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2020 Democratic Presidential Primary | OT | Hickenlooper makes it to the debate
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It'd actually be funny for about 39 seconds and then it'd be scary cause Tulsi would be natural causes away from the white house
If automation is only applied to truck drivers when it comes to travel, then I think you're absolutely right. Because it would mean a good amount of traffic from collisions, and general inefficiency from human driving like today's reality. Automation would lead to more people going to bigger cities like Yang said as many small economies that are linked to truck driving would be drastically affected. If human driving was massively reduced, then traffic would be better from the standpoint of there being less accidents, and for example, the distance between each vehicle could be more efficient as robots would have no problem traveling, stopping, turning at a consistent pace.
In general you're right with regards to densifying our cities.
Honestly, it's pretty frightening and as Yang said, companies don't usually lay off people when things are going great, but when they're needing to cut costs which would lead to massive unrest. It's impossible to retrain people who are by and large at an age where that isn't realistic.
There's no conspiracy.
Tulsi Gabbard is super shitty and no one should be voluntarily associating with her and praising her in the 2020 campaign season.
Nina Turner has had very questionable judgment in the past, making it so that Sanders hiring her for a high level campaign position is itself an incredibly suspect judgement call.
And discovering that two weeks ago, Turner was out hanging with Tulsi and talking her up, is an example of why hiring her is an example of poor judgment.
If Tulsi's on the ticket, the entire Dem party will have melted down and the American government is almost certainly FUBAR, yes.
What a psycho
I already listed reasons why it would make sense. One would be no longer needing to spend money on cars which is necessary the way our city planning was screwed up. Another would be car insurance as a company for example would own the vehicles. I grant you the fact that self driving cars being owned would still mean less accidents which means less traffic, less accidents leading to less taxes on health care, and less taxes on police as policing traffic would be almost meaningless as speeding tickets wouldn't be a thing. However, in a world where self driving cars are around for purchase, people would need to buy said cars. At that point you can't force people to make the transition because it would punish poor people from getting around, which would mean you lessen the positive impact self driving cars would have an those things I listed.
The problem exists from the standpoint of the car makers. However, one could easily argue that just like how youtube creators make money from advertisement through eyeballs, you could plaster ads on display inside vehicles. No longer needing to own a car makes it more likely you travel as you wouldn't have to spend on gas and allows you to watch advertisement which you can't do in the current reality. Owning a self driving car takes this away.
I find this type of problem solving and discussion fascinating.
Yang sparked my curiosity and I hope his idea behind the reasoning for UBI sparks this kind of discussion.
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My tweet was from last year to be fair
But not like Nina and Tulsi stopped being good friends since then.
Yes, he is going to pick Tulsi, the person polling the worst even with minorities and women.
Highly doubtful.
He is. I don't think this particular stunt would hurt him in the polls, though.
i think tulsi's shittiness has become more widely known though
turner might not push for her just because of that, and if she does i think other people in the campaign would push back
either way i don't think she's a big enough name or interesting enough in and of herself to make it
Why hire her? Is there not a more qualified person with way less baggage available?
biden's just a moron and pretty right-wing
one of his best friends in the senate was strom fucking thurmond
I mean the lol was because he probably won't... but it's not a non zero
Bleh, this is like Clinton choosing Kaine-- opting for loyalty over everything else and it shows really shitty judgement.
I think she absolutely would and I agree I think others would push back.
So showing us how to google and Bernie calling Clinton unqualified, is the best you can do, can't say I'm surprised.
VenomouSanders should be his new nickname - coming for you and not taking names
Yes, both Sanders and Clinton have some aspects of their personalities that overlap that are super bad. The loyalty > competence thing is one, the "not comfortable with campaigning outside your comfort zone" was another.
I mean he called Planned Parenthood the establishment...
Does that count for something?
I'm not seeing any examples from you about Hillary using personal attacks.
I just have this dark comedy vision of Sanders winning the primary and then going and my VP is Tulsi Gabbard lol
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The rationale is "people die all the time in car accidents that are preventable."
He'd have to seduce her with donuts and water for that to happen.
I actually just learned about "donut twitter" from this thread but that quote from her always makes me lol
Well, she did say he was an old man with his head in the clouds!
I dont know if she actually said this, but I am saying she did. :p
I think I would be pissed off. Like not sure I would vote in the general levels of posted off. Lol
That wouldn't even be about tone-deafness there.
Mandating self-driving systems does not require banning private ownership.
That discourse was great
Pro infanticide lol
And then they cut off anyone trying to disagree
"anti semitic" lmao, we're going to see this get pushed alot for not letting the israel lobby just roll over you, even though they still do anyway
I think my brain melted
And that's the supposed "liberal" version of Fox News lol
msnbc would absolutely love it if trump won 2020, they've been doing great since they became the #resistance network
To be honest I don't think a single network isn't happy that Trump is President
Wasnt that because they did some anti union stuff.
Also getting bent out of shape over the unlikely hypothetical that gabbard will be VP. It aint happening.
No
He just literally dropped them and the HRC as part of the establishment he's fighting against while talking about fighting Wall Street
Yep, so essentially getting close to removing that would remove some costs to alleviate the massive job loss. That's basically the premise of this small discussion. Obviously, there is more needed to be done that are more important like Yang's proposal.
oh for sure, but people might expect msnbc to be different because they're "liberal"
Can you really eliminate accidents from that? I would imagine it would cost money to make that transition and thus be a strain on the poorer people. Because we're already at a point where we're trying to transition to electric vehicles due to climate change. All of this could be a massive sudden shift, which is why it's an important discussion to be had.
Maybe installation of display systems to pay for the transition so that you'll be advertised through your own vehicle?
I think we should stop btw. It's a cool little discussion on ways to help the massive job loss from automation, but we're getting off topic. lol
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Upon originally discussing this question I realized that it does, because people don't believe they are worse at driving than a robot. If we actually want to end human driving we need to end human ownership.
Also people regularly drive cars that are two decades old, so a self-driving mandate does nothing without a plan to actually eliminate old manual cars, in which case we're already halfway along the route to banning private ownership (buyback or prohibition).
It is not a hit piece. This was known internally to other people in the Senate as a problem, reporters knew about it before she announced and thought she was crazy to run, and it's coming out now because it's utterly disqualifying.
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