2018-19 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: Syfy banishes show to the Phantom Zone

mrmoose

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I said it in the other thread, but I fail to see how SyFy is the enemy here. For Deadly Class, they didn't compromise in the adaptation of the show (though they did make changes) and it was filled with sex, drugs, and a ton of violence. They gave it a lot of promotion, they did interviews and snippets with the actors, and it didn't get the ratings they wanted for the cost of the show. I'm not sure what else you could ask for? If you skip a show on SyFy because you don't want to get invested in case they cancel it, well, that's kind of not how tv works.
 

Zoe

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I don't think people are really considering the extreme content within the shows. Not even AMC would have aired Deadly Class or Happy! as they were. The only other basic cable channel that might have would have been FX.
 

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I don't think people are really considering the extreme content within the shows. Not even AMC would have aired Deadly Class or Happy! as they were. The only other basic cable channel that might have would have been FX.
Deadly Class had some violence, sure, but nothing beyond The Walking Dead. The other content wasn't a big deal. Seemed kinda censored, though I could be misremembering.
 
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I still haven't forgiven Syfy for the whole Dark Matter situation. Glad I didn't invest in Deadly Class.
I tried to forgive Syfy for how good Dark Matter was. Then they betrayed me again. Never again. I thought Deadly Class looked awesome and I'd have watched it religiously on any other network. At some point, you gotta wonder if they've burned all their fans and that's why they need to cancel everything.
 
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We have the first big sale for the 2019-2020 broadcast development season. NBC has given a production commitment to Langdon, a drama based on Dan Brown’s thriller novel The Lost Symbol, from Daniel Cerone (Motive, Constantine), Imagine Television Studios, the TV arm of Ron Howard and Brian Grazer’s Imagine Entertainment, CBS TV Studios and Universal Television.

Written and executive produced by Cerone, Langdon follows the early adventures of famed Harvard symbologist Robert Langdon, who finds himself pulled into a series of deadly puzzles when his mentor is kidnapped. The CIA forces him onto a task force where he uncovers a chilling conspiracy.
 

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Reviews starting to trickle in for Euphoria. Goodman thought it was great over at THR. Indiewire's review is less positive.
This sounds awful. Like seasons 3 & 4 of Skins but somehow even more over the top and miserable.

IndieWire said:
“Euphoria’s” unflinching depiction of heavy, gut-churning adolescent events adds up to an exhausting, exasperating experience. For all his savvy transitions, propulsive pacing, and dynamic visual stylings, Levinson can’t escape the collective darkness at the center of each individual story. Separate, they’re distressing. Together, they’re horrifying.

One character is introduced as a young child and developed via montage to explain how they ended up the teen they are today. Most of these stories range from jarring to appalling, whether past or present, and they do add up.

“Euphoria” hasn’t heard a sad story it can’t make worse. There are scenes you’ll wish you never saw, let alone reflect on.
Even the more positive review from Tim Goodman makes the show sound like misery porn (albeit "Important" misery porn ala The Handmaid's Tale). It doesn't help that all the reviews so far mention a dearth of humor, which is necessary to counterbalance any drama (but esp. the extreme melodramatic kind).
 

dead souls

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Lol, seems like most of the good stuff on HBO will air on Monday nights. At least Big Little Lies will be good even if Euphoria is a self-important slog.
 

Naijaboy

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So the fallout over all the revelations revealed in grown-ish went about as expect. By which I mean it was miserable for all involved.
 

vypek

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So the fallout over all the revelations revealed in grown-ish went about as expect. By which I mean it was miserable for all involved.
Yeah. I was worried for a second that they'd go for a situation where everything is nice and neat by the end of the episode. Also I feel like this was advertised as season 3 earlier this year but it looks like it's just part 2 of season 2 according to my DVR schedule
 

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For some reason Deadline decided to spoil the major event from the newest issue of The Walking Dead comic in a headline, which is obnoxious, not to mention odd considering they don't usually (ever) cover comic news unless it relates to a TV/Film adaptation...
 
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Pirates of the Caribbean star Mackenzie Crook is writing, directing and starring in an adaptation of classic British scarecrow story Worzel Gummidge.

Crook, who made his name in the BBC comedy The Office and created The Detectorists, is adapting Barbara Euphan Todd into two-hour long films. He will star as Gummidge, a scarecrow that can come to life.
I get why Deadline leads with POTC, but like Detectorists (no "The" Deadline...) is just an incredible bit of TV and it's the reason I'm quite excited for this.
The first film, The Scarecrow Of Scatterbrook, sees two young strangers, Susan and John, arrive in the village of Scatterbrook, where they encounter Gummidge. Their world is sent spinning into confusion when they realise Gummidge comes to life. The only person more shocked is Worzel, when he discovers that the children are not in fact fellow scarecrows but humans.

The second film, The Green Man, welcomes another mysterious arrival to Scatterbrook. The Green Man is the creator of scarecrows and keeper of scarecrow lore. He isn’t at all happy that Worzel is consorting with humans.

Flightplan writer Peter A. Dowling has penned a six-part submarine drama for ITV from His Dark Materials producer Bad Wolf and Entertainment One.

Tenacity, which is inspired by the eponymous J.S. Law novel, follows disgraced military detective Danielle ‘Dan’ Lewis, who is sent to investigate a case when a dead submariner is discovered aboard the British nuclear submarine Tenacity. But when the case turns to murder, it puts her in conflict with Tenacity’s crew, her Navy superiors, and into the crosshairs of an assassin who has infiltrated her nuclear base with an agenda that will not only destroy national security but kill Dan and everyone she loves.
 

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This sounds awful. Like seasons 3 & 4 of Skins but somehow even more over the top and miserable.

Even the more positive review from Tim Goodman makes the show sound like misery porn (albeit "Important" misery porn ala The Handmaid's Tale). It doesn't help that all the reviews so far mention a dearth of humor, which is necessary to counterbalance any drama (but esp. the extreme melodramatic kind).
It could be awful, but look at something like The Leftovers, which could definitely be described as Misery porn, for at least the first season. I'm interested still anyway.
 

Fuzzy

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I get why Deadline leads with POTC, but like Detectorists (no "The" Deadline...) is just an incredible bit of TV and it's the reason I'm quite excited for this.
My oldest brother has tried to convince me to watch Detectorists for the last few years but I've ignored him because he has pretty bad taste in shows. Was I wrong to do that?
 
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My oldest brother has tried to convince me to watch Detectorists for the last few years but I've ignored him because he has pretty bad taste in shows. Was I wrong to do that?
Very.





It's low-key (... ok; very low-key) one of the best shows that has come out of the UK over the last five years. The premise is good, but it's the execution that is just brilliant. It's just this very down to earth (sorrynosorry), contemplative comedy that feels like a breath of fresh air in just how low the stakes are. And it has Toby Jones, that's always a big plus.
 

dead souls

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Lol at Swamp Thing, though give the last minute episode order cut not a surprise at all.

DC Universe just doesn't seem sustainable to me at all.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Very.





It's low-key (... ok; very low-key) one of the best shows that has come out of the UK over the last five years. The premise is good, but it's the execution that is just brilliant. It's just this very down to earth (sorrynosorry), contemplative comedy that feels like a breath of fresh air in just how low the stakes are. And it has Toby Jones, that's always a big plus.
All of this is accurate. The stakes are super low but to the characters they’re super high and it’s just handled extremely well. I don’t think I’ve seen Season 3 yet but 1 and 2 were great.
 

Fuzzy

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Fucking hell, now I'll have to watch it then listen to his "I told you so". What's worse is the next time he recommends a show he'll go on and on how I didn't listen to him last time and then that new show will turn out to be garbage like everything else he tells me about. lol
 

Rvaan

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Fucking hell, now I'll have to watch it then listen to his "I told you so". What's worse is the next time he recommends a show he'll go on and on how I didn't listen to him last time and then that new show will turn out to be garbage like everything else he tells me about. lol
You could just not watch it out of pettiness.
 

tucah

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Swamp Thing being cancelled already makes me nostalgic for the days of quick broadcast cancellations.
 

Captjohnboyd

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This sounds awful. Like seasons 3 & 4 of Skins but somehow even more over the top and miserable.



Even the more positive review from Tim Goodman makes the show sound like misery porn (albeit "Important" misery porn ala The Handmaid's Tale). It doesn't help that all the reviews so far mention a dearth of humor, which is necessary to counterbalance any drama (but esp. the extreme melodramatic kind).
It could be awful, but look at something like The Leftovers, which could definitely be described as Misery porn, for at least the first season. I'm interested still anyway.
I was going to post about leftovers as well. I recall a number of reviews saying exactly that sort of stuff. Oppressive, too bleak, not enough humor, etc etc

I'm going to give it a shot because the subject matter appeals to me and I'm not worried about a little despair lol. If it ends up being too bleak that's fine but leftovers is an all time great for me so the template is there
 
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The AT&T-owned media company is looking at launching the still-unnamed WarnerMedia subscription VOD service at a price point of $16-$17 and is likely to bundle together HBO and Cinemax along with Warner Bros. TV shows and movies, according to a Wall Street Journal report.
AT&T has said the WarrnerMedia’s direct-to-consumer SVOD service will debut in the U.S. in a beta form in the fourth quarter of 2019, with a full launch in Q1 2020. It hasn’t announced pricing. The initial plan was to launch with three tiers — an entry-level movie-focused package; a service with original programming and movies; and one that provided the content in the first two plus a library of WarnerMedia and licensed content — but that’s been scrapped in favor of a single plan, per the Journal.
Finally we're getting some (potential) details. And it also seems like the reason why the initial announcement about tiers and the like was confusing was that they actually hadn't worked it out yet.
edit: they added some more potential details in that Variety article:

According to the Journal report, WarnerMedia is mulling the introduction of a cheaper, ad-supported version of service later in 2020, similar to Hulu’s entry-level SVOD offering.
 
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$16 for HBO, Cinemax, potentially DC Universe, potentially Criterion, et al. is compelling.
Criterion is its own thing now. Filmstruck was via TCM, but from the sound of things it will "only" be films from the Warner library (and who knows how much of that they will let you stream).

But HBO is $15, and like Cinemax is objectively worth a buck or two a month... when ever they decide to air an original series. So the maths checks out.
 

Rvaan

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Criterion is its own thing now. Filmstruck was via TCM, but from the sound of things it will "only" be films from the Warner library (and who knows how much of that they will let you stream).

But HBO is $15, and like Cinemax is objectively worth a buck or two a month... when ever they decide to air an original series. So the maths checks out.
Plus all the Looney Tunes I can watch!
 

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$16 for HBO, Cinemax, potentially DC Universe, potentially Criterion, et al. is compelling.
When you consider that this will likely have the Cartoon Network (Boomerang too?) and Adult Swim back catalogues folded into it as well you get a really powerful collection of brands.

When you compare it to Disney+ or even Apple's service you get a sense that WarnerMedia's platform will be a more complete offering aimed at the whole family a'la Netflix.
 

Rvaan

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When you consider that this will likely have the Cartoon Network (Boomerang too?) and Adult Swim back catalogues folded into it as well you get a really powerful collection of brands.

When you compare it to Disney+ or even Apple's service you get a sense that WarnerMedia's platform will be a more complete offering aimed at the whole family a'la Netflix.
It's basically what Disney wants to do with Hulu, Disney+, and ESPN without making seperate bundles like Disney plans to.
 

Ross62

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Another Warner Media streaming service original:

Ansel Elgort to Star in Drama Series ‘Tokyo Vice’ at WarnerMedia Streaming Service

WarnerMedia’s streaming service has given a straight-to-series order to the drama “Tokyo Vice” starring Ansel Elgort, Variety has learned.

The series is based on based on Jake Adelstein’s non-fiction book of the same name, which is a first-hand account of the Tokyo Metropolitan Police beat. Elgort will star as Jake Adelstein, an American journalist who embeds himself into the Tokyo Vice police squad to reveal corruption. The series will chronicle Jake’s daily descent into the neon soaked underbelly of Tokyo, where nothing, and no one is truly what or who they seem
The series has received a 10-episode order. J.T. Rogers will write the adaptation with Destin Daniel Cretton directing. John Lesher, Emily Gerson Saines, and Elgort will serve as executive producers. Endeavor Content will produce.

The role will mark the first television role of Elgort’s career. He is known for starring in the films “Baby Driver,” “The Fault in Our Stars,” and the “Divergent” franchise. He will also star in the upcoming remake of “West Side Story.”

Elgort is repped by CAA, Brookside Artist Management, and Morris Yorn.

News of the series order comes as WarnerMedia increases efforts to build out original programming for its streaming service. “Tokyo Vice” is one of the few projects to be ordered to series thus far, along with the romantic comedy anthology “Love Life”starring and executive produced by Anna Kendrick with Paul Feig also executive producing. As Variety exclusively reported on Wednesday, Elizabeth Banks is currently developing a series version of the podcast “Over My Dead Body” for the service, while a “Gremlins” animated series is also in the works.
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