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2020 Democratic Presidential Primary | OT | Hickenlooper makes it to the debate
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Inslee's not gonna make it. We'll give a toast to his tenacity when he gets to California and remember him as this primary's
Trying to decide if Trump will call him Robert like this poster just did, or if he'll pick some kind of racial name like he did with Warren. Or maybe both.
My money is on Beta Beto taking off as the nickname of choice for the incels on The Donald
Surprised to see so much support for Beto considering some of his views (member of New Democrat Coalition instead of Congressional Progressive Caucus seeming reluctance to support Medicare for all) . Is it mostly because people think he has the best chance of winning?
Whoever unseats Trump. I'm not a progressive so I don't put that over beating Trump.
I'm favorable to Grandpa Joe, Beto and Klobuchar though.
I'm favorable to Grandpa Joe, Beto and Klobuchar though.
Beto or Gillabrand (or same ticket), everyone else could kick rocks
If I had to pick a grandpa
Biden over Bernie
If I had to pick a grandpa
Biden over Bernie
So he is Bizarro Ted Cruz? I'll buy him at a high price, stranger.
You can pretty safely expect Beto's presidential campaign to be to the left of his senate campaign. He's running nationwide now, not just in Texas. He'll come out in full support of M4A, and probably give some "I've evolved on those issues" responses to concerns about his more questionable votes as a congressman.
Also I think in 2020, D voters will prefer a reasonably progressive candidate. Anyone making a serious run for it is going to be moving left towards Sanders and Warren in order to try swing some voters over to their side. Everyone on that list in the OP is going to be stumping on reforms, reforms, reforms. Except maybe the man shaped like a bullet.
Edit: Looked it up, nope, Ojeda supports Medicare for all too.
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Diamond Joe
- 1973: Anti-integration. Politico: How a Young Joe Biden Turned Liberals Against Integration
- 1991: Anita Hill. Politico: Biden confronts the ghost of Anita Hill. Boston Globe: As he considers 2020, Joe Biden airs regrets of Anita Hill hearings.
- 1994: Crime Bill. NYT: Joe Biden's Role in '90s Crime Law Could Haunt Any Presidential Bid. BBC: Clinton crime bill: Why is it so controversial?
- 1996: Voted against gay marriage. Business Insider: Meet The Democrats Who Voted For DOMA Back When It Was Popular.
- 1999: Voted to repeal Glass-Steagal act. Politico: Lawmakers regret deregulating. CNN: Biden regrets 1999 vote to repeal Glass-Steagall (Youtube)
- 2001: Voted for Patriot act. Buzzfeed News: The Many Occasions Joe Biden Took Credit For Writing The Patriot Act.
- 2002: Voted for Iraq war. Washington Post: How the presidential hopefuls voted on Iraq — and why it matters
- 2012: NYT: Biden Expresses Support for Same-Sex Marriages
- 2018: 'The younger generation now tells me how tough things are—give me a break'. Newsweek: Biden Doesn't Want to Hear Millenials Complain: 'Give Me a Break'
- 2018: Newsweek: Joe Biden Says 'Anybody' Can Beat Donald Trump in 2020 Presidential Election
In terms of ability to beat Trump I think the top 5 most likely able to beat Turmp are:
1. Beto
2. Biden (I don't want him to run though, no one should have to vote for someone over the age of 75 for a first term)
3. Brown (I don't want him to run either because then we have to give his senate seat to a Republican)
3. Gillibrand
4. Kamala
5. Klobuchar
The only major candidates that are unlikely to beat Trump if they were the nominee are Warren and Bernie.
My personal ideal favorite ticket is a combination of Beto and either Kamala or Gillibrand, with Beto at the top of the ticket.
1. Beto
2. Biden (I don't want him to run though, no one should have to vote for someone over the age of 75 for a first term)
3. Brown (I don't want him to run either because then we have to give his senate seat to a Republican)
3. Gillibrand
4. Kamala
5. Klobuchar
The only major candidates that are unlikely to beat Trump if they were the nominee are Warren and Bernie.
My personal ideal favorite ticket is a combination of Beto and either Kamala or Gillibrand, with Beto at the top of the ticket.
Warren or Sanders for me on the policies. But for electability, Sanders has a much higher chance of beating Trump because he's the most popular politician in the US and has maintained much support since the 2016 primary despite a lot of smearing on both sides.
Uh....he is for Medicare For All.
Obama is the most popular Democrat in the country.
And to say he maintained most of his support is not true. His polling numbers in early primary polling aren't really great. He is in the high-teens and always far lower than Biden. When Hillary was in his position in late 2014 after coming in second in the last open primary she was polling over 60%. His polling right now is downright BAD for someone who came second in the last open primary. His polling indicates a lot of his 2016 base has left him and is looking for a new candidate.
If it was up to me it would be Inslee but it isn't and experience is a liability now so it'll likely be someone who has little to no record rather than a long good record of competent governing
So I guess it'll be Harris or Beto
So I guess it'll be Harris or Beto
Bernie >>> Warren >>>>> Kamala >>> Beto
(On policies, Kamala's record as an AG should be an instant disqualification for protecting Mnuchin and borderline transphobia)
(On policies, Kamala's record as an AG should be an instant disqualification for protecting Mnuchin and borderline transphobia)
Sounds like that position evolved since his Texas Campaign where he advocated for a single payer option but was opposed to medicare for all on the basis it oculd have hurt current recipients. It is good to hear if he is willing to fight for M4A
God that right wing comedy sets a whole new bar for "so bad that it's good"
Right wing will latch onto Beto being a "Beta" SJW Cuck as their mode of attack. They are simple minded.
I wanted to support Eric Garcetti, but I'm starting to doubt he will run. The smartest option for him is to just wait until 2028. If he's out of the picture I will likely decide between Kamala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand.
68 year old random governor with no real "it" factor isn't going to go anywhere.
He isn't random. He is the governor of one the most progressive states in the country and is the chair of the Democratic Association of Governors. The "it" factor is also totally subjective.
I have no delusions that he has a good chance but think more people would like him if they knew more about him. I also hope he can at least make Climate Change a major point of discussion in the primaries.
Trump has never heard of that. His names are far more basic and limited. He has about 6 or 7 and already recycles half of them.
Holy hell, I looked up declared Libertarian candidates for the hell of it and check out these fucking losers:
Adam Kokesh - Wants to abolish the federal government, believes taxation is theft, pro-life, has a raging boner for guns, holding guns, and looking at other people holding guns, and can't stop getting arrested for 5 minutes to run a campaign.
Arvin Vohra - Thinks we should be shooting teachers instead of students, wants to abolish public schools, thinks Chris "The Crying Nazi" Cantwell is cooler than teachers, (wow what the fuck happened to this guy in middle school), is really upset about age of consent laws but would "probably not" have sex with a 14 year old, and "listen, guys, rapists are good people who sometimes do things we may individually disagree with."
Vermin Supreme - Wears a boot on his head, passionate about dental hygiene, animal lover, easily the most electable candidate in this pool.
Adam Kokesh - Wants to abolish the federal government, believes taxation is theft, pro-life, has a raging boner for guns, holding guns, and looking at other people holding guns, and can't stop getting arrested for 5 minutes to run a campaign.
Arvin Vohra - Thinks we should be shooting teachers instead of students, wants to abolish public schools, thinks Chris "The Crying Nazi" Cantwell is cooler than teachers, (wow what the fuck happened to this guy in middle school), is really upset about age of consent laws but would "probably not" have sex with a 14 year old, and "listen, guys, rapists are good people who sometimes do things we may individually disagree with."
Vermin Supreme - Wears a boot on his head, passionate about dental hygiene, animal lover, easily the most electable candidate in this pool.
You either have to be an elected politician or a well-known celebrity to get any attention. He almost assuredly will not meet the polling threshold to even be on the debate stage at the first debate in June. Has nothing to do with his policies.
I mean hell he has less than 3,000 twitter followers. Thats less than a lot of ERA members lol.
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I'm sure this will be civil/s
Hopefully things are more interesting than last time. Bernie and Hillary were the only candidates anyone cared about last time.
Too bad AOC can't run. Hopefully she will some day.
LMAO.
Hopefully things are more interesting than last time. Bernie and Hillary were the only candidates anyone cared about last time.
Too bad AOC can't run. Hopefully she will some day.
LMAO.
Funny thing is, NYTimes a few weeks back reported Beto for a 2020 campaign wants to livestream nearly 24/7 with a near nonstop live video feed to have a live stream camera on him and his campaign pretty much every waking hour.
The man knows how to use social media to his advantage. Dude's charismatic as hell.
Could be really interesting if he ends up running.
You post this tweet every time, but surely there is more substantive than a one word tweet posted almost a year ago you can point to as evidence of his support for M4A and a $15 minimum wage, right?
This is where Sanders should be endorsing rather than run and continue to fragment.
If Sanders wasn't running, he would probably endorse Warren. Their political ideologies overlap like 99.8%.
Him and Julian look like they should be the creepy twins in a horror film.
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