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300K + sign petition for Disney to rehire James Gunn for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
- Thread starter ZattMurdock
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LMFAO. No. That's not what this is about, also, get better "sources". This is about Alan Horn and higher ups, NOT Pratt. Pratt is on Gunn's side, like literally all the GOTG cast and probably the vast majority of Marvel Studios.
It may not die down but the petition is parking up the wrong tree. They could print out every signature and air drop it on the Marvel Studios office on the lot in Burbank, but that won't change anything since the decision came from higher than Feige.
If true, wtf?
I've never liked Pratt, comes off as a douche bag, but c'mon.
Ok. I'm not trying to start shit. No need for the attitude. I was just shocked to have heard it. I felt it also aligned with Pratt's cryptic tweet.
It's going to be more indirect. If journalists see that the petition is a big deal, they'll keep talking about this--if only for the clicks alone. But more articles means more badpress for Disney.
I can't imagine Pratt of all people would try to sink the director of his breakout film.
Looks like it was taken directly from a Facebook post by Sienkiewicz: https://www.facebook.com/bill.sienkiewicz.18/posts/1733113773392038
Weird I guess that explains his vague Tweet I mean people have interpretations that it' for support but it's not really as overt. Even Zoe's statement which is also fairly vague still says she supports the GOTG family plus was apparently a friend of Gunn so it makes sense she wants to support him.
It would be funny that the man we were hoping would be his savior might end up being the gatekeeper to all this. Of course if it ends up being true which as of this point no one knows if it is.
Probably not true, but it's believable given Pratt's religious background. But I don't see him as that kind of dude, him and Gunn seemed to have a great working relationship. So you never know, those kind of jokes might not have sat well with Pratt.
So what, does someone at Disney have a beef with Gunn and just using this as an excuse to fire him?
What were some other rumours that guy told you that turned out to be true?
I'm shocked he said anything at all. It's Chris "Let's hear out Candace Owens" Pratt.
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I agree wholeheartedly with you. This came from Alan Horn or Robert Iger. It came from the top echelon, but in my opinion, the "petition" is just a physical manifestation of James Gunn's support. The fact is that public opinion is obviously on Gunn's side once more people get informed by the situation and speak up.
EW has summed up well on their latest update:
Source: http://ew.com/movies/2018/07/23/jam...ekly&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social
If his tweet wasn't hinting enough, look at Pratt's likes on Twitter:
It's clear that they are all standing together for Gunn.
Pratt is a life-long comedian. He's made some pretty scandalous jokes on Parks and Rec and elsewhere (the Cum-back story, for instance). If for some reason Pratt is being a gatekeeper, I doubt it has to do with these tweets.
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Like ManaByte and others here, I do have my own sources. This is a developing story with an unpredictable outcome. This is uncharted territory, and I honestly don't think Disney will be able to ignore it. The PR nightmare will keep getting worse.
All I'm saying is that it's irresponsible - for any source mind you - to predict the outcome here. This is an incredibly hard situation and arguably Disney and Hollywood's biggest crisis of the literal century, way bigger than #MeToo and made by a pair of alt-right trolls. This situation is far far from over, and IMHO it's clear that media is siding with Gunn because basic common sense. This isn't a Roseanne situation, like the Vulture's article throughly explained earlier today.
I agree wholeheartedly with you. This came from Alan Horn or Robert Iger. It came from the top echelon, but in my opinion, the "petition" is just a physical manifestation of James Gunn's support. The fact is that public opinion is obviously on Gunn's side once more people get informed by the situation and speak up.
EW has summed up well on their latest update:
Source: http://ew.com/movies/2018/07/23/jam...ekly&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social
If his tweet wasn't hinting enough, look at Pratt's likes on Twitter:
It's clear that they are all standing together for Gunn.
I really hope this to be the case.
It's clear that they are all standing together for Gunn.
Hitting the like button on social media is pretty much an empty gesture.
Damn, just a couple days ago when I signed it it was around 10 K signatures, now it's over 220 K.
Zatt, we've been getting along for a good three days. Please don't ruin it by pretending you have sources. :(
It would be a shame if this is similar to the episode XI, Colin Treverrow debacle, where apparently Star Wars producers were very unsatisfied with him and his work, but needed something real-world and present to give him the boot. Now, in his case, it was just a movie that did incredibly poorly with critics and the box office. To be honest, that seems much more unlikely than someone in Disney either just wanting to get rid of what they saw as a damaging controversy mid-merger.
This thread is going to spiral out of control if rumors get people to parse vague tweets to mean one thing or the other. "Let every person be quick to listen, slow to speak, slow to anger" can be applied either to Disney for firing Gunn or the people rushing to sign the petition in support of Gunn or both or no one. No one knows anything, except now the rumormongers with their vague sources.
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I don't. By "sources" I mean trade people that I talk to from time to time. No one could possibly know what is going on. This isn't at Marvel Studios level, production or floor levels, this is Iger / Horn. My educated guess that no move will be made regardless the noise before this Friday's shareholder voting.
No, he's referring to Colin's film. GOTG2 was a massive hit and got very good reviews.
Apparently that is part of his original post as well
https://www.facebook.com/bill.sienkiewicz.18/posts/1733113773392038
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Disney knew about them or failed to do the bare minimum of due diligence.
I checked his account and honestly I'm not completely seeing it it seems like it could go either way. It's not looking good for Pratt if he's one of the main reason against Gunn's return. Maybe best case scenario assuming Dalek's sources are true is that he pivoted and doesn't have as harsh of a stance about him coming back but it doesn't seem like he's completely for Gunn's return.
It's clear that they are all standing together for Gunn.
I just checked Pratt's follows he's still following both the Gunn brothers (and apparently Sean Gunn has 2 Twitter accounts but one's more active so that was funny) so that's one point for support I guess.
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I don't know if Disney will do shit. I have no sources and what I'm saying is that no, this doesn't involve Pratt or the GOTG cast which has obviously stood by Gunn's support. This is way above anyone's heads for anyone to claim to have "sources", that's my point. My educated guess would be that they didn't expect the public opinion to side with Gunn this hard. They were played and social media and news articles are reflecting and talking about that. They could come today saying that their decision is final or that they got it wrong, but we can't possibly predict that.
My guess would be that nothing happens before the shareholders voting for 21st Century Fox happens, and Gunn's fate as the GOTG3 director is basically at Iger / Horn's hands more than social media and news cycles, but what is going on right now they could have not possibly predicted.
Which is good, because we can't let the alt-right succeed at this. It's a hill worthy dying for. I never signed a freaking Change petition either, I'm not naive to believe that online - or physical - petitions change anything, but it's about how much this thing has struck a nerve and people are standing together to make it right. It goes way beyond the petition.
My source says Fiege was fired and is going to be replaced by Michael Eisner.
Maybe they(whoever at Disney) wanted to fire him for constantly shitting on Trump and this was the right opportunity?
His Twitter is one of the most anti-Trump Twitters I've ever seen. He only stopped recently because of what's happening. I imagine once this blows over he'll continue bashing Trump daily like he used to.
For better or for worse, the power of Twitter is undeniable and as far as a conspiracy, that's the only one that seems plausible.
But honestly? I have no idea. This whole thing has happened before, but it was for people very few stood up for. Celebrities and the average person wanted Singer, Spacey and Roseanne to fuck off.
The public reaction here is completely different. It feels unprecedented.
His Twitter is one of the most anti-Trump Twitters I've ever seen. He only stopped recently because of what's happening. I imagine once this blows over he'll continue bashing Trump daily like he used to.
For better or for worse, the power of Twitter is undeniable and as far as a conspiracy, that's the only one that seems plausible.
But honestly? I have no idea. This whole thing has happened before, but it was for people very few stood up for. Celebrities and the average person wanted Singer, Spacey and Roseanne to fuck off.
The public reaction here is completely different. It feels unprecedented.
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My sources tell me that Disney will have a public meeting over this. Mickey Mouse and Goofy will make an appearance, shake hands, and then take off their masks to unveil that it's Iger and Gunn in the costumes. Millions of fanboys applaud, while millions of children cry when they realize that Mickey and Goofy aren't real.
If we believe Dalek it sounds like he has a better idea tho