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300K + sign petition for Disney to rehire James Gunn for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3

Oct 25, 2017
17,943
Providence / Boston
Seriously, if Pratt was the reason why Gunn didn't get rehired, it would cause a deep divide with the cast. It's clear Bautista would want nothing to do with him if that came to light.

... My God.

This is it. This is how Marvel Studios finally falls.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,604
Kitchener, ON
No, but Gunn just turned in the script for GotG3
FYI, I think it's hypocritical on Disney's part to can Gunn from the director's chair but to still utilize his script. I mean, I understand one role has a much more public face than the other but if you're disassociating yourself from someone for political reasons you can't just then go and say "oh but we'll use his script for the movie and pay him for that 'cause we're fine with him contributing in that capacity". This should be an all or nothing deal if you're taking a stand.

I'd rather have Gunn directing and have signed the petition. Just remarking on the double standard.
 
Nov 30, 2017
1,475
I'm just glad people are seeing reason. Whether Gunn gets his job back or not, people coming in force to support his changed behavior to show the world that you can change for the better and people will support you is good enough for me.

I believe that everyone deserves a second chance at life since we only have one to live.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,993
I mean I hate to be the one to say something definitive but the rumor I have been told-is that Chris Pratt didn’t want to work with Gunn any longer.

This person may be wrong but things they’ve told me in the past have been proven true over time.
That'd be shocking since Gunn was instrumental in getting him the role. It's all hearsay at this point though, please keep that in mind everyone
 
Oct 25, 2017
239
Seattle, WA.
Apparently (I didn't see it myself), Fox News ran a story on the Tweets as if Gunn was admitting to doing what he was joking about.

If anyone was wondering why he was fired, it's that. Not as much the content of the Tweets, but the optics and the potential affect they could have on their stock price by being reported on by the national news right when Disney is going through the biggest entertainment merger in history.

If this happened a year or two ago or a year after the merger, he probably would still be working there.
Yeah, the timing for all of this bullshit couldn't have been worse...

...Almost like Mike Cernovich knew this and planned it this way, hmm...
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,122
Apparently (I didn't see it myself), Fox News ran a story on the Tweets as if Gunn was admitting to doing what he was joking about.

If anyone was wondering why he was fired, it's that. Not as much the content of the Tweets, but the optics and the potential affect they could have on their stock price by being reported on by the national news right when Disney is going through the biggest entertainment merger in history.

If this happened a year or two ago or a year after the merger, he probably would still be working there.
This seems like the most obvious answer. And Cernovich knew it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,529
Seriously, if Pratt was the reason why Gunn didn't get rehired, it would cause a deep divide with the cast. It's clear Bautista would want nothing to do with him if that came to light.

... My God.

This is it. This is how Marvel Studios finally falls.
Man, someone should tell them to stop this next-level marketing, Civil War already came out.



Jesus, guys. Ok. I’m sorry I shared. I’ll keep to myself from now on.
Come one, don't let a few jokey fools ruin your day. I actually appreciate hearing from your sources.
 
Oct 26, 2017
3,602
FYI, I think it's hypocritical on Disney's part to can Gunn from the director's chair but to still utilize his script. I mean, I understand one role has a much more public face than the other but if you're disassociating yourself from someone for political reasons you can't just then go and say "oh but we'll use his script for the movie and pay him for that 'cause we're fine with him contributing in that capacity". This should be an all or nothing deal if you're taking a stand.

I'd rather have Gunn directing and have signed the petition. Just remarking on the double standard.
Disney is a business. A business that likes making money. They aren't taking a stand. They fired Gunn because of the public perception through all of this garbage that's going on, not because they don't like him. The public won't know or care who wrote the movie. Trailers aren't going to say "FROM MICHAEL BAY, DIRECTOR OF TRANSFORMERS and JAMES GUNN, WRITER OF GUARDIANS 1" so they will have no problem with using that script.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,587
Jesus, guys. Ok. I’m sorry I shared. I’ll keep to myself from now on.
I'm sorry. I was joshing around mostly, and I'll stop.
Expecting an actor to rail on their employer on social media is silliness. They shouldn't be asked to risk their careers.
This is why people shouldn't be attacking on screen talent for not voicing their support or dissent in the way people want (unless it turns openly hostile against people).
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,529
Disney is a business. A business that likes making money. They aren't taking a stand. They fired Gunn because of the public perception through all of this garbage that's going on, not because they don't like him. The public won't know or care who wrote the movie. Trailers aren't going to say "FROM MICHAEL BAY, DIRECTOR OF TRANSFORMERS and JAMES GUNN, WRITER OF GUARDIANS 1" so they will have no problem with using that script.
They won't use the script because Gunn could cause a stink if they did. And, it's still so early in the process they can easily find a bunch of new screenwriters to crap out another script.
 
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Jesus, guys. Ok. I’m sorry I shared. I’ll keep to myself from now on.
I respect you as an user and a valueable poster here on Era. What I'm saying is that from my personal experience, there's no way that anyone could predict the outcome of this, and the "Pratt is against Gunn's coming back" seems incredibly naive. This is about Disney higher ups. Now will they walk it back? I don't know. I still think that standing for Gunn is worth it tho. No hard feelings. <3
 
Oct 26, 2017
3,602
They won't use the script because Gunn could cause a stink if they did. And, it's still so early in the process they can easily find a bunch of new screenwriters to crap out another script.
Gunn is a professional. You think he will Josh Trank himself by causing a stink about a simple script? Absolutely not. If it's in his contract, Disney can and will do whatever they want with his script.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,231
My sources have confirmed that Hydra has successfully infiltrated Disney...Parks. And they sure did not approve of the Indiana Jones ride.

Jesus, guys. Ok. I’m sorry I shared. I’ll keep to myself from now on.
No, don't do that. We're not making fun of you, we're just making jokes, trying to pass the time and keep this thread near the top of ERA. But hopefully our jokes here won't be used by the alt-right a decade from now.
 
Oct 27, 2017
192
They won't use the script because Gunn could cause a stink if they did. And, it's still so early in the process they can easily find a bunch of new screenwriters to crap out another script.
The CAN'T NOT use Gunn's script. The story was set in motion many years ago, across several franchises. There is only one logical series of plotting which has been hammered out by Gunn, in close collaboration with Marvel Studios. There is no alternative. Dread it. Fear it...
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,616
Apparently (I didn't see it myself), Fox News ran a story on the Tweets as if Gunn was admitting to doing what he was joking about.

If anyone was wondering why he was fired, it's that. Not as much the content of the Tweets, but the optics and the potential affect they could have on their stock price by being reported on by the national news right when Disney is going through the biggest entertainment merger in history.

If this happened a year or two ago or a year after the merger, he probably would still be working there.
That has been the rights tactic from the start. The tweets are "Admissions of guilt" bullshit. I mean the video of the girls choir. The tweets surrounding it are omg the video may be child porn don't click it just automatically assume its bad shit and report it to the police.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,963
I respect you as an user and a valueable poster here on Era. What I'm saying is that from my personal experience, there's no way that anyone could predict the outcome of this, and the "Pratt is against Gunn's coming back" seems incredibly naive. This is about Disney higher ups. Now will they walk it back? I don't know. I still think that standing for Gunn is worth it tho. No hard feelings. <3
Thanks brother.

For what it’s worth I was told that the specifics are vague-I would assume the excess were responsible for the firing but I was told that Chris supported it or was part of the decision.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,993
They won't use the script because Gunn could cause a stink if they did. And, it's still so early in the process they can easily find a bunch of new screenwriters to crap out another script.
It's not that early. They were scheduled to start shooting in the fall of this year.
 
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Thanks brother.

For what it’s worth I was told that the specifics are vague-I would assume the excess were responsible for the firing but I was told that Chris supported it or was part of the decision.
Pratt isn't as big as Feige, let alone Iger / Horn when it comes to a decision as abrupt as this. This came straight from the top. Lots of articles of top trades have hinted at that since the news broke. It's not a coincidence that it's an Alan Horn quote and not a Feige one.
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,529
Gunn is a professional. You think he will Josh Trank himself by causing a stink about a simple script? Absolutely not. If it's in his contract, Disney can and will do whatever they want with his script.
Gunn being a professional doesn't mean he has to be silent when a major studio decides to fire him but then still use his work. That isn't Josh Trank'ng himself. It's actually quite unique case, all other cases are instances in which "creative differences" appear resulting in a director or screenwriter splitting from a film. Gunn was simply fired, it had nothing to do (as far as we know) with his material or work relationship with Marvel. And, by firing him they casted aspersions on his characters. To think it's "professional" in those situations to allow a mega-corporation to profit off of your work after publicly abandoning you and impugning your character is nonsense. He wouldn't even have to cause much a fuss beyond stating that, "yes, they are still using elements from my script" and "no, he had no say in it."

The CAN'T NOT use Gunn's script. The story was set in motion many years ago, across several franchises. There is only one logical series of plotting which has been hammered out by Gunn, in close collaboration with Marvel Studios. There is no alternative. Dread it. Fear it...
Except that's not true.

It's not that early. They were scheduled to start shooting in the fall of this year.
Time for a delay.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Like All I'm saying is that it's irresponsible - for any source mind you - to predict the outcome here. This is an incredibly hard situation and arguably Disney and Hollywood's biggest crisis of the literal century, way bigger than #MeToo and made by a pair of alt-right trolls. This situation is far far from over, and IMHO it's clear that media is siding with Gunn because basic common sense. This isn't a Roseanne situation, like the Vulture's article throughly explained earlier today.
Disney firing someone from your favourite movie franchise is not in any way bigger or more important than exposing decades of institutional misconduct and serious crimes. Are you mental?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Disney firing someone from your favourite movie franchise is not in any way bigger or more important than exposing decades of institutional misconduct and serious crimes. Are you mental?
I think he means the precedent set, not the actual results of the events. Regardless, it is a bit of an overstatement for sure.
 

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Disney firing someone from your favourite movie franchise is not in any way bigger or more important than exposing decades of institutional misconduct and serious crimes. Are you mental?
What the hell is this? It's my opinion. #MeToo isn't a crisis, it's more like a long coming solution. This though? This is a crisis and I'd argue that it's bigger than #MeToo in the sense that it's weaponized outrage to aim against people in the spotlight that are outspoken against absurd things like Trump's presidency. #MeToo targets sexual predators and OF COURSE that it's more important than this, what I'm saying is that this is bigger because it targets everyone and it sets a dangerous precedent.

Way to take what I've said out of the context, btw. It's not that hard to understand.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Gunn being a professional doesn't mean he has to be silent when a major studio decides to fire him but then still use his work. That isn't Josh Trank'ng himself. It's actually quite unique case, all other cases are instances in which "creative differences" appear resulting in a director or screenwriter splitting from a film. Gunn was simply fired, it had nothing to do (as far as we know) with his material or work relationship with Marvel. And, by firing him they casted aspersions on his characters. To think it's "professional" in those situations to allow a mega-corporation to profit off of your work after publicly abandoning you and impugning your character is nonsense. He wouldn't even have to cause much a fuss beyond stating that, "yes, they are still using elements from my script" and "no, he had no say in it."



Except that's not true.



Time for a delay.
You are crazy if you think that's how these business work. He is not going to be out there blasting Disney for using his script that he was paid for and submitted. In fact, I would wager that Gunn has already decided to be the bigger person here and accept that Disney did what they felt they had to do. He will be in full support of his old crew in making G3. Doing otherwise is Tranking yourself. You don't burn bridges like that if you want to continue working in Hollywood, EVEN IF you were burned yourself.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,618
Disney firing someone from your favourite movie franchise is not in any way bigger or more important than exposing decades of institutional misconduct and serious crimes. Are you mental?
Well it is the biggest controversy Marvel Studios had to deal with and for better and for worse the effects of this means that the Alt Right managed to shake up the biggest movie franchise in recent memory. It may not be the biggest thing in Hollywood's history but it will be a notable event.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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You are incredibly naive if you think that's how these business work. He is not going to be out there blasting Disney for using his script that he was paid for and submitted. In fact, I would wager that Gunn has already decided to be the bigger person here and accept that Disney did what they felt they had to do. He will be in full support of his old crew in making G3. Doing otherwise is Tranking yourself. You don't burn bridges like that if you want to continue working in Hollywood, EVEN IF you were burned yourself.
We talking the same Gunn that publicly insinuated that Jared Leto is a pedophile? Dude is not known for being quiet, in fact that's why he's in trouble. And, as I said, he doesn't have to do much. The second it's revealed that they are still using Gunn's script it's going to cause another huge stinkwell on the internet that will eventually demand that Gunn respond with his thoughts. There will be plenty of tweets and articles asking how Disney can profit off of the work of someone whose character they believe is not fit for Disney. Now, maybe they can weather that coming PR nightmare, but the smarter move would just scrap his script and get their internal team to do a quick rewrite.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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We talking the same Gunn that publicly insinuated that Jared Leto is a pedophile? Dude is not known for being quiet, in fact that's why he's in trouble. And, as I said, he doesn't have to do much. The second it's revealed that they are still using Gunn's script it's going to cause another huge stinkwell on the internet that will eventually demand that Gunn respond with his thoughts. There will be plenty of tweets and articles asking how Disney can profit off of the work of someone whose character they believe is not fit for Disney. Now, maybe they can weather that coming PR nightmare, but the smarter move would just scrap his script and get their internal team to do a quick rewrite.
If they do a “quick rewrite” the WGA will rule Gunn deserves credit. If they do a page one rewrite the script will either be rushed or the movie will be delayed. They’re just going to use Gunn’s script for the same reason there’s another expensive Max Landis movie being made - no one cares about the writer.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Unless you feel comfortable verifying your sources to me or other staff, don't say you have sources or we're going to have to have a chat.

It's fine to not be an insider.
My sources confirm that the mods here are getting pretty aggravated by people talking about their fake sources.

Last one, I promise.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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We talking the same Gunn that publicly insinuated that Jared Leto is a pedophile? Dude is not known for being quiet, in fact that's why he's in trouble. And, as I said, he doesn't have to do much. The second it's revealed that they are still using Gunn's script it's going to cause another huge stinkwell on the internet that will eventually demand that Gunn respond with his thoughts. There will be plenty of tweets and articles asking how Disney can profit off of the work of someone whose character they believe is not fit for Disney. Now, maybe they can weather that coming PR nightmare, but the smarter move would just scrap his script and get their internal team to do a quick rewrite.
It's be like Hank Pym in Antman 2

Gunn Supporters: "Please don't tell me you're going to profit off of Gunn's work"

Disney: "No we'll just do a complete rewrite"

Gunn Supporters: "What!? But GOTG is Gunn's life work"

Disney: "Okay we will use his script it would be easier"

Gunn Supporters: " WHY!? You are profiting off the work you disowned?"

Disney: "Than what you want us to do?"

Gunn Supporters: "You were supposed to not fire him!"
 
Oct 26, 2017
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We talking the same Gunn that publicly insinuated that Jared Leto is a pedophile? Dude is not known for being quiet, in fact that's why he's in trouble. And, as I said, he doesn't have to do much. The second it's revealed that they are still using Gunn's script it's going to cause another huge stinkwell on the internet that will eventually demand that Gunn respond with his thoughts. There will be plenty of tweets and articles asking how Disney can profit off of the work of someone whose character they believe is not fit for Disney. Now, maybe they can weather that coming PR nightmare, but the smarter move would just scrap his script and get their internal team to do a quick rewrite.
We are talking about the same Gunn who everyone touts as grown up and mature right? We will have to agree to disagree on the rest of your post, because I don't see any of that happening. I highly doubt his name will be removed as writer.