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My dude check this out I'm gonna fuck myself. ALL ABROAD THE HYPE TRAIN.
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2019 Turkish Local Elections, 31 March |OT| - Finally, Some Good Fucking Democracy
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My dude check this out I'm gonna fuck myself. ALL ABROAD THE HYPE TRAIN.
I was about to post thatMy dude check this out I'm gonna fuck myself. ALL ABROAD THE HYPE TRAIN.
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AKP - 48,75
CHP - 48,65
4K votes in between them. 140 ballot boxes remain to be counted, so around 40K votes. This could go both ways.
CHP - 48,65
4K votes in between them. 140 ballot boxes remain to be counted, so around 40K votes. This could go both ways.
Binali Yıldırım is making a press conference declaring his victory, but İmamoğlu is calling for verification, and going by wet signatures, İmamoğlu claims he is ahead 50-46%.
edit: İmamoğlu condemns Yıldırım declaring preemptive victory.
Basically, on the media, YSK (Yüksek Seçim Kurulu- Assembly For Higher Election) is thought to be always manipulating vote percentages explicitly in favor of AKP (Yıldırım).
edit: İmamoğlu condemns Yıldırım declaring preemptive victory.
Basically, on the media, YSK (Yüksek Seçim Kurulu- Assembly For Higher Election) is thought to be always manipulating vote percentages explicitly in favor of AKP (Yıldırım).
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Both parties can request a recount in certain districts. If there is a disparity between the wet signatures from the party officials and the supreme electoral council, we can see re-election this June just for Istanbul.
Just as I thought, AK won't wait for this. They'll just declare it.
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Even if we lose Istanbul this election is such a huge blow for Erdogan. But Istanbul would be the cherry on top, obviously.
Fox: rumors of 100k invalid votes
İYİ Parti's president is about to deliver a press conference
Edit: Twitter insider quoted above is saying difference is 1500 votes.
Edit: Expressing her confidence in the legitimacy of votes, İYİ Parti president Meral Akşener says that İmamoğlu (CHP) will win İstanbul.
Fox says vote difference is down to several hundred.
İYİ Parti's president is about to deliver a press conference
Edit: Twitter insider quoted above is saying difference is 1500 votes.
Edit: Expressing her confidence in the legitimacy of votes, İYİ Parti president Meral Akşener says that İmamoğlu (CHP) will win İstanbul.
Fox says vote difference is down to several hundred.
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An addition. AA, the official (?) news agency apparently stopped providing new data for 40 minutes or so. Fox presenters are questioning why.
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Unsure yet.
Kılıçdaroğlu (CHP) president is calling out the government on TV now: "This has been an incredibly unfair election for us, from smear campaigns to state-controlled media to manipulation. But the people have exercised their democratic right."
I'm not sure if this was mentioned by the way but the Turkish Communist Party won the election in Tunceli, which I'm pretty sure is a first.
At this point the question isn't whether İmamoğlu won IMO, it's whether AKP and the government will manage to steal that from Istanbul.
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Anadolu Agency doing ALL THEY CAN to not show the last 2 percent of the votes. We already know who won it, cut the crap.
Bahçeli is speaking. He's full of shit. He's claiming the election was without "any coercion or misinformation"
İmamoğlu is giving a press conference to call upon AA to continue releasing data.
"I know we've won, it's very clear. But I'm not making a declaration to this effect, because that's not coherent with my understanding of office."
"I know we've won, it's very clear. But I'm not making a declaration to this effect, because that's not coherent with my understanding of office."
The SOB-in-chief (Erdoğan) is giving his famous Balcony Address. "We only bow down for (Islamist stuff)" is the first thing he's said.
WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING DAMAGE CONTROL
I THINK HE'S DOING DAMAGE CONTROL
OH MY GOD HE'S GASLIGHTING THE OPPOSITION I THINK WE GOT ISTANBUL
edit: "We'll hold those accountable who harmed our heartfelt relationship with the people" lol
he's also saying things like "for 4.5 years there are no more elections!!!!"
back to allahisms
edit: Broken clock. "We'll destroy terrorist organizations in the southeast so that our Syrian refugees may return home." I actually hope if he manages something, it's this.
edit 2: oh my god ahahhahahahahahahahahahhahaha he started his speech saying AKP got 56% but now he says 52%. Also, he's basically sending "don't give up, don't turn away" messages
I THINK HE'S DOING DAMAGE CONTROL
OH MY GOD HE'S GASLIGHTING THE OPPOSITION I THINK WE GOT ISTANBUL
edit: "We'll hold those accountable who harmed our heartfelt relationship with the people" lol
he's also saying things like "for 4.5 years there are no more elections!!!!"
back to allahisms
edit: Broken clock. "We'll destroy terrorist organizations in the southeast so that our Syrian refugees may return home." I actually hope if he manages something, it's this.
edit 2: oh my god ahahhahahahahahahahahahhahaha he started his speech saying AKP got 56% but now he says 52%. Also, he's basically sending "don't give up, don't turn away" messages
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It would be greatly appreciated if some Turkish ERA members could give me an objective non-biased opinion on Erdogan. I've been told things that range from him being a dictator to him being the saviour of modern Turkey. I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle?
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Hahaha Erdogan basically just conceded to the defeat by saying "well we'll see how THEY can govern!" lmao.
That's pretty much impossible. I could tell you about how the Lira's value plummeted more than 20% against the dollar over the last year, about how his cabinet literally removed evolution from high school curricula because it's a "dubious and overly complex theory", about how he undermined all democratic institutions since the 2016 coup attempt, about how he's systematically dismantled the press and silenced activists, about how he single-handedly dismantled any chances of Turkey getting into the EU over the last 5 or so years with his xenophobic rhetoric, about how he used Syrian refugees as a bargaining chip against the EU to try to get Turkey into the Schengen area, but even that might not be objective enough, because anyone who's qualified to answer this, by nature, is embroiled in this bullshit in some way.
Much appreciated! I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't all that popular in Istanbul, but what about the rest of the country, which I guess is more conservative? I mean, the country basically voted to give him even more powers right?
Even in this election, his party got the most vote. Our happiness is over the fact that CHP got the biggest cities. If this didn't follow years upon years upon years of AKP victories, it'd be a defeat. He's popular almost everywhere (except the Aegean region).
Only far right extremists would believe he's the "saviour of modern Turkey".
He radicalized the country towards hardline far right (based on muslim extremism, which, funnily enough is pretty much congruent with far right ideology everywhere!) and has been cutting away at liberal-democratic institutions such as freedom of the press for years now.
Dude is a straight up dictator, there's no middle.
One possibly good thing he tried was that he tried to go into peace talks with the Kurdish terrorist organization PKK (to get the Kurdish vote), but those talks fell out, now the most pro-Kurdish party's president is imprisoned (admittedly, though, he straight up called PKK's founder "honorable Öcalan" so that's somewhat deserved) and PKK's more inflamed, which means that the crackdown on the southeastern Kurds is only going to get worse.
He technically still hosts several million Syrian refugees, but 1. He tried to use them as a bargaining chip and 2. He admitted way too many, now Syrians are everywhere without support, and also as it turns out Syrians are actually causing widespread harassment and threatening of women in the cities they were admitted to, as well as straining infrastructure, so even the possibly good things he did, he did for gain and fucked them up anyway.
Thanks m8. I don't know much about erdogan except that he's been president for a long time and the many friends who speak positively upon visiting the country, so I was surprised.
İmamoğlu's holding a press conference. ACCORDING TO HIS OWN NETWORK AND THEIR OWN CALCULATIONS, IMAMOĞLU HAS WON THE ISTANBUL ELECTION.
What the fuck. On Fox (they're good here), the counted votes in Beşiktaş, a very pro-CHP Istanbul district, jumped directly to 100% from 75% without changing the vote ratios AT ALL.
Daylight robbery.
Daylight robbery.
Not much.
Me neither but the hope here is that the people counteracted that. Hard to believe, but we're close... Yıldırım's offices have no one there, no victory vibes at all; but İmamoğlu's environment was more celebratory.
AA published an article saying that there are several hundred thousand invalid ballots in Istanbul which will be reevaluated pending upcoming objections. (Yes it makes no fucking sense.)
It's been 4 hours since we received official data, and 1.2% of all ballots is left. The other 98.8% was delivered in a couple hours...
And likely, all the CHP votes in that bunch will be declared "invalid"
Probably, and the whole thing is honestly making me bang my head against a wall until it crumbles
"We found widespread fraud and invalid votes. But only in the places where CHP won."
What the fuck
AKP just announced that according to them, they've won by ~3k votes.
edit: FOX points out that the vote difference AKP is claiming (3980 or so) is the difference between the two nominees in the AA's INCOMPLETE count.
AKP just announced that according to them, they've won by ~3k votes.
edit: FOX points out that the vote difference AKP is claiming (3980 or so) is the difference between the two nominees in the AA's INCOMPLETE count.
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President of the supreme election court declared Imamoglu the winner! I am L O V I N G the meltdowns happening at the pro government news shows.
We have, Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir, Adana, Antalya and much more.
Also, fun fact: FOX TV is the most liberal and trusted news source in Turkey.
We have, Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir, Adana, Antalya and much more.
Also, fun fact: FOX TV is the most liberal and trusted news source in Turkey.
That's great to hear, is there any updated pictures to show the change in support from 2014?
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2014:
2019:
Note that "BAĞIMSIZ" means independent, and BDP=HDP
İstanbul - 15M -
Ankara - 5.5M -
İzmir - 4.3M - CHP - CHP
Bursa - 2.9M - AKP - AKP
Antalya - 2.4M -
Adana - 2.2M -
Konya - 2.2M - AKP - AKP
Şanlıurfa - 2M - AKP- AKP
Gaziantep - 2M - AKP- AKP
Kocaeli - 1.9M - AKP - AKP
Now the opposition controls 70% of the economy