuff (Marvel, Star Wars, Pixar, Disney proper) or don't. And most of their original content is going to be falling within that brand. The fact that it's quite a bit cheaper though could mean people subbing to it along with one of the other competitors could displace them from having Netflix. At least initially I expect people who get Disney+ will still maintain their Netflix account also.
Hulu is a bit more of an uncertainty in all regards because I don't think even Disney has decided exactly what they want to do with it. In the near term it's obviously going to get the more "adult" FOX library, but in terms of original content they've never been especially strong, and that doesn't seem to be changing any time super soon.
Excited about "Kevin Can Fuck Himself". It seems like something pretty unique.
There may be a lot of families who are currently with Netflix who'll be signing up for Disney+ for the kids, then saving money by choosing to do without Netflix, or being more selective like 1 month here and there instead of being active all year.
Sure, I think that some people will potentially do that. I don't think anyone regularly wanting a ton of new original content is going to be subbing solely to Disney+ though, because they just wouldn't be getting it.
Also, I think the number of people who actively do 1 month subs and cancel and sort of "cycle" their services is a pretty small and extremely active viewing group. Most people just like to do the annual sub and forget about it.
Wow! Congrats to NBC!
Judging from the 18-49 demo, I wasn't sure if it was going to be NBC or Fox who would win premiere week. Having live TV events like "The Voice," "The Masked Singer," and football multiple times a week certainly helped them both out.
For the overall viewership though, I thought it would've been CBS again as the winner. So I'm legitimately surprised that NBC won that too.
Fuck yes, glad they got another another season. Four seasons is fine for a show like this.
Even though Claws is ending, I'm glad it's getting another season. I think 4 is enough, and at least they have the time to plan out a nice ending hopefully.
Yeah families are going to be huge for Disney and honestly a lot of those folks are too busy to juggle accounts. They just want a service that has a bunch of cartoons.
*clears space on DVR*
I remember when I used to get excited about all the new TV shows. Now why bother?
It's another reason why people are fleeing networks. Streaming services essentially guarantee a second season at least, unless there's literally 5 people watching. You just can't get invested in a show that might not even finish its first run.
I agree that Max is probably their biggest existential threat at this point. Although I do wish Disney would get on the ball with Hulu. They already have a huge catalog of older TV and movies that I would kill to see on Hulu right now and that I'm sure are too mature to end up on plus. It's just sitting there waiting to be capitalized on and they're not doing a thing
publicly that is. I'm sure they're working behind the scenes but it's taking far too long. They had plus up and running this quick there's no reason not to dump the fox back catalogue on to Hulu and reap the profits
Netflix's "problem" going forward will be competing with the backlogs of these services as more and more content gets pulled by people doing their own services. They just got Seinfeld for five years, but probably just lost Friends and The Office forever.
They have their original content, but the other services will only improve in that area and I'm not sure it's as big a draw as binging something like Friends for the average sub.
They have their original content, but the other services will only improve in that area and I'm not sure it's as big a draw as binging something like Friends for the average sub.
Final ratings for Monday night:
ABC's "Dancing with the Stars" and "The Good Doctor" adjusted down 0.1.
NBC's "The Voice" and "Bluff City Law" adjusted down 0.1.
Everything else remained the same.
ABC's "Dancing with the Stars" and "The Good Doctor" adjusted down 0.1.
NBC's "The Voice" and "Bluff City Law" adjusted down 0.1.
Everything else remained the same.
Shit couldn't even pull viewers as a summer soap with nothing else on. Nothing of value was lost.
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