As a Texan who really wanted to see Cruz crash and burn, I grew to really like Beto, but nah.
2020 Democratic Presidential Primary | OT | Hickenlooper makes it to the debate
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It's an urgent situation in 2019 and him not showing for that vote is, imo, disqualifying. That doesn't mean it has to be your issue but that also doesn't mean it's not important.
It ended up being three votes shy of passing.
You all need to define "better", because all I'm seeing is bias by the usual posters who are still angry about 2016 lol.
In disappointed in his vote this week regarding funding the government and she should’ve been public with his support of Omar.
That said, he is still by far the one I prefer the most.
In an interview with the breakfast club AOC said (semi-joking) not to ask her about endorsements until the day of the NY primary. I suspect that's around the time she'll make an endorsement.
That might not even be it. Even if she didn't plan to endorse, that's a good move, as it means that she'll get a ton of free air time from people wanting her to endorse on their show.
If Bernie was there, it would
So why are you so hyperfocused on a non-issue?
This is how most socialists, communists and anarchists I know think. Few of them seem to actually like Bernie but...theres no real room to choose
Yeah I am supper disappointed on his vote this week. From a moral point of view and from a strategic point of view. He makes really dumb decisions sometimes that could have been easily avoidable.
Good speech from Biden. Strong support for NATO. Some comments on American leadership and American politics including immigration, tariffs and Paris Agreement. He made an effort to make a distinction between the problem with Russian leadership(calling them a kleptocracy) and American support for the Russian people. He's still waiting to say if he's going to announce.
Won’t keep others from saying we’re in a Bernie cult, though.
Agreed.
I don't understand why would you care what communists and anarchists think.
god, Biden is just the worst.
It will be impossible for him to survive his own baggage. From criticizing HW for not being hard enough with the war on drugs to the Anita Hill hearings, what a dumpster fire of a candidate. He is also very active in terms of supporting Israel and their problematic (to put it mildly) conflicts, which should be an instant disqualification for any democrat.
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Bernie and Warren would pick up on it but be a little more palatable to your average Dem viewer.
Harris and Gillibrand would be open to it but with a lot of asterisks and caveats.
The rest would reject it outright.
https://www.yang2020.com/what-is-ubi/
His implementation of UBI would come at the detriment of social and welfare programs. The VAT is a regressive form of taxation that will further disproportionately affect the poor. It's really a non-starter.
UBI can be good or bad depending on implementation. I would really doubt Bernie or Warren would be in favor of this specific one.
https://twitter.com/EmersonPolling/status/1096895391885393921
Not good for Bernie, he and Biden are the most well known and he’s barely ahead of Trump
I give pastors a little more leeway because they might actually be tied to communities where they are historically integral members (like MLK, if he survived and ran for president). "Spiritual" stuff is always garbage.
Everyone not Biden are under the margin of error. I know that you are singling out Bernie due to your running obsession, but yeah worrisome numbers for Democrats overall.
I’m singling our Bernie because he and Biden are the most well known candidates and therefore have the least upside from their current numbers. I would have mentioned Biden too if he was about even with Trump, but he’s not.
I mean the stuff you're listing is almost 30 years old. Outside the living memory of a lot of Democratic 2020 voters.
Wouldn't the whole point of UBI to cover all the stuff welfare would in the first place? As far as I'm aware it's meant to cover food and housing and the things we need to survive.
If there is an age limit set at 35, I think there should be one set at 70
The idea if the Primaries and the general get fought by 70 year olds is quite
The idea if the Primaries and the general get fought by 70 year olds is quite
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Of course UBI would come with a VAT. It is not regressive to levy a tax that applies to rich and poor to pay for a program that will disproportionately benefit the poor. That is literally how every non-petrodollar welfare state in the world is funded. Calling this regressive indicates you don’t understand the point of the criticism. Any meaningful transfer program will involve regressive taxation.
Come on. Seriously?
I think independent candidates always poll better than they actually perform, at least.
I think independent candidates always poll better than they actually perform, at least.
Yeah, it's virtually impossible to create a tax system that's completely progressive because you simply don't have wide enough of a tax base.
Really liked this speech, his head is certainly in the right place in terms of foreign policy. However, I’m under the impression that he will leave a lot of democrats disappointed in his lack of vision toward domestic, progressive policy, and campaigning against a nationalist president will naturally draw debate toward his weaker area. I think he could make a solid Secretary of State for someone like Harris though, or at least her nominating him to that would increase my confidence in her outlook on foreign policy.
It just once again confirms that Schultz is the best chance Trump has of being re-elected. This isn't even the first poll to show this. But then you get people saying the polls are wrong because it goes against their belief that the populace are yearning for certain policies and aren't so shallow as to follow a brand. There isn't any revolution, people are just fadists.Come on. Seriously?
I think third parties always poll better than they actually perform, at least.
According to five thirty eight, Emerson is one of the least biased pollsters
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/
Not to mention this isn't the only poll to show this. Optimus did a poll(They have a very slight 1% R lean according to 538), and came to the same conclusion that Biden is the only one who can win against Trump with Schultz in the mix.
In either case, just more proof that Schultz can flip the race in Trump's favor. It's making me warm on Biden even if he's one of the last candidates that I'd prefer to win.
I'm basically just hoping the inevitable next recession coincides with the next election. Because that would be the thing that kills Trump's polling enough that Schultz can't spoil things.
Same, it happening under a Dem, whether it's Bernie or Harris or even Biden would be absolutely disastrous for Dems politically.
She lost me when she was asked in another interview what her strategy for winning was and she flat out said that she didn't have/believe in one. She also keeps going on about America needing a 'spiritual awakening'.
To me, she comes across as a pastor in politicians clothing. When she comes up with something more substantive, I'll take her more seriously.
In this sense Dukakis and the dems actually lucked out in 1988 because HW"s recession was basically what sank his reelection.
It sucks a lot when I consider the effects of the timing of large events, wars, terrorist attacks, recessions, disasters on politics.
Like really people are just so dumb and nearsighted.
I agree that I would have liked to have seen him be more vocal in his support right away. But after she apologized... it would have been a total mistake to relitigate the situation.
That's not likely.
I love Grandpa Joe. Seeing Obama stumping for him is going to bring a tear to my eye.
He beats Trump, maybe gets 2 SC picks, and after that, I can go back go being largely uninterested in politics.
He beats Trump, maybe gets 2 SC picks, and after that, I can go back go being largely uninterested in politics.
This was one of the three parts of the argument for the "the psychopathic ice cold killer Dem strategist only interested in maximizing their own party's power would want Hillary to lose narrowly" - negative enthusiasm, 2020 redistricting going favoring the GOP being a disaster, and a likely recession in the 2017-2020 range.
Yeah, this is the same fundamental problem as Bernie's 2016 answer to "How will you get the political vote #s you need to do this in terms of both raw votes and won seats? "being "A REVOLUTION!"
Obama got an overwhelming number of house seats, senate seats, popular votes and EC votes and look at what the hell happened in '09/'10. Your plan has to account for the friction of actual reality, not the unnatural ideal physics of a textbook.
And Melkr's not trolling here.
The lesson of Trump and the resurgence of facsism is that if you let your guard down and stop caring, that shit will come back because those racist, xenophobic asshats? They do care about politics. In fact, they're obsessed with it.
I 100% believe that Biden will carry the Midwest states, so no, not even remotely similar.
I don't think they were addressing the Biden aspect but the "going back to not caring about politics" part
Polls of the election at this point is so ridiculous to take too seriously, not to mention "independents" are notoriously difficult to figure out even during campaigns. I think assuming anything is set in stone and deciding a candidate based on that right now is just absurd, especially when we just had a Presidential election where the candidate who was supposed to blow Trump out of the water, well, did not do that. Support people based on their policies and vision for the future and let a primary shake the rest out like it's supposed to.
The issue is that it's framed as either the money or social/welfare program. What happens in reality is that social programs will be cut. But the poorest and most vulnerable will end up benefitting the least when they need the most help.
What's wrong with the idea of using a wealth tax or an income tax to fund it?
Shouldn't have to reduce the already meager 1000/month by a VAT.
https://medium.com/@KJ_Jeller/redis...roposal-has-serious-shortcomings-719b8abafc1c
Despite all this, it's about time for someone to bring up the idea to the national stage.
The Green New Deal had incredibly bad wording in the Draft FAQ.
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