I'd agree with that. Not a big fan of Booker and he hasn't impressed me much but he was also excellent last night in that regard.
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2020 Presidential Democratic Primary Debate V |OT| All Coastal Elite Wrestling
- Thread starter Bronx-Man
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In what way was he "pretty terrible"? He just didn't seem to get many opportunities to speak. When he did, he ranged from fine to good.
I can't say I was surprised. So long as he's beating his stump speech people who like Bernie will think he did great. The biggest negatives from him flew under the radar last night in the larger public, anyway. He outright lied about consistently getting an F rating from the NRA when he has a D- and other people on that stage score 8%, and tied wage stagnation to free trade agreements instead of Reagan's tax reforms, technology, and the internet (Like, do you really think manufacturing wouldn't be mostly automated by this point anyway if it wasn't offshored? Do you really think wage growth would've been better without nafta?). What the public didn't like about him are things that don't matter to his base.
He had a bigger percentage drop than Biden. That is not doing well when you're struggling to hold on to second.
And people were really trying to say that Warren did bad last night.
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It's the third debate. People wanting to form their decisions on debate performance have gotten a pretty good taste by now. This debate barely matters and future debates will matter even less. Calling Biden the winner by default is weird because it assumes that this debate was very important for bringing him down, when it's really not.
We're in a period where very little is likely to change the polls. Everyone who's way into politics made up their minds after the first debate, and everyone not so addicted to politics aren't going to start paying attention until Iowa votes, except for Iowans who'll start paying attention 2-4 weeks before they vote.
And Iowa is still 20 weeks away. Biden losing just .5% of his lead per week alone would be enough to put him nationally behind even before Iowa votes.
We're in a period where very little is likely to change the polls. Everyone who's way into politics made up their minds after the first debate, and everyone not so addicted to politics aren't going to start paying attention until Iowa votes, except for Iowans who'll start paying attention 2-4 weeks before they vote.
And Iowa is still 20 weeks away. Biden losing just .5% of his lead per week alone would be enough to put him nationally behind even before Iowa votes.
Op ed pieces stay being trash
Biden, Harris and Klobuchar won lmao
Yeah I knew it sounded familiar. This and the record playing thing. His mind is in the 20th century when it comes to child-rearing.
It kind of works. Warren is the "know it all" with the plans and references, Beto with the courage and spirit, Pete, well, that works a little less I guess, the kind you'd want on your team, but not to lead, he'd be a loyal friend.
"Biden won by turning in a relatively strong and steady performance."
Literally the opposite of what happened.
The other candidates are pretty much guaranteeing that Biden is going to win the nomination by collectively going after him tooth and nail. It's the same exact shit that won Trump the nomination. All you're doing is making him the focus of each debate, allowing him to come off as the victim, and failing to give voters a look into who you are and what you represent. If you do sway voters, it'll likely be those that already don't support Biden, and in a field this big - you'll have a bunch of candidates splitting votes while Biden secures the nomination easily.
marianne is professor trelawney obviously
bernie is hagrid obviously
biden is lucius malfoy and his record is dobby which has now been given a sock
delaney and his odd facial expressions is obviously BARTY CROUCH JUNIOOOR
that's all I've got except that yang as either fred or george seems disrespectful to fred and george
bernie is hagrid obviously
biden is lucius malfoy and his record is dobby which has now been given a sock
delaney and his odd facial expressions is obviously BARTY CROUCH JUNIOOOR
that's all I've got except that yang as either fred or george seems disrespectful to fred and george
That's why Warren isn't doing it. She of all people in this race has a reason to go after him, but she doesn't. And that's why she is rising in the polls.
People hear her vision and like it.
Something I don't understand from last night: Bernie had gotten through the gun section without a question being posed to him. It was a gift, he didn't need to walk around his record on it or anything, but then he steps into it saying he consistently has an F grade with the NRA when he's D-? Like why? All he had to do was not comment. But I guess no one confronted him on it, so...-
Biden's numbers continue to be on the decline while Warren and Bernie go up. I still think it's too early. We'll have a better idea if this is true around the end of November I think
Bernie actually went down after last night in 538's poll more than Biden did and in the average of polls he's been flat since... Forever. Biden's been ebbing between 26-30 for the most part in the average of polls and not really consistently down. Warren's the only one consistently going up.
Go Warren.
But yeah my point being, Biden isn't really gaining any ground, if anything, as time passes it seems more like an even battleground. As others drops, it doesn't seem as likely those votes will go to Biden, but I guess we'll see.
Warren is heavily a second choice so I hope most go to her.
I watch the debate and Im a bit unsure how American healthcare works,
From my understanding
Bernie, Warren, yang and some others are for "medicare for all" which is basically like the UK NHS? Where everyone can get healthcare at zero cost?
Biden wants private health insurance to stay and people can opt into Obamacare for a cheap price? What happens if people can't afford Obamacare?
What is trumps healthcare, the current USA healthcare system, what happens to people who can't afford healthcare?
From my understanding
Bernie, Warren, yang and some others are for "medicare for all" which is basically like the UK NHS? Where everyone can get healthcare at zero cost?
Biden wants private health insurance to stay and people can opt into Obamacare for a cheap price? What happens if people can't afford Obamacare?
What is trumps healthcare, the current USA healthcare system, what happens to people who can't afford healthcare?
People need to read through Yang's policies and listen to what he says. Compared to most other candidates they seem so myopic and unable to see what is coming. We need to start thinking ahead and not just about ourselves. Yang won't win or get anywhere but years from now people will suddenly remember all the things he had to say.
Just cause he's a smart man and has good ideas doesn't mean he should be president.
There are other ways to enact change and/or bring attention to problems besides going straight to "run for President".
First off, why not start at the house, or at senate?
Yes, I get it would be good for him to run for a lower office if he can't be president, but what else is more important than having your head on right and having good ideas? You want him to be cool and have the personality? You want him to have some sort of experience in a public office first?
I feel like he demonstrates his personality when he doesn't feel the need to interrupt others and keeps to himself until asked. When he is asked a question he actually answers it straight forward. None of this matters to most people because people suck ass.
they want a dipshit who is full of himself yelling over others saying all the things they want to hear and actually doing none of them.
Scrolling down to the author's bio: no fewer than four different conservative thinktanks, and author of books like "The Working Class Republican: Ronald Reagan and the Return of Blue-Collar Conservatism." A wonder his piece focuses on who he thinks is best for "Reagan Democrats" and "Trump Democrats." (And ignores how his hypothetical Biden-Klobuchar ticket would fare with the party as a whole.)
Technically, the NHS isn't zero cost, but that aside, let's look at the netherlands. Technically entirely private insurance, but even if you can't pay your insurance can't drop you. A public option would work similarly.
Warren really seems pretty excellently positioned. She's right up there but not quite the frontrunner so she's not getting massive scrutiny or attacks. She seems to be gaining every time people see her. If she can snag a bunch of the beginning states she could really pick up some steam and knock Biden's electability narrative down a notch or two with it.
He campaigned on repealing/replacing Obamacare/ACA. He has thus far been unable to do so because they (GOP) never thought up of a replacement and too many people are reliant on ACA who are also Republican voters to risk pissing them off.
Private insurance, either out of pocket or through your employer.
ACA, which you sign up and pay for but a lot less than private, I think?
Medicaid, which is like ACA but older, administered partially on the state level (every state's Medicaid is a little different and isn't transferrable across states iirc), covers more but has more strings attached (income, overall health, etc).
Medicare, which is the "everything is covered" but only available to seniors/disability, there's still some payment there, the metrics are different from Medicaid, it's possible to be on both Medicaid and Medicare and it is generally better if you are
There's also Veteran's Affairs health whatever the hell it is they do, for veterans only.
Emergency rooms are, I think, by law, obligated to treat you, regardless of your ability to pay. Paying for said treatment involves either going into crippling debt or begging on GoFundMe. Some people also simply eschew healthcare entirely because they're afraid of the debt, and sometimes those people just die.
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I'm glad to have her as a Senator, but in the Presidential primary... she's staking out the "very moderate" lane dominated by Biden, and I don't know how she differentiates herself enough to grab any of that pie. And there's two other women Senators, one of them also a former state AG, sharing that stage. Her one liners last night were pretty hokey.
I think I would like her outside of running for President, tbh, she just doesn't seem prepared and her "don't forget the middle, guys" and "we are a team" is just blah to campaign on.
I agree. I don't hate her or anything but she said "a house divided against itself cannot stand" like it was a mic drop moment lmao
Get out of here
Medicare:
Don't forget children under 18 receive Medicare.
Veteran's health care varies from state to state. I am in San Francisco, and the VA is ran by UCSF, so I am receiving good health care.
She is also better at explaining specifics and details than Bernie
Thank u.
I'm glad I don't live in America. This system sounds awful.
Is bernie going for "Medicaid for all" or medicare for all"?
*can if they meet certain conditions.
Also, Medicare doesn't really cover everything. Technically medicare as it stands isn't very good and requires supplement plans to work out. Medicaid is generally better.
I mean, in name medicare for all, in practice Medicare's not the greatest so what you'd need to use would be entirely different.
I still don't get where the popular notion that she wasn't charismatic even came from. She's one of the most charismatic politicians I've ever witnessed second really only to Obama in my opinion. Truthfully.
Medicare for all. It will, ideally, squish ACA/Medicaid/Medicare into the same universal health plan while barring private insurance from competing on the same services but apparently they don't intend to roll Veteran Affairs Health into it or Indian Health Service (which is the system for indigenous people).
It is a MESS and another problem we have on top is that there's a giant industry dedicated to helping people and companies navigate this mess so now there's people whose livelihoods depend on the system continuing to stay broken.
She really has that folksy midwestern vibe that can appeal to anyone in how she talks but I guess that doesn't matter because she's "coastal elite" and a woman or whatever.
what was the racist joke that got op banned? i couldn't see any
oh and is this debate up anywhere
oh and is this debate up anywhere
I'm disabled and have medicare, and unfortunately it doesn't cover 100%. Some stuff it doesn't cover at all, and others it covers a partial amount. Medicaid used to cover the rest, but I make a little over the $1,100ish limit.
Also, they take a chunk of your Social Security deposit every month for insurance. I am eligible for around $750 each month, but $200 of that is taken out for insurance.
I am very lucky I don't have to pay rent exclusively with disability.