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2019 Bolivian election, Evo Morales resigns after massive protest
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Evo should have stepped down and not run again. Everything good he did is at risk being undone. There was a fascist on the ballot FFS
i pray for the best in the next elections
i hope you guys elect a leftist government because the trendy in latin america is to elect a far-right/right wing full neoliberal after the center-left government, i hope this doesnt backfire
What do you reckon are the left's chances going forward in the short and long term in Bolivia? The way you describe it, it doesn't seem like this happened because of a rightward shift amongst the populace.
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Because of Morales people will hesitate to support the left again immediately, particularly if new leftist parties don't emerge. The best chance tight now against the neoliberal right wing is someone like Mesa, he is not a leftist but he is very moderate and somewhat socially progressive. This way we don't revert the few actual good things that Morales did while giving time to the left to left to regroup and bring new political agents to the table.
Hahahahaha. Morales, Maduro, Kirchner, Correa and Ortega give left-wing politics a bad name.
South American leftists don't seem interested in building lasting institutions overall, it's depressing because I want the left to succeed, but they set themselves up with these cult of personality/authoritarian mindset to fail.
but that was the case before when macri won. Now argentina is leaving a right wing government that fucked up the country.
If anything all the protesting of Morales by the leftist organizations should prevent a backlash from occurring against the rest of the left in Bolivia.
At least I hope that happens. Honestly stanning for someone to violate the Constitution (term limits) is really indefensible. It wasn't a political party being banned, it's just he needed to step down.
Imagine if Trump asked the Supreme Court to strike down the 22th Amendment so he could run again. How the fuck do you defend that. How the hell do you even defend Morales? All I've seen is "coup" organised by the U.S. Please explain why Morales deserves another term despite the referendum failing.
All he needed to do was step down. Nothing probably would have harmed his party.
At least I hope that happens. Honestly stanning for someone to violate the Constitution (term limits) is really indefensible. It wasn't a political party being banned, it's just he needed to step down.
Imagine if Trump asked the Supreme Court to strike down the 22th Amendment so he could run again. How the fuck do you defend that. How the hell do you even defend Morales? All I've seen is "coup" organised by the U.S. Please explain why Morales deserves another term despite the referendum failing.
All he needed to do was step down. Nothing probably would have harmed his party.
I don't see US hands here. But this is definitely a military-pressured move by Evo.
I'd say the right-wing movements are weaker now and there's a resurgence of leftist govs in the region. Macri is gone, Bolsonaro won't last now with Lula free, AMLO is at record highs of popularity in Mexico and Chile is on fire.
I'd say the right-wing movements are weaker now and there's a resurgence of leftist govs in the region. Macri is gone, Bolsonaro won't last now with Lula free, AMLO is at record highs of popularity in Mexico and Chile is on fire.
Venezuela failed so gotta do something else with our time.
You'll fall for this shit every fucking time. If Pinochet seized power yesterday everyone would be cool with it.
The only fucking crime committed was the same crime all South American socialists get murdered for - nationalized a resource and told capital to eat shit.
You'll fall for this shit every fucking time. If Pinochet seized power yesterday everyone would be cool with it.
The only fucking crime committed was the same crime all South American socialists get murdered for - nationalized a resource and told capital to eat shit.
You may not like Evo, but when there's the military asking for your resign isnt good for the democracy, it's a cup.
Also seems the cure is worst than the disease, Luis Fernando Camacho entered the gov palace and throw away the flag of the native people "Whipala" and pput a bible Instead.
Also seems the cure is worst than the disease, Luis Fernando Camacho entered the gov palace and throw away the flag of the native people "Whipala" and pput a bible Instead.
Pathetic what people will stan for. His own people voted against allowing him to run. He did it anyways.
Fuck respecting institutions long as our guy wins right?
Yeah, it took me by surprise all of the "good for bolivia" posts.
i dont agree with this, right wing has a cult of personality in latin america even worse, the idolization of the right wing dictators that ruled the continent exists even today by the right wing in all latin america, bolsonaro idolization is a cult, and their track record is much worse than the left in the history of latam with coups through history and destroying the institutions.
Un expresidente saliendo de la cárcel el viernes, un presidente pendiendo de un hilo por manifestaciones desde hace casi un mes y otro renunciando por un golpe militar. Un fin de semana normal en Latinoamérica.
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sadly this is the kind of people you empower when you do what he did, ignoring term limits, the referendum and with fraudulent elections, it's not about not liking him.
For real. Amazing to see the oversimplification of some around here where leftist = "good guys" and everyone against them is against the will of the people or a US backed coup.
Morales became sick and addicted to power. That's all there is to it.
Most of the time they are really wrong are in Latin America.
Center-right is the way. Or even sometimes right.
This has more similarities with Fujimori than with Allende
Yeah, because the Right wing governemnts in Brazil and Chile are super good
Yeah, but we want to do better than the right wing, not supplant one form of authoritarianism with another. The right wing is of course worse overall because they have a longer history of ruining things, but damn it what people like Maduro and Morales do is create setbacks for the left.
One thing I always find funny though is when someone from the left fucks up, the media makes damn sure to say that it was a left wing policy failure. I've never seen the opposite.
Or you could look at this specific situation in a specific local context instead of trying to fit every situation into a single narrative hole.
There is no shortage of situations where your narrative is true in other countries, like Brazil and Chile. Not sure why you have to pick this one out of all the examples.
I am glad Evo stepped down, but fuck opportunistic right wing facists. He really should have stepped down earlier and used his influence to ensure a smooth transition and not fuck the country over like this.
So tired of politicians selfishly fucking over Latin America, it never ends, both the left and right have misused their power.
So tired of politicians selfishly fucking over Latin America, it never ends, both the left and right have misused their power.
A coup is a coup. Morales attempted a coup and was kick out by another coup.
Latinoamerica at its best.
For the people celebrating... Evangelic right wingers were the main contenders of Evo in the past election.
The guy who was second on the voting didn't sound as bad, but the other guys were far right wingers...
Latinoamerica at its best.
For the people celebrating... Evangelic right wingers were the main contenders of Evo in the past election.
The guy who was second on the voting didn't sound as bad, but the other guys were far right wingers...
The OAS is going to do what they do and be garbage. That doesn't change the other facts that posters who are more familiar with the situation has posted.
Ugh, this is the most sickening part about this situation. Morales fucked it up and gave the right a chance.
Do ya know the so called Latin American leftist are also corrupt POS? Why do you think Correa fled from Ecuador after Moreno turned on him? Part of the reason Moreno had to raise taxes was because Correa borrowed money from the Chinese and then misused that money.
Kirchner, do you remember Alberto Nisman? He was investigating Kirchner and then he was found dead. Kirchner's government ruled it was suicide, but everyone knew she ordered his death. Yet, that delinquent not only hasn't faced justice, but now is the elected vice-president of Argentina (thanks to the failed policies of Macri, of course).
Ortega, he has repressed the population of Nicaragua and killed hundred of civilians thanks to his lackeys in the army. Yet that fucker is still ruling the country.
As for Morales, he couldn't run this election. Yet he violated the constitution and, on top of that, did fraud so they wouldn't go to a second ballot.
It amazes me that, because these people proclaim themselves leftist, we need to turn a blind eye to their crimes. I refuse to accept that. No matter your political views, being corrupt and repressing your country through violence or any other mean shouldn't be accepted by anyone.
And for your information, I also hate right-wing scum like Bolsonaro, Piñera and Trump. And if the people managed to topple their governments, I would be celebrating too.
He ran and won by a slight margin, and yet followed OAS recommendation in doing another election inviting several international communities to fiscalize. The army once again tramples society with a military coup.
USA will never allow their self claimed backyard to thrive.
I agree. Shitty leftists need to be called out. Let's improve it, not destroy it.
These countries can't be managed in a vacuum. All of them have their faults but we can't just ignore the economical elite from each one of these countries, and of course foreign interference acts such as sanctions and blockades
Edit: Masked militia arrested Bolivia,s electoral court president. Good job guys, another "dictatorship" overthrown!
Only good things can come from US backed military coups. Only good things.....
This was a rightwing coup, plain and simple. America and a select few other western powers have done such lasting damage to that entire region. Ugh.
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