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2020 Democratic Presidential Primary | OT | Hickenlooper makes it to the debate
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For Bernie fans who freak out at Beto and Kamala even speaking to AIPAC one would think hiring an advocate for AIPAC as a senior advisor and speech writer would be a problem, no?
It's only bad to support AIPAC if the person isn't involved with Bernie. /s
So it's no longer a problem when Bernies senior advisor and speech writer is an advocate for AIPAC? Because I remember a lot of Bernie fans getting very angry at her for even talking to AIPAC
Sirota was the guy who misrepresented Beto's Senate donations when Beto had been floated as a 2020 candidate. He said he took money from Gas and Energy corporations when in reality he had taken donations from INDIVIDUALS who happened to work for that industry which for those who aren't knowledgeable of Texas, is a big part of that state.
Sirota is dishonest trash
Sirota is dishonest trash
Yes but he committed lese majeste against Yas Queen in 2016, an unforgivable crime.
I cant make the connection that you guys are making, what is u guys' point?
I mean, one of the reasons Hillary was seen as a "trash candidate" is because of her shady political associations. Bernie hiring David Sirota as a speech writer and communications advisor now is like the Clinton's association with Dick Morris or Mark Penn. This the type of "establishment" under-the-table footsie-ing that Bernie claims to be against.
Being opposed to Hillary in the primary is fine. It's a primary.
Trying to bring down the democratic nominee in the general election against Trump? No self-respecting progressive should forgive that.
As someone who would love to have Beto or Bernie on the ballot, I wish we didnt have to resort to attacking others for liking one candidate more than the other.
I just hope how ever it shakes up that we can unify and vote together in November to get trump out of office.
I just hope how ever it shakes up that we can unify and vote together in November to get trump out of office.
Tbh i don't know much about him. Yeah, that would bother me but Bernie is one of the few candidates to even show any support for palestinians so i think we can trust that Bernie is not going to take pictures with netanyahu anytime soon.
That is a weird pivot. I mean, pointing to Japan which only has negative growth rates because of low immigration makes it seem like more of a dog whistle, not less.
Thank you. You don't even have to turn in your Bernie supporter card!
Liking one candidate over the other is fine and normal. It's a primary.
Trying to help elect Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton in a general election and having this person be your speech writer and senior advisor is quite different.
Btw he not only advocated for AIPAC. He worked for them.
...which one of them is pro trump?
Or is this more punching left bs?
The one who wrote endless anti-Hillary hit pieces all general election long while ignoring the endless amount of issues with Trump perhaps?
The one who made it their mission to bring Hillary Clinton down and write pro-Trump spin articles, unless you honestly believe articles like these are appropriate to write
Check out those last 4 and tell me with a straight face this is someone you think is a good addition to Sanders' team
It's important to be able to be critical of your preferred candidate's shit decisions. Being in lockstep and always uncritical even with extremely shady choices makes people no different from MAGA cultists imo.
I was more so just speaking in general terms, not really making a point on the whole Sirota thing. I am just thinking big picture here. I get that there are major flaws with each candidate, and things will change/develop as we get closer to November.
I just hope we can be more unified this time around and get people out to vote rather than having them sit at home feeling apathetic that their candidate didnt make the cut.
Err well I agree with that first part anyway. From the little I now know of Sirota, I'm not liking him. Cheebos linked articles were pretty clearly biased and shit timing on Sirota's part.
It's not really clear what the implication is. He isn't Bernie's foreign policy advisor. That's Matt Duss and he's very critical of Isreal.
That is not what he did. He wrote multiple anti-Hillary hit pieces nearly every week the entire general election and almost completely avoided saying anything negative about Trump, in fact wrote multiple PRO Trump articles.
When they write pro-Trump articles they might be a pro-Trump supporter
What is this, if not a pro-Trump article?
https://www.ibtimes.com/political-c...ic-experts-who-say-official-unemployment-rate
I mean I was a Hillary supporter but I was happy to rip her a new one for her many missteps. That fucking Nancy Reagan AIDS statement omg.
Idc what team you play for, but in what realm is Sirota a "fantastic hire"?
Dude doesn't belong in the room for this primary, and we're worse off having him involved, honestly.
Dude doesn't belong in the room for this primary, and we're worse off having him involved, honestly.
If an opinion writer during a general election writes endless articles attacking the Democratic candidate and then also writes puff pieces promoting the Republican candidate....yeah, they are advocating for the Republican to win. This is not rocket science here.
I have the person who posted those articles on my ignore list lol
But yeah, even looking at them it's pretty obvious none of them are pro trump unless you have some serious Clinton blinders on. Calling Sirota pro trump is such a laughable and bad faith claim it's hard to even address it seriously.
The guy is an unabashed left winger and sanders supporter. Yes, he doesn't like Clinton's brand of neoliberalism and isn't afraid to be open about it. That's why many like him and why he's a good addition to the team.
Then you really don't care about the Democratic party or defeating Trump. It's one thing to support Sanders, but to not care that after Hillary got the nomination that Sirota wrote bullshit about Hillary that helped Trump win means that you really don't give a fuck.
Nothing like writing articles like "How Pence's Gambling Bet Paid Off" and "Sanders And Warren To Trump: We're With You" in between peddling anti Hillary conspiracy theories.
Wow this guy sounds really influential if he was able to swing the election to trump. /s BTW i still voted for hillary even though i dislike her, i care enough about the democratic party to want to win.
that's my impression of David Sirota as well. I think it's a controversial pick simply because a lot of centrists hate him, for whatever reason they say, but he's no fan of Trump.
It's also worth noting that people are offended that there are Bernie supporters who vote third party in New York... and that maybe there's a divide that can't be bridged unless Bernie only hired mild, center-left liberals.
edit: also lol at the comment above. I certainly do not care about the Democratic Party.
That's good on you, but why support a writer that sabotages net efforts to stop Trump and support policy improvements?
Agreed, I think they're having trouble understanding that actual leftists are happy that Bernie is picking people that centrists don't like.
It isn't hard to ask someone to support the nominee of the party if your preferred candidate loses the primary. I'd be just as deserving to be called out if I refused to vote Bernie if he won the nomination.
Instead, Bernie is hiring people who wrote pro-Trump puff pieces and anti-Hillary hit jobs just because he was bitter his preferred pick lost the nomination.
Brianha Joy Gray is a great hire. I've been following her stuff for a long time.
Sirota's role seems to be relatively minor, and since it looks like his Twitter history has been erased, I think the campaign has an expectation of the tone and words he'll be saying. Hopefully it'll be less inflammatory.
Sirota's role seems to be relatively minor, and since it looks like his Twitter history has been erased, I think the campaign has an expectation of the tone and words he'll be saying. Hopefully it'll be less inflammatory.
Here's the other hires for Sanders campaign today.
- René Spellman, deputy campaign manager, a Bernie 2016 alumna who has also worked in the Obama White House
- Sanalilia Mejia, political director, a union organizer who was honored by President Obama as a "Champion of Change"
- Sarah Badawi, deputy political director, previously the legislative affairs director for the Progressive Change Campaign Committee
- Claire Sandberg, national organizing director, a Bernie 2016 alumna and previously deputy campaign manager for Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan
- Dr. Heather Gautney, deputy director of policy, formerly a senior policy adviser on the U.S. Senate Budget Committee and a researcher for Bernie 2016
- Arianna Jones, communications director, a Bernie 2016 alumna with experience leading media strategy for progressive clients
- Sarah Ford, deputy communications director, another one from the 2016 campaign
- Briahna Joy Gray, national press secretary, a former attorney and senior politics editor at The Intercept
- Georgia Parke, senior social media strategist, who worked in Sen. Sanders' Senate office since 2016
- Robin Curran, digital fundraising director, formerly email director at the Democratic National Committee.
Why is everyone who disagrees with this hire or who doesn't like Bernie a "centrist" (which is apparently a slur now?)
They are a'ok with Sirota being a staunch advocate and supporter of AIPAC and trying to tear down Hillary in the days leading up to the general election.
So that is no surprise.
The irony is he is being called out...from the LEFT for helping elect a Republican! (Not to mention his ties to AIPAC) Yet we are the centrists somehow?
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