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Nirolak

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Highlights:
  • This year at E3, Take-Two's 2K division (so excluding Rockstar and Private Division) had a booth with zero games in it. (This happened because Borderlands 3 got delayed at the last minute and they knew no one would come see NBA or WWE). 2K does not intend to repeat this event.
  • 2K intends to fix this by growing significantly. First they detailed three pillars of their strategy, and then gave a bunch of specifics.
  • Pillar 1: More Games - They're going to make a lot more games, both internally and with existing their long term partners.
  • Pillar 2: More Resources - They're going to notably increase the size of their internal studios and start working with new external partners.
  • Pillar 3: Games as a Service - They want all their games to be long term experiences that have events and grow and change over time.
  • Afterwards, 2K detailed some specifics about all of the above.
  • Firaxis is making a New IP. They will also keep making Civilization and XCOM games.
  • WWE is going to get significantly more investment. If you're wondering why, NBA2K went from a 2-3 million franchise to a 9+ million copy franchise after they started heavily investing in quality year after year.
  • 2K is aware that there aren't a lot of large scale independent studios that are still alive, so they are also looking to partner with mid-sized independent studios who have had success, but now want to expand into making AAA titles.
  • 2K is also looking to expand heavily in both mobile and China.
  • 2K is interested in both expanding into genres they're not currently working in, and in offering more games in genres they're already working in. They're open to almost any idea as long as they think it's a good idea with a good team behind it.
  • 2K feels it's important to do this as it's hard to meaningfully grow their business with just the games they have.
Source: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-07-23-2ks-light-slate-belies-bigger-ambitions
 

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I'll never be able to distinguish Take-Two and 2k. Even worse that one of them is subsidiary to the other
 
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WWE is going to get significantly more investment. If you're wondering why, NBA2K went from a 2-3 million franchise to a 9+ million copy franchise after they started heavily investing in quality year after year.

So more microtransaction stuff?

I'd love to believe it was getting a real worthwhile overhaul but people have been telling me pigs fly for years and I've never seen one

GaaS done well is great and should be something series should strive for, but I just can't imagine 2K doing it well


More games is always good though
 

Phamit

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I wonder if they going to drop Yukes or just invest more in that studio for the WWE games
 

NegroNinja

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So those this mean that they will finally fix NBA2k? Or will it be the same old micro transaction grindfest bullshit?
 

Valkrai

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I want to believe that the WWE games will change but they need to get rid of Yukes first if they want that. Is this also acknowledgment of those games being cheap and low budget?

I'm curious too if this is a response to WWE supposedly being unhappy with the 2K18 Switch handling.
 

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I'll never be able to distinguish Take-Two and 2k. Even worse that one of them is subsidiary to the other
forget about take-two since that's basically just the business part. 2k Games is the publisher brand who's putting out games. 2k Games(or 2k Sports when relevant) and Rockstar. That's all you need to remember^^
 

Kida

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Hopefully they'll create a new studio for WWE. I have very little faith that they can ever improve the quality of Yukes' output.
 

Soap

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WWE investment works for me. I used to love wresting games and then I went and tried 2k17 on gamepass and holy fuck was it bad.
 

Zukkoyaki

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This sounds pretty great. Glad they recognized how minimal their output has gotten lately and are making moves to fix that. Their catalogue of IP is actually pretty strong and they've proven they can really deliver in the past.

Also sounds like they're going to be taking some more risks rather than sticking with what's already working. Really looking forward to the new Firaxis IP and the presumed new IP at Hangar 13.
 

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Many of those things are pretty needed. For Take Two to have more success they really need to have more releases both with 2K and Rockstar along other methods as well because those two publishers have very few releases per year.

So those this mean that they will finally fix NBA2k? Or will it be the same old micro transaction grindfest bullshit?

No, there's no relation
 

Jmille99

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I hope they do fucking ANYTHING to improve these WWE games. I think the last ones I fully enjoyed were back on the PS2.
 

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I sincerely would love to purchase a WWE game but year after year they disappoint. I rent them every year to try it and it's always a convoluted mess. Just give me a fun wrestling game that's simple to play with kick ass presentation and story mode. Stop all this "sim" bullshit.
 

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I haven't played a WWE game in years but if they gave Yukes enough time and actual money do you think they could make a far better game ? Or they just inherently bad at making WWE games ? How I wish Aki still made them :( (I know they're under a different name making games like Style Savvy)
 

kenta

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Interested to see how this pans out. 2K has always struck me as a middle-of-the-road publisher who haven't really figured themselves out (aside from their sports franchises)
 

JehutyRunner

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WWE is going to get significantly more investment. If you're wondering why, NBA2K went from a 2-3 million franchise to a 9+ million copy franchise after they started heavily investing in quality year after year.

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Hope

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As long as this means they partnering with yaeger again for spec ops 2 iam happy.
 

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I hope that the WWE investment pans out, I want that series to finally get better after years of stagnation.
 
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Nirolak

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Everybody wants that Ubisoft money but if you aim at the king...
*Stauss Zelnick walks in room*

Zelnick: He's got a big issue. I don't have that problem. We are a global business, but we're not that big. We have 4,200 people. We have 17 studio locations. It's not that far-flung. We're still able to get our arms around it.

GamesBeat: I recall from Ubi that they have 14,000 people now.

Zelnick: They have 14,000 people, and their revenue is less than ours. We don't understand it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ventur...ck-im-charged-with-making-hard-decisions/amp/
 

Kunka Kid

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It'd be awesome if they really made some noticeable positive changes to the WWE franchise.

I'll believe it when I see it though.
 

Eolz

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  • WWE is going to get significantly more investment. If you're wondering why, NBA2K went from a 2-3 million franchise to a 9+ million copy franchise after they started heavily investing in quality year after year.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Put a good team on it like the NBA 2K one instead of Yuke's doing the same thing since years and marketing it as a revolution.
 

Vicious17

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So, are they taking Yuke's off WWE?

Im not sure any amount of money will actually make those games "good" as long as Yuke's is making them.
 

spad3

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They should start doing genre swap crossovers:

XCOM + Evolve
GTA + Civ
Borderlands + Evolve
Borderlands + XCOM
Battleborn + XCOM
Bioshock + GTA
Red Dead + Tropico

Like that would be such a great way to expand game universes if done properly.
 

Tagyhag

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  • WWE is going to get significantly more investment. If you're wondering why, NBA2K went from a 2-3 million franchise to a 9+ million copy franchise after they started heavily investing in quality year after year.

Yeah, take it away from Yuke's and we'll see.
 

SkyMasterson

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Finally getting aki on board.
Would be amazing.

Also, bringing back No Mercy would be sweet.

It's about fucking time they do something though. I mentioned No Mercy, but they need to work with WWE and make an old school title(like Wrestlefest), which still plays well today.

Expand the fucking brand. Make a beat em up game, like THQ did with WWF Betrayal.
Imagine a game with Final Fight graphics, featuring Braun Strowman, Taker, Cena, Orton, Nicholas. Would be fucking awesome. If it wasn't a cheap cash in, I would bet it would sell pretty well and help expand the brand.
 

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I'm not going to lie. I've grown attached to how awful the wwe 2k games have been. They're easily some of the funniest games to play. That being said, having a wrestling game thats good an not named fire wrestling pro would be cool too.
 

Brix

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The lighting looks like a nice upgrade from last years Nba2k compared to this year.

But are these big changes happening to the wwe games this year? I'm a huge wrestling fan but those games haven't been good since '14.
 

sibarraz

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I have heard an overhaul on WWE games sice at least smackdown 2009, and I'm still waiting for it
 

Cyclopsfire21

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How do they feel about their relationship with Sony? They seem keen on marketing side would like to see it follow the dev/pub side.

Also Agent on PS5.
 

Vicious17

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Would be amazing.

Also, bringing back No Mercy would be sweet.

It's about fucking time they do something though. I mentioned No Mercy, but they need to work with WWE and make an old school title(like Wrestlefest), which still plays well today.

Expand the fucking brand. Make a beat em up game, like THQ did with WWF Betrayal.
Imagine a game with Final Fight graphics, featuring Braun Strowman, Taker, Cena, Orton, Nicholas. Would be fucking awesome. If it wasn't a cheap cash in, I would bet it would sell pretty well and help expand the brand.


Hire this man!
 
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Nirolak

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The lighting looks like a nice upgrade from last years Nba2k compared to this year.

But are these big changes happening to the wwe games this year? I'm a huge wrestling fan but those games haven't been good since '14.
It's presumably going to be a long and slow process.