And DAs/AGs are a necesssary, important part of the justice system. If you're gonna go full reductionist to "she's a cop", then don't complain about how she "wasn't progressive enough" as one if they're all the same to you.
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2020 Democratic Presidential Primary | OT | Hickenlooper makes it to the debate
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Calling her a cop, which she has called herself before, is a slur and trump. Gotcha.
Wow, what a good faith attempt at having a nuanced conversation.
So you don't understand how the same word can have different connotations in different contexts? Or are you just playing dumb?
Yang thread merge starts here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTsEzmFamZ8
https://www.yang2020.com/
Andrew Yang, on rogans show is promoting his presidential run. he is polling at 1% with Kirsten Gillbrand, and has some phenomenal ideas/and data driven goals on:
- Automation predictions collapsing Retail/Trucking industries.
- Medicare for all
- Freedom Dividend ( $1000/mo for every american to help them cope with the immediate shitty economy that is about to drop in the next 5-11 Years predicted by everyone).
- Student Debt
- Suicide rates
- American life expectancy declining
- Immigration
- UBI for every American over the age of 18.
- and more.
This man wasn't on my Radar at all. But, thought it should be shared. He pretty much takes control of the show... Seems pretty realistic. Dispells all of the "yeah buts.." etc... Its really worth a listen. He pretty much speaks for the entire time, and even has jaimie pulling stuff up. Refreshingly real. Give it a listen before chiming in about basic income and how it wont work etc. It isn't a silver bullet, but his arguments are mathematical.
His strategy though, is to give a pass to the midwest for voting for a racist ( This is my take), and get them on board with his plan for the future of unemployed workers in America. Its compelling. I wish he was on another show, but, eh, yeah, its Rogan.
https://www.yang2020.com/
Andrew Yang, on rogans show is promoting his presidential run. he is polling at 1% with Kirsten Gillbrand, and has some phenomenal ideas/and data driven goals on:
- Automation predictions collapsing Retail/Trucking industries.
- Medicare for all
- Freedom Dividend ( $1000/mo for every american to help them cope with the immediate shitty economy that is about to drop in the next 5-11 Years predicted by everyone).
- Student Debt
- Suicide rates
- American life expectancy declining
- Immigration
- UBI for every American over the age of 18.
- and more.
This man wasn't on my Radar at all. But, thought it should be shared. He pretty much takes control of the show... Seems pretty realistic. Dispells all of the "yeah buts.." etc... Its really worth a listen. He pretty much speaks for the entire time, and even has jaimie pulling stuff up. Refreshingly real. Give it a listen before chiming in about basic income and how it wont work etc. It isn't a silver bullet, but his arguments are mathematical.
His strategy though, is to give a pass to the midwest for voting for a racist ( This is my take), and get them on board with his plan for the future of unemployed workers in America. Its compelling. I wish he was on another show, but, eh, yeah, its Rogan.
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Hahahaha back to truancy / cop thing. That's a funny hamster wheel for those to run to power discontent with her when it's almost entirely based on misinformation that when looked into reveals a competent woman.
Kamala must still be surging ahead.
It's almost like just maybe those interested in and joining her coalition support proper law enforcement.
Kamala must still be surging ahead.
It's almost like just maybe those interested in and joining her coalition support proper law enforcement.
I suggest you read this article i think its pretty fair in showing why though Kamala may have good intentions the law is problematic and how the push for it has led to problematic outcomes in more conservative districts.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/future-perfect/2019/2/7/18202084/kamala-harris-truancy-prosecutor-president-2020
Also its unclear whether truancy laws are the reason for the increased attendance. Also though no one was jailed under Kamala, she pushed for the law and other jurisdictions have acted on it.
From the same place that gives 4 billion to israel yearly, Bails out bankers, makes Aircraft carriers, or just simply loses trillions of dollars. Plus, this money actually goes back into the economy..
As I said, its worth a listen. hold off on hot take about where money comes from, when Amazon pays 0 in federal taxes. It isn't being suggested as a CURE ALL FOR EVERYTHING EVER THEN IT WILL ALL BE PERFECT AFTER THIS.
And I can't stand rogan, but the guy is pretty sharp.
I think Kirblar hit it on the head, the only people who think its outrageous to get involved when a kid skips 100 school days in a school year for non-medical reasons are those who either skipped school or wish they could.
They aren't looking at the issue like an actual you know, adult.
The truancy laws are part of these "structural issues". It is a clear case as any of a law that criminalizes and punishes poverty and dis-privilege.
I get that people like Harris' presidential platform and all but there's no need to go around defending the exact kind of institutional oppression of lower classes we (Dems) rail against in another threads about criminal records, marijuana criminalization, etc.
"It worked for those few cases where it had to be applied."
Short term feel-good gains don't justify the long term consequences of using criminal law as a bludgeon to achieve social conditioning of children.
https://www.seattletimes.com/educat...s-find-that-truancy-petitions-do-little-good/
I actually like this guy from what I've heard of him, but he is definitely a fringe candidate.
Never heard of him but that seems to be a pretty good platform and outline of policies.
I'm voting for Bernie but the more candidates like Yang the better.
I'm voting for Bernie but the more candidates like Yang the better.
It 100% is an issue but you can't solve by further criminalizing it.
He addresses this.
He wants to get the message out to the nation, so that he can hopefully make a better world for his children, so he can look them in the face and say he tried.
Asking where the hell that money would come from is not a "hot take".
The medicare for all is an easy one - but the $1k/month for everyone is absurd and isn't happening.
A living wage would solve so many problems for so many people. All candidates should support it.
He wants to give me free medicare and a free 1000 bucks a month. Like it's almost a no brainer as long as he is not a trump level sociopath.
Haha. That's about right. Calling her a 'cop' as if it's a bad thing seals it.
Kamala should sign an Executive Order to get all kids to school when she's in Office.
Same place as I described above,its like where else does government get money from? Its a nonsense question.
Wow...all of that sounds kind of nice. It always seems folks that try to look out for the common person get bludgeoned with stupid shit from all sides so we will see how he fares. Dig what hes throwing out though
It's a totally sensible question because what you listed either wouldn't come close to covering that, or is not a realistic cut.
Sanders racked up 4 times what Harris did in half the time and with a lower donation per donor ratio so it doesn't seem the case at all
Last I checked bartending doesn't perpetuate white supremacy.
Since when is America about covering anything? 22 trillion dollars of debt... speaks to very well managed finances. I mean, you see where this is going right?
Like i said, its nonsense. In my opinion.
The money is here, its spent on the wealthy. You're acting like this isn't the case. That the civilians aren't being robbed blind by politicians, literally.
Its 30 days you should really read this article i think it may give you some perspective.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...mala-harris-truancy-prosecutor-president-2020
Blaming her for the judgment calls of other, unrelated districts seems unfair to me. Other areas using the program model but screwing up the implementation is on them for not understanding the importance of copying over all aspects. If
The goal isn't solving it strucutraly, it's intervening in extreme cases on behalf of the kids. That intervention will require using that monopoly on violence that Libertarians love to talk about because asking nicely isn't really going to amount to anything, the school would have already tried that.
Calling public education "Social conditioning of Children" is absolutely ridiculous when not having a high school diiploma is directly associated with far worse employment and life outcomes down the line for those who fall out of the system.
Letting white supremacists take all the DA positions will perpetuate white supremacy.
Where I see this going is almost nobody, even on the left, agreeing to something that isn't feasible at all. Medicare for all is one thing, and a realistically attainable goal - but the $1k/month for everyone thing isn't going to happen.
I'm not sure how highlighting that a country has massive debts to repay is a good counterpoint to dismiss inquiries into the feasability of somebody's budget, a budget which could significantly increase debt if not well financed.
yeah weird it's almost like he has an enormous national email list from 3 years ago
Truancy laws and court orders and fines and criminal records are not "public education".
Either you're intentionally misinterpreting my point, which is annoying but understandable in so far as forum rhetoric is concerned, or you actually think criminal law is a reasonable part of the public education system.
When Copmala wins the primary on Supercalifragilistic Tuesday, tbh her being a Copmala probably becomes an asset.
Sanders had a nationally established base that was ready to support him and supported him well.
Harris at her launch was by comparison an unknown nationally. That she did as well as she did and set such a high standard as to be compared to is incredible.
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