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2020 Democratic Presidential Primary | OT | Bernie hires Sirota after he had written articles attacking rivals

Oct 25, 2017
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Beto is just like a human jar of mayonnaise at the moment. Maybe once Biden hops in he'll look better.

Michael Brooks made a good point yesterday, which is that if you want a young, charismatic white guy you should be looking at Pete. The only reason people aren't is because he's gay.
 
Nov 7, 2017
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This thread is highly entertaining. He doesn't have a position on Brexit and hasn't released his tax returns 36 hours into his campaign? What a f'ing monster!

Some of you have no chill.
He's running for president and cant even put out a platitude position on a major economic and social upheaval of our closest ally that he's had years to reflect on which was primarily voted by racism due to immigration after running on an anti-racist,pro-immigration platform ~5 months ago. Not to mention his wishy washy bullshit on literally every major issue along with his treatment of Will Hurd and you have to wonder what his purpose even is.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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He's running for president and cant even put out a platitude position on a major economic and social upheaval of our closest ally that he's had years to reflect on which was primarily voted by racism due to immigration after running on an anti-racist,pro-immigration platform ~5 months ago. Not to mention his wishy washy bullshit on literally every major issue along with his treatment of Will Hurd and you have to wonder what his purpose even is.
I've just never seen people out to eviscerate someone so hard in politics not named Trump. With half of these posts, I could not tell you whether I'm reading Era or Fox News comments.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Beto is just like a human jar of mayonnaise at the moment. Maybe once Biden hops in he'll look better.

Michael Brooks made a good point yesterday, which is that if you want a young, charismatic white guy you should be looking at Pete. The only reason people aren't is because he's gay.
Buttigieg is, IMO, a better speaker, even. Certainly has much better policies so far.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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What the hell do you define as "universal" healthcare? I define it as having a system that provides people with life saving surgery right then and there.
I called it pedantic because that's something you can safely assume will be covered given context. Even the shittiest of insurance covers life-saving surgery.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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well you've been here since 2017 so I don't believe this at all
Has it been that long already? Just an impression. I've seen all the Kamala, Klobuchar, Warren, etc announcements and they kinda come and go and there are comments or jokes here and there. The toxicity to Beto's first two days is just...different. Not sure what to think of it.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Michael Brooks made a good point yesterday, which is that if you want a young, charismatic white guy you should be looking at Pete. The only reason people aren't is because he's gay.
Is that really it? I think it's just because he hasn't had his "moment". Beto did with his Senate race. Kamala made hers when she ran and built up a "divisive" record before hand, and being "divisive" is good for eyeballs.

Buttigieg seems to be struggling to break out in this sense because he hasn't been in the game long enough or he hasn't had the right mix of controversy + hype.
 
Nov 7, 2017
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Has it been that long already? Just an impression. I've seen all the Kamala, Klobuchar, Warren, etc announcements and they kinda come and go and there are comments or jokes here and there. The toxicity to Beto's first two days is just...different. Not sure what to think of it.
Well none have immediately flopped as hard as Beto. Well except Gabbard, Gillibrand and Booker but they've been called out as well and also have a less than 1% shot at winning the primary. Beto is actually popular so naturally people are gonna be more scared/hostile when he does constantly dumb shit.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Has it been that long already? Just an impression. I've seen all the Kamala, Klobuchar, Warren, etc announcements and they kinda come and go and there are comments or jokes here and there. The toxicity to Beto's first two days is just...different. Not sure what to think of it.
allow me to show you a couple of threads about a candidate named Bernie Sanders

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-set-to-announce-2020-presidential-run.95780/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bernie-sanders-will-run-again-in-2020.100566/

that second one got to 79 pages!
 
Beto is just like a human jar of mayonnaise at the moment. Maybe once Biden hops in he'll look better.

Michael Brooks made a good point yesterday, which is that if you want a young, charismatic white guy you should be looking at Pete. The only reason people aren't is because he's gay.
I'd say it's more that similar to Bernie at this point last cycle people barely know who the fuck he is, and he lacks the advantage Bernie had of a mostly-empty field. Give it a few debates and he might pick up some momentum.
 
Nov 7, 2017
11,650
Is that really it? I think it's just because he hasn't had his "moment". Beto did with his Senate race. Kamala made hers when she ran and built up a "divisive" record before hand, and being "divisive" is good for eyeballs.

Buttigieg seems to be struggling to break out in this sense because he hasn't been in the game long enough or he hasn't had the right mix of controversy + hype.
He's also a mayor who had pretty much 0 national attention before he announced. Idk about others here but I never knew he existed until January or whenever he anmounced
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I've just never seen people out to eviscerate someone so hard in politics not named Trump. With half of these posts, I could not tell you whether I'm reading Era or Fox News comments.
Look at it this way, right now we're trying to decide who is going to lead the Democratic Party. To lead the party, you need to have a pretty good idea of where you want to take it. Someone who says "uhhh, I don't know, I gotta think about it" at this stage is pretty alarming. You make those decisions before you announce.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Beto is just like a human jar of mayonnaise at the moment. Maybe once Biden hops in he'll look better.

Michael Brooks made a good point yesterday, which is that if you want a young, charismatic white guy you should be looking at Pete. The only reason people aren't is because he's gay.
He wants to persecute whistleblowers. I don't imagine you need to dig much deeper to find even more egregious things. Fuck that guy.
 
Nov 7, 2017
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I'd say it's more that similar to Bernie at this point last cycle people barely know who the fuck he is, and he lacks the advantage Bernie had of a mostly-empty field. Give it a few debates and he might pick up some momentum.
Disagree. Beto is announcing with a stronger support base and popularity than Bernie in 2016 and he's slowly going downwards.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Well none have immediately flopped as hard as Beto. Well except Gabbard, Gillibrand and Booker but they've been called out as well and also have a less than 1% shot at winning the primary. Beto is actually popular so naturally people are gonna be more scared/hostile when he does constantly dumb shit.
Thing is, I'm not convinced of that. Should he have an answer on Brexit? Probably. Is it in anyone's top 10, or probably even top 25 list of concerns about the US right now? Shouldn't be.

This thread has come off more South Park "rabble rabble rabble!" than it has anything else. We're still 599 days to election day. Still a lot of room for all the candidates.
 

With less than 11 months until the New Hampshire primary, the list of Democratic presidential candidates is only getting longer (15 and counting!). Contenders are already hiring senior staff and making multiple campaign visits to the first-in-the-nation primary state, which has often served as a make-or-break contest for top candidates seeking their party’s presidential nomination.
With that as a backdrop, here are the first rankings of the 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, ordered by their likelihood of winning the New Hampshire primary if it were held today (it’s slated for Feb. 11, 2020). This list is based on interviews with activists and operatives in the state, recent polling, and an evaluation of the campaign’s on-the-ground operation.
7. Marianne Williamson, author and spiritual guru
Yes, a person most readers will have to Google is already well ahead of sitting senators, Cabinet officials, and former governors in the New Hampshire rankings. Don’t believe me? Just look at the overflow crowds of people who adore her and probably won’t even consider voting for anyone else. It’s clear by these counts that Williamson, Oprah Winfrey’s spiritual adviser, enters the race with her own base of support, which can go a long way in a 20-candidate field. Also, it turned a lot of heads when former congressman Paul Hodes agreed to run her campaign in the state.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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He's also a mayor who had pretty much 0 national attention before he announced. Idk about others here but I never knew he existed until January or whenever he anmounced
Right, same. Kamala already had a bunch of Californian haters/supporters before she even ran. I only had to mention Kamala around a Californian e-buddy of mine and out came the vitriol. Bernie had his long record as (I) and 2016. Biden had Obama.

Buttigieg is fighting an uphill battle here.

He needs something crazy to happen, like running into a burning house to save a dog.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I've just never seen people out to eviscerate someone so hard in politics not named Trump. With half of these posts, I could not tell you whether I'm reading Era or Fox News comments.
you think this place is Fox News because a candidate is getting called out for being too conservative?
All of those posters are russian bots though

/s
 
Yang/Williamson 2020

Give me a $12,000 a year UBI for video games and an oprah endorsed book of the month club while the world burns, baby!
Personally, I'd prefer the Black Hills to go back to the Sioux among many of Williamson's published positions. But it is encouraging that you want to read more. It might discourage you from taking opportunities to disparage women from the look of some of your posts.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Personally, I'd prefer the Black Hills to go back to the Sioux among many of Williamson's published positions. But it is encouraging that you want to read more. It might discourage you from taking opportunities to disparage women from the look of some of your posts.
Oh really? I'll look into her positions more because that's good. I've only seen her mentioned along with Yang as the current grassroots memish candidates, so I made a joke.

Not sure what comments disparaging women you're talking about, though.
 
Jan 15, 2019
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Beto is just like a human jar of mayonnaise at the moment. Maybe once Biden hops in he'll look better.

Michael Brooks made a good point yesterday, which is that if you want a young, charismatic white guy you should be looking at Pete. The only reason people aren't is because he's gay.
I'm sure that's part of it, but he's also a minor political figure and tons of people aren't even remotely tuned in to the primaries yet. I have faith that he's going to do really well once debates are underway.
 
Nov 7, 2017
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Thing is, I'm not convinced of that. Should he have an answer on Brexit? Probably. Is it in anyone's top 10, or probably even top 25 list of concerns about the US right now? Shouldn't be.

This thread has come off more South Park "rabble rabble rabble!" than it has anything else. We're still 599 days to election day. Still a lot of room for all the candidates.
He's a politician running for a position that has a large diplomat and foreign policy role. If he can't even describe Brexit I have 0 hope.
 
Oh really? I'll look into her positions more because that's good. I've only seen her mentioned along with Yang as the current grassroots memish candidates, so I made a joke.

Not sure what comments disparaging women you're talking about, though.
Here's a link to her page https://www.marianne2020.com/issues (scroll down)
Specifically Native American reconciliation https://www.marianne2020.com/issues/native-american-reconciliation

Sincere apologies if I mixed you up with others in the Beto announcement thread who posted and mocked women who were Beto supporters.
 
Buttigieg is, IMO, a better speaker, even. Certainly has much better policies so far.
And a better debater, easily. Beto lost his charm during his midterm debates, but Pete was fantastic during the DNC debate. Beto will probably do better in an environment that lacks Ted Cruz, but he would still have to improve quite a bit to reach Pete’s level.

Really, I would say the main reason Pete ever had a political career to begin with is because he’s such a highly skilled communicator. Speeches, town halls, debates, he seems really solid at all of them.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Here's a link to her page https://www.marianne2020.com/issues (scroll down)
Specifically Native American reconciliation https://www.marianne2020.com/issues/native-american-reconciliation

Sincere apologies if I mixed you up with others in the Beto announcement thread who posted and mocked women who were Beto supporters.
I'm all for as many progressive people of different stripes getting into the primaries because I want lots of different kinds of pressure for the party to go left by the end of all these debates.

Full disclosure: I absolutely made fun of that calf cramping tweet because I think it's hilarious, but that wasn't an attack on women. Just weird people on twitter.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Denver
I don't know how much stock to put into an overheard quote, but that's unacceptable if true.

Is that seriously something someone running for president who doesn't care enough about foreign policy to form an opinion on that, or does he seriously need to run a freaking poll and focus group to answer that? Either way that doesn't look good.

Maybe next he'll be answering "What should we do about the Khashoggi incident?" with "What is Aleppo?"
 

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Nov 25, 2017
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Really, I would say the main reason Pete ever had a political career to begin with is because he’s such a highly skilled communicator. Speeches, town halls, debates, he seems really solid at all of them.
I agree. I'm leaning towards Buttigieg out of all of the candidates so far, so I hope he does really well. If not, I'll settle for Bernie as the nominee.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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And a better debater, easily. Beto lost his charm during his midterm debates, but Pete was fantastic during the DNC debate. Beto will probably do better in an environment that lacks Ted Cruz, but he would still have to improve quite a bit to reach Pete’s level.
Beto's debating skills are pretty average, although he did have a much stronger showing in the second debate. Pete would run circles around Beto in a debate, but I'm not sure that matters.