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2020 Democratic Presidential Primary | OT | Hickenlooper makes it to the debate
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Nope. He laid out some pretty specific things he wants to do in a short period of time.
Someone asked Beto that and he said he does, that if his staff wanted to unionize he'd support it.
I want to know where Beto stands with regards to tuition-free college, addressing student loan debt, and whether he supports green job guarantee.
No, it was conspiracy shit.
I mean, given how temporary the positions are unionizing seems kinda pointless to me. Not that it hurts, but I don't think it's going to provide people in the union much benefit since... 99% of them will only be on for a year and a half at most and most even less than that.
False. DNC can't give more than 5k to Beto.
Bernie hiring people that are plugged-in to his existing base of support is not a scandal, especially since his other hires to this point have been largely pretty good and designed to shore up some of his weaknesses from last time. "Voted for Jill Stein in a safe state" is just about the mildest political sin I can imagine.
Honestly, Cheebo, I do not remember you being so over-the-top and abrasive in your political proclamations in the past, is my memory faulty or has Trump in the White House pushed you into overdrive?
Honestly, Cheebo, I do not remember you being so over-the-top and abrasive in your political proclamations in the past, is my memory faulty or has Trump in the White House pushed you into overdrive?
If you keep hearing this you are following the wrong people on social media.
Lmao the questioner is part of "rose" twitter.
Still good on her to hammer him on it and get some positions out there especially given the crowd probably wasn't "friendly" torwards her.
Still good on her to hammer him on it and get some positions out there especially given the crowd probably wasn't "friendly" torwards her.
Trump being in the White House has absolutely done that. We need a candidate who can not only beat him but have coattails in the south and southwest where nearly all of the competitive senate races are so we can retake the senate. If only to be able to pack the lower courts to undo the damage Trump has done to them.
If we don't take those competitive south and southwest senate seats its impossible to get anything done.
Didn't she shielded a top adviser accused of sexual harassment? Didn't she herself intimidate her husband's accusers?
It is true that it's an excellent way to discover which people you see or follow on twitter are dishonest jackasses.
I don't though, and it's not people I'm following. Thanks, I just wanted to confirm.
Individual donors question is a dead giveaway it's a Bernie supporter and I'm not surprised since he even sends out stuff like saying he probably beat Beto in individual donations in his fundraising emails, giving supporters something to latch on to.
This question is pointless simply because there is no answer he could give that would prevent "HE HAS NO POLICIES UNLIKE ____ (my candidate)" being their eternal go to talking point for the next 18 months. It's not about policies, and it's not about wanting an answer.
Cheebo, you quiped yesterday that you found it odd that I stand strong with Williamson. I've been reflecting on that since last night and how to explain it. It's not just about a shared spiritual interest. It's not simply a matter of her political views or her history or how she conducts herself. It's a combination of these things and more that is maybe not easily definable.
I'd heard of her previously(I worked at a metaphysical bookstore in the early 90s) but her material and ACIM were something that I hadn't gotten around to studying. So I'm not previously a follower of her work and carrying it forward. In fact, I snarkily dismissed her candidacy when I first heard of it in the thread.
This article published today covers a bit of what I find compelling about her and I chose sections to quote that I find resonate with me. But it is more than these. I think what finally convinced me to make my sword hers was a combination of learning of her work with people suffering of AIDS in the 80s combined with the effect she appears to be having on the national conversation and some of her recent metaphysical statements. Anyways, maybe these few quotes pulled from the article or the article itself(it's a long one) may give you and others insight into why people would want to get to know and support Williamson once they do.
I'd heard of her previously(I worked at a metaphysical bookstore in the early 90s) but her material and ACIM were something that I hadn't gotten around to studying. So I'm not previously a follower of her work and carrying it forward. In fact, I snarkily dismissed her candidacy when I first heard of it in the thread.
This article published today covers a bit of what I find compelling about her and I chose sections to quote that I find resonate with me. But it is more than these. I think what finally convinced me to make my sword hers was a combination of learning of her work with people suffering of AIDS in the 80s combined with the effect she appears to be having on the national conversation and some of her recent metaphysical statements. Anyways, maybe these few quotes pulled from the article or the article itself(it's a long one) may give you and others insight into why people would want to get to know and support Williamson once they do.
Beto hitting the right states at the start. To take back the White House you need the Rust Belt (Or at least, some form of it)
She went out of her way to ship the victim off to another location in favor of keeping the harasser. And yes, she was also awful to the women who were victims of her predator of a husband.
At least she didn't delete her tweets and I'm sure she will respond/address questions/concerns about them. Which is more that can be said about Sirota.
Yeah, asking questions like that could be encouraged. A good candidate will be able to handle it
Yep, and in fact, Clinton was planning on elevating her rapist husband in her hypothetical administration. That wouldn't be the best hire, to put it politely. And that she retains association with him and that Democrats welcome these people with applause when they see them remains disturbing.
I think the Russia attack line is important because Russia interfering in the elections is important. And because it animates the base, too. Delegitimizes his presidency, which is a good thing -- it deserves to be delegitimized.
Kind of related to that, I worry about the Mueller report. I don't trust Republicans. I don't trust this country to hold its oligarchs and the powerful accountable. I think Trump is obviously guilty of collusion or something related to that based on what he's done, that we know of. There is likely way more happening that we don't know about. I wouldn't believe a Mueller report that suggested anything close to clearing him. But I worry about a Mueller report exonerating him anyway. Whether because of a bad faith cover up or Mueller's team being unable to find enough evidence or the administration successfully destroying it or hiding it, there's a lot of potential ways for Trump to walk free from this. Reagan and Iran Contra come to mind.
I think the Russia attack line is important because Russia interfering in the elections is important. And because it animates the base, too. Delegitimizes his presidency, which is a good thing -- it deserves to be delegitimized.
Kind of related to that, I worry about the Mueller report. I don't trust Republicans. I don't trust this country to hold its oligarchs and the powerful accountable. I think Trump is obviously guilty of collusion or something related to that based on what he's done, that we know of. There is likely way more happening that we don't know about. I wouldn't believe a Mueller report that suggested anything close to clearing him. But I worry about a Mueller report exonerating him anyway. Whether because of a bad faith cover up or Mueller's team being unable to find enough evidence or the administration successfully destroying it or hiding it, there's a lot of potential ways for Trump to walk free from this. Reagan and Iran Contra come to mind.
Well if Bernie got the nomination, he would have fallen in the shower during one of his hotel stays before campaigning, gone into a concussion and never woken up, allowing Trump to win.
I can make up what if scenarios too.
Ahh. it's not filtering out by democratic voters - just all voters who voted in the democratic primary (which are not the same thing, especially as you get later in the breakdown into certain states). Makes sense at that point, considering every state after Indiana had no GOP primary election to vote for.
As compelling as saying a candidate that lost the nomination by 3 million would have won an election that said nominee lost.
please don't doxx me
False. It would be tremendously illegal to do so as well, he can send as much money as he wants back to the party but they cannot transfer infinite amounts back to him for his Presidental committee.
The former's enough. And if nothing else, she dismissed them and their accusations, did she not?
I'm sure Hillary would have given her endorsement to him and gone around the country giving speeches to support him, so he would have been fine.
Bernie was beating Clinton in GE polls even as he lost the nomination.
That's great wonder how candidates more strapped for cash feel.
She did dismiss them and their accusations, but she did that as a wife wanting to believe her husband, which is a vantage point neither you nor I have.
In general, I try to avoid talking about Bill's shit through the lens of Hillary; because love and marriage is tricky, and who knows why she chose to believe him and who knows why she stayed. Besides, a lot of this commentary has the implication of trying to tie Hillary in as a knowing accomplice and encourager of Bill's behavior (and not a victim in her own right), and that I find to be...well, pretty fucking gross.
There are plenty of roads to take to legitimately criticize Hillary Clinton without resorting to that old, well-worn, misogynistic one.
I mean,
https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/poli...donald-trump-bill-clinton-accusers/index.html
That's what Juanita Broaddrick says.
Bernie - Sirota hiring after secretly working for him while acting as journalist
If true, that Sirota thing is some dirty ass shit. Unacceptable.
I mean, you can't, or at least shouldn't, try to deflect criticism of Hillary's complicity with her husband's behavior against women, or her alleged intimidation of the victims, or slurs against the victims, by saying that this is a sexist line of attack. Hillary enabled her husband's abuses against other women. She's not the victim here. She's a perpetrator and enabler.
I mean, you can't, or at least shouldn't, try to deflect criticism of Hillary's complicity with her husband's behavior against women, or her alleged intimidation of the victims, or slurs against the victims, by saying that this is a sexist line of attack. Hillary enabled her husband's abuses against other women. She's not the victim here. She's a perpetrator and enabler.
Unfortunately his oponents supporters are a heartless bunch and did not care. Also the whole perception that she had the election in the bag did not help ger at all. After the commey thing those the problem were not those that voted against her the problem were those who did not vote at all.
Criticizing someone for dismissing multiple accusations of abuse is not misogyny. It doesn't matter if you're a husband, wife, sister, brother, whatever.
Are you saying this is a sexist thing to do? Call someone out for dismissing allegations of sexual assault?
Because fuck that.
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