Dovere of The Atlantic is an excellent reporter. No reason to doubt this. This is shady awful behavior from a campaign.
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2020 Democratic Presidential Primary | OT | Hickenlooper makes it to the debate
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Wait, are you talking about Bill? Or Hillary's campaign staffer?
I'm talking about Hillary dismissing the accusations against Bill.
New CNN poll was released:
Joe Biden: 28%
Bernie Sanders: 20%
Kamala Harris: 12%
Beto O'Rourke: 11%
Elizabeth Warren: 6%
Every other candidate is polling below John Kerry so... probably not worth typing up their numbers.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/poli...Feed:+rss/cnn_latest+(RSS:+CNN+-+Most+Recent)
Joe Biden: 28%
Bernie Sanders: 20%
Kamala Harris: 12%
Beto O'Rourke: 11%
Elizabeth Warren: 6%
Every other candidate is polling below John Kerry so... probably not worth typing up their numbers.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/poli...Feed:+rss/cnn_latest+(RSS:+CNN+-+Most+Recent)
Oh and in addition to those who thought maybe she voted Bernie as write instead of Putin shill Jill Stein...
Yup. If Harris did this I'd be ready to dismiss her in an instant.
It was specific. Couple of my thoughts:
- Beto should put up detailed policies on a website
- I think the Sirota's of the Bernie camp will ignore it, and make up shit about Beto and support it with butchered, out of context quotes or cherry picked data
Amazing! Bernies outreach is bringing third party voters into the fold!
Yeah people said the exact same thing about Hillary, whether Sanders supporters or Trump supporters (and the overlap between those two).
It's a cheap talking point reserved exclusively for people you don't like. Of fucking course Beto has policies. In fact nothing he said in that clip is particularly new.
LOL and? Hillary was beating Trump in polls until she wasn't...he lost the nomination by MILLIONS of votes. But sure lol...
If Beto or Kamala did this I would swear them off immediately. This is blatant corruption from the top of the campaign.
Inexcusable.
Inexcusable.
This is selective outrage and dismissing it as misogyny is disingenuous. What she did is part of the package. Is what she did to accusers or how she protected her adviser worse? If you want move on, change topics and move on.
I notice you ignore the damning report of corruption in the campaign that The Atlantic s reporting on. Care to comment?
Here it is again:
I wish I had a clear favorite candidate so that I'd know which campaign to try intern for this summer.
Lmao, anyone wanna tell me who to support?
Lmao, anyone wanna tell me who to support?
I believe Broaddrick. I didn't learn about her until the end of the campaign (I was young in the 90s) when another credibly accused rapist, Donald Trump, tried to use her story to deflect from his own accusations.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...a-broaddrick-wants-to-be-believed#.cvXJMeDyax
https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick
And I think it is valid and important to hold enablers like Hillary Clinton accountable. And her marriage or her love for rapist Bill Clinton doesn't stop her from being that, an enabler. I am still sickened from 2016 when we had to choose which rapist to put in the White House. The non-nazi rapist was the correct choice, but that it was a choice at all makes me mad.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...a-broaddrick-wants-to-be-believed#.cvXJMeDyax
https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick
And I think it is valid and important to hold enablers like Hillary Clinton accountable. And her marriage or her love for rapist Bill Clinton doesn't stop her from being that, an enabler. I am still sickened from 2016 when we had to choose which rapist to put in the White House. The non-nazi rapist was the correct choice, but that it was a choice at all makes me mad.
Bernie, Buttigieg, Warren (she'll probably flame out though)
Maybe Beto.
Bernie's probably good if you want to get involved with DSA-type people since that's his support base.
Buttigieg could use the help and I think he's going to be big in the future, you could get your foot in the door so to speak.
Warren is like Bernie but more "proper".
I dont know a thing about who Sirota is so I dont have anything to say.
I am curious what you think of this Atlantic report of corruption in the Bernie campaign.
This Bernie speechwriter thing is a non issue yall.
Hilarious how hard you guys go on the tiniest shit.
lol CORRUPTION
Hilarious how hard you guys go on the tiniest shit.
lol CORRUPTION
Nah, theres not much to be serious about. Nobodys gonna flip allegiances when we are 11 months away from Iowa, so at this point the primary is just a spectator sport.
Real talk if I had to name any one person to be president today (independent of anything related to campaigns, downticket trends etc, simply the person who'd be the best at the day-to-day job of being president) I'd pick Kerry.
The article explains it pretty damn well and why it shows severe corruption on the part of Bernie himself and the campaign. Maybe read about it instead of dismissing it?
I don't really care. I don't have a burning hatred of Sirota like the rest of you, but if it seems prudent to sack him Bernie should.
We don't have hard evidence yet, but given the articles that Sirota has posted historically, it's extremely plausible.
Bernie's supporters supported Hillary more frequently than Hillary's supporters supported Obama in 2008.
That has nothing do with why this article is showing corruption in the campaign. The article isnt "hey Sirota is bad". It's clear you didnt even look at the tweet....come on man.
It is about the fact Sirota was hired by the campaign and wrote speeches and the campaign kept it secret the entire time so he could continue to write articles for websites trashing the other candidates.
And they only announced it today because The Atlantic figured it out.
I thought the John Kerry thing was a joke but he's literally in the poll lol
You could help with voter registration instead of a candidate if you can't choose.
"these people quite literally hate democracy"
"as a journalist"
Yeah, like a journalist for Breitbart.
And the concern is just handwaved away by the Sanders campaign manager when it should be looked into and addressed.
If he's interning I'm going to guess he wants experience in the political machine and not just for general volunteer work (which is still good). That's what I assumed anyhow.
I aint dismissing anything, I just dont feel well informed enough to engage people about it who are gonna know more. Thus Im not engaging with the discussion.
Again, I'd vote for any of the candidates in the general, but a huge reason why I favor Beto over Bernie is that Beto has humility. He plays clean. When he talks to people, he is cordial and honest. He has the ability to convey his point of view to middle America on things like NFL players kneeling without coming off as a dick to them or hurting their feelings. That's the kind of temperament that gets independents and the silent Republicans that are disgusted with Trump to vote Democrat. Hiring propaganda writers that fling shit that isn't even true does the opposite. You don't win over undecided voters with that mentality. Beto's personality is exactly what a lot of people want right now in Trump's America. They want a presidential president.
No you wouldn't
This is playing politics.
Bernie taking the kid gloves off
Whoop de freaking doo. Wake me up when people are taking about the unethical policies endemic to capitalism.
He's fine if a bit boring, but I was moreso making the point that they're polling behind someone who I believe has already declined to run.
You can be informed by reading the article. You don't want to know about what amounts to corruption from within the campaign you are supporting. Lying to the press?
I am sure you'd have the exact same reaction if it was Kamala hiring people and lying to the press about it and keeping it secret and allowing the hire to pretend to be a journalist for months to attack her political enemies from within the press.
Same exact reaction.
So Bernie saying they would remain above board and not go negative was a lie. We can all agree on this now. Is anyone willing to deny this?
He hired Sirota MONTHS ago. Kept it secret and lied to press about it. Let him pretend to be a journalist and go scorched earth on Kamala and Beto for the campaign on the campaigns payroll.
He hired Sirota MONTHS ago. Kept it secret and lied to press about it. Let him pretend to be a journalist and go scorched earth on Kamala and Beto for the campaign on the campaigns payroll.
Yes because my opinion of Harris is based on who she hires and not her history of being part of that institution of minority oppression colloquially referred to as "the cops", as well as her authoritative and punitive attitude towards law enforcement.
You know stuff that actually hurts people.
Tfw freaking Kerry is beating Booker
But yeah, polling will change drastically as the year progresses
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