I completely understand why, but I thought that it was too long.
As others said elsewhere, some of the seasons (2-4 imo) were two or three episodes too long.
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2018-19 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: Perfectionist Horseman commits perjury, held In Contempt
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I completely understand why, but I thought that it was too long.
As others said elsewhere, some of the seasons (2-4 imo) were two or three episodes too long.
1>2>3>4
Yeah
The last three felt drawn out though, to make that length. I didn't feel that about the first, myself.
I think the last one felt long, only because it never really went anywhere. S3 (the meat season) just got super weird which was interesting.
S1 and 2 were the best for sure.
Agreed, though S3 was a little too weird and b-movie esque for me.
I'm obsessed! Low-key trying to plan a trip to Greece with a friend, just so we can go to the Beach Club.
Mike, Jonitta, and Sara <3
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YASSSSSS!!!! I went there as a kid and I loved it! Same - low-key trying to plan a trip back to Greece and visit Mykonos and dem clubs
Lots more casting news and additional info on the TNT/Ridley Scott project here.
Production is currently ramping up in South Africa.
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It's the shitty War of the Worlds show I read a while back. Real garbage and it boggles my mind why they're even doing it considering other War of the Worlds series are also happening.
I wonder if it's still somehow rated G as well. Was there any development on Apple's rumored "nothing even slightly controversial in shows" stance?
I would say it's more PG than G. Maybe PG-13 depending on how they depict a specific scene. I also think there will definitely be a few things in there that are "controversial" if nothing changes from the scripts. But frankly, it's just not a good project in any sense. My immediate reaction is you wouldn't even know this was War of the Worlds if it wasn't the title... after two episodes (and probably many more). It's very slow burn and character focused, but the characters are all uninteresting and cliched things we've seen a million times before.
I really hate that little kid on Manifest, wish the show didn't run most of its main storyline through him. His dad is not a great actor either. Show is running out of steam.
Deadline: Netflix's 'Bird Box' Viewed By 80 Million Households
Some TV info sans context:
It's unclear if the numbers for "You" are US-only or global, how long people actually spent watching it, etc...
Also, even without specifics on the Netflix numbers, they show a huge increase in interest and viewership for the show from what it was doing on Lifetime.
Some TV info sans context:
It's unclear if the numbers for "You" are US-only or global, how long people actually spent watching it, etc...
Also, even without specifics on the Netflix numbers, they show a huge increase in interest and viewership for the show from what it was doing on Lifetime.
thats good news for Sex Education then, it seems to be quite good from most people I've talked to.
Netflix numbers would be Global I imagine, and Nielsen / whatever is just US no?
Netflix numbers would be Global I imagine, and Nielsen / whatever is just US no?
I'm still not buying it. Only 4 tv episodes in history have ever been watched by more than 40 million people. Even factoring in international views, it still seems suspect.
Yeah but US subscribers make up roughly 40% of their base. 16 million Nielsen viewers would still be insane for either of these shows. And not to mention English language shows are a hard sell in lots of foreign countries.
I mean, back in the day tvs weren't really portable, either. Laptops, phones, etc. It makes sense.
The sampling for the TV side is definitely the trick to the number game at Netflix. It'd be interesting to see the breakdown of sampling the first episode versus a completed season, though I imagine we'll never get that number. Plus for international shows, a lot of them are coming with full English dubs now, so that could be driving their numbers up for those against subtitles (and having just started Dark, it defaulted to the dubbed version rather than subtitle, which was intriguing).
I was gonna say, those numbers are mostly meaningless because we don't know how it all breaks down or how they compare to other shows on Netflix (or Hulu, Amazon, etc).
40 million accounts watching at least 70% of the first episode is impressive though and would, at first glance anyway, put it ahead of any linear series premiere in the last several decades. (hard to compare global numbers for linear TV debuts given that most of them don't premiere globally and are mostly still locked to a specific date and time, etc)
(also, it's strange how everyone is rushing to say stuff like "Oh, so we're going to just believe their self reported numbers now?!" when you almost never see that kind of skepticism towards HBO, Showtime, etc. when they report the cumulative #'s from their streaming services)
40 million accounts watching at least 70% of the first episode is impressive though and would, at first glance anyway, put it ahead of any linear series premiere in the last several decades. (hard to compare global numbers for linear TV debuts given that most of them don't premiere globally and are mostly still locked to a specific date and time, etc)
(also, it's strange how everyone is rushing to say stuff like "Oh, so we're going to just believe their self reported numbers now?!" when you almost never see that kind of skepticism towards HBO, Showtime, etc. when they report the cumulative #'s from their streaming services)
"Hi shareholders, here's something 45% of our subscribers did. It would be more impressive, and help your investment, if we included everyone but don't want to confuse the US media so this is all you get. Soz lol."
Am baffled by the confusion over this I'm seeing all over the place.
Got about 5 minutes into You and nope'd the fuck out
Wasn't good.
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Just heard this news. I'm seriously baffled to see so many people liked it. It just came across as obnoxious "HUR HUR STEREOTYPES" humor to me.
watched the first ep of Sex Education last night and yah it was pretty good. some legitimate lol moments between some awkward stuff
I think that's because we do actually get Nielsen ratings for HBO and Showtime and none of the streaming numbers they release are particularly crazy. (And I know Nielsen puts out streaming numbers now but we have no barometer for how accurate they are which makes them hard to trust)
I can kind of buy that 40m people worldwide have checked out You.
But 40m for Sex Education seems insane. For a show that hadn't even been out a week when they released these numbers and a show that nobody I know irl has even heard of, let alone watched.
I'm seriously starting to think that Netflix is bullshitting and they actually just count the episode autoplaying if you idle on the menu as "watched". I legit only know one person who's actually seen Sex Education and out of my entire social media umbrella most people are more interested in making jokes about Bird Box than have actually seen it.
At the very least, I think there's some fuckery going on with the algorithm and they're recommending/auto playing these shows after you watch basically anything to try and inflate viewing statistics for good PR.
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Not saying that we should take these numbers as gospel, but Netflix did qualify them a bit (i.e. having watched at least 70% of one episode) and using your own social sphere as a statistical metric is really bad (i.e. self-selection bias).
And Sex Education is definitely a hit for them, even the thread here on era (which isn't their primary demographic) is reasonably popular.
Oh, of course. The personal social sphere is only a very small slice of reality, but at the same time, Netflix's numbers seem to keep going up despite the fact that the audience isn't actually getting any bigger. That's the part that's confusing.
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From their Q4 numbers (via Deadline):
They are still adding subscribes in a fairly mind blowing manner.
Right. But if they have 58.5 million subscribers, how can they say their movies got watched by 80 million households? Or is this a tacit admission that they know people are sharing their accounts to a staggering degree and they don't care?
EDIT: Worldwide numbers. I'm dumb. Carry on.
These numbers were in their earnings report. If they're found to have lied in those there are very real, very strong legal penalties.
Sure, you need to understand the qualifiers, but the numbers are for sure 100% accurate.
Big Mouth Season 2 had a joke about account sharing. They know.
The Sex Education thread has like 2 and a half pages in a week. That's pretty standard for a non-Marvel, non-ST Netflix show thread.
There's many people who like it? where lmao it felt like it went unnoticed.
i really liked the chemistry between the characters/felt real not just comedic vessels, and the writings subjectively was fresh especially during season 1 & john lithgow's arc. [ the whole legal-comedy genre feels under-explored]
btw did amazon's forever get renewed? now that show alongside showtime's kidding were 2018's gems imo.
No news on that either way. Everyone involved is pretty busy, so even if Amazon did want more, we might be waiting for a while.
All these Netflix numbers are amusing to me, just because the Netflix numbers (no matter skewed or not) are such an apple and oranges comparison to how we typically look at linear overnight ratings for network shows. Even though networks have started looking at things like Live + 3 and Live + 7 numbers, usually you mostly hear about overnight ratings. If you looked at say an episode of Big Bang Theory over the course of a month, factoring in online, DVR, on demand numbers it might look even more impressive than they usually do.
Yet, you can't discount the ease and accessibility that Netflix has with being able to watch anything when you want on a number of devices. If I missed an episode on network TV, I would have to hope they put it on their website or is available on Demand via my cable provider, where Netflix I know for sure will have what I want.
If anything you have to give it to them for constantly staying in the news with the Bird Box memes/challenge, Black Mirror - choose your own adventure, You becoming big on the platform, Marie Kondo sparking joy and anger among people, and now the Netflix gate numbers. They do a great job in staying in the conversation, which is more than you say for Hulu or Amazon Video.
Yet, you can't discount the ease and accessibility that Netflix has with being able to watch anything when you want on a number of devices. If I missed an episode on network TV, I would have to hope they put it on their website or is available on Demand via my cable provider, where Netflix I know for sure will have what I want.
If anything you have to give it to them for constantly staying in the news with the Bird Box memes/challenge, Black Mirror - choose your own adventure, You becoming big on the platform, Marie Kondo sparking joy and anger among people, and now the Netflix gate numbers. They do a great job in staying in the conversation, which is more than you say for Hulu or Amazon Video.
I too am sad. it was one of the funniest shows I can remember watching in recent times. yes there was a lot of small town jokes but there was some clever writing and puns along the way :'(
"You" is actually way better than I expected it to be.
And who knew that Penn Badgley could actually act.
And who knew that Penn Badgley could actually act.
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