If they don't use the script/do a page one rewrite, there is no way the movie hits its original date.
Oh, nevermind then. It's possible. For some reason I thought they had a fall start.
I kinda feel like we could get into a situation where a deeply apologetic Gunn could get back into the seat with an extensive recovery letter written by about a dozen Disney Marketing people. There's quite a lot of big names out there in support of him now, hardly any in outspoken opposition and the public's opinion seems to be on his side, too - Hundreds of Thousands of signees show that. The more big names give out their support, the more people will get involved and with Cernovich and co continuing to attack comedians and actors, it doesn't seem like it will die down anytime soon. I really think this could go either way at this point.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Disney right now. This backfired on them SO hard.
And everyone goes to watch Guardians 3 anyway. lolIt'll die down by this weekend after the shareholders vote and the news of the merger being official dominates the Disney news cycle.
Oh, nevermind then. It's possible. For some reason I thought they had a fall start.
I still think it's very possible they use Gunn's script though. They didn't throw out Edgar Wright and Joe Cornish's on Ant-Man, even with others doing some rewrites on it.
Yeah, it would be tight but it's doable in a way that a production start in a couple months wouldn't be. But like I said, I'm skeptical it will be page one.January is still tight because pre-production needs to start. If they start building sets based off locations in Gunn's current script then it's not a page one rewrite and Gunn gets credit. If they do a page one then I highly doubt they start in January. They could start later in the spring (assuming cast availability which could be dicey considering Saldana may have more Avatar work, Pratt has JP3 at some point, not sure when Gillen is doing Jumanji 2, etc) and still make May 2020 but the effects will suffer.
Using Gunn's script just feels problematic from an optics standpoint. They cut ties and want nothing to do with him but they are still fine with his script? Sounds hypocritical.
Also, not sure what's Gunn's contract for GotG 3 looks like but he may contractually obligated to a producer/EP credit since he just got one on Infinity War.
I mean, movie studios, like most major corporations, are hypocritical and confusing in their policy all the time. They'll gladly pillage what they can from Gunn while severing ties with him. Continuing GotG at all while firing him is about as hypocritical in the eyes of the studio execs, IMO. I.E. not at all to either.Using Gunn's script just feels problematic from an optics standpoint. They cut ties and want nothing to do with him but they are still fine with his script? Sounds hypocritical.
Like ManaByte and others here, I do have my own sources. This is a developing story with an unpredictable outcome. This is uncharted territory, and I honestly don't think Disney will be able to ignore it. The PR nightmare will keep getting worse.
All I'm saying is that it's irresponsible - for any source mind you - to predict the outcome here. This is an incredibly hard situation and arguably Disney and Hollywood's biggest crisis of the literal century, way bigger than #MeToo and made by a pair of alt-right trolls. This situation is far far from over, and IMHO it's clear that media is siding with Gunn because basic common sense. This isn't a Roseanne situation, like the Vulture's article throughly explained earlier today.
Jesus Christ…Hollywood's biggest crisis of the literal century, way bigger than #MeToo
Gunn will almost certainly get credit in some way, I don't see how Disney gets out of that. Most people don't pay attention to screenwriting credits (sadly) anyway. But I doubt they can untangle themselves from his EP credit.
I mean, movie studios, like most major corporations, are hypocritical and confusing in their policy all the time. They'll gladly pillage what they can from Gunn while severing ties with him. Continuing GotG at all while firing him is about as hypocritical, IMO.
A lot of Directors would take the job, don't fool yourself. There's a lot of hungry people out there who would kill for an opportunity like this -- just like Gunn was back when he got the original GotG gig. And minor rewrites most definitely could happen either by the next director or someone else, but I don't see them drastically altering what they've got if they want to keep a January production start.I guess I just can't imagine any directors of note willing to work off of his script. Gunn's script from another director is just going to end up in endless debates on who is responsible for what. I'm sure Disney could get a hack like Brett Ratner to do that but if they try to get someone decent I'm guessing the director will mandate a fresh script even if they don't write it themselves.
A lot of Directors would take the job, don't fool yourself. There's a lot of hungry people out there who would kill for an opportunity like this -- just like Gunn was back when the original GotG came out. And minor rewrites most definitely could happen either by the next director or someone else, but I don't see them drastically altering what they've got if they want to keep a January production start.
No doubt. I just don't know that Disney will be willing to handle a series like Guardians which is a huge moneymaker but needs a very unique vision to just any hack. I think they will go reasonably high profile and in the process kick themselves into a page one rewrite.
I'm skeptical. They haven't really hired any "high profile" directors. Phase One had a couple, but that was pre-Disney. It's been more that they grab people and in making a MCU movie they become high profile. I could see the argument that Coogler was borderline high profile I guess, but the point stands. We'll see though what happens. Like I said, if they are doing a full rewrite then they aren't keeping the January start date.No doubt. I just don't know that Disney will be willing to handle a series like Guardians which is a huge moneymaker but needs a very unique vision to just any hack. I think they will go reasonably high profile and in the process kick themselves into a page one rewrite.
Look at the post directly above yours lol
Banned in this thread. His hyperbolic posting style got the better of him this time.
Not being able to link tweets is a bigger deal than the Kennedy assassinations!
You've been drinking that Mahvel juice a little too hard my guy
I'm skeptical. They haven't really hired any "high profile" directors. Phase One had a couple, but that was pre-Disney. It's been more that they grab people and in making a MCU movie they become high profile. I could see the argument that Coogler was borderline high profile I guess, but the point stands. We'll see though what happens. Like I said, if they are doing a full rewrite then they aren't keeping the January start date.
James Gunn has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FOX CORPORATION has risen from within reach of the Mighty Mouse Empire and will not rest until Gunn, The Last Guardian, has been forgotten.
With the support of the RESETERA, General ZattMurdock leads a brave PETITION. He is desperate to find the director James and gain his help in restoring quality and originality to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Zatt has sent his most daring poster on a secret mission to Twitter, where an old ally has discovered a source privy to the key to James's return….
It was an obvious overreaction from the getgo. They played themselves. They should have just have him issue some kind of apology and move on.
You've been drinking that Mahvel juice a little too hard my guy
Finally drank too much is his own kool-aid, I see.Like ManaByte and others here, I do have my own sources. This is a developing story with an unpredictable outcome. This is uncharted territory, and I honestly don't think Disney will be able to ignore it. The PR nightmare will keep getting worse.
All I'm saying is that it's irresponsible - for any source mind you - to predict the outcome here. This is an incredibly hard situation and arguably Disney and Hollywood's biggest crisis of the literal century, way bigger than #MeToo and made by a pair of alt-right trolls. This situation is far far from over, and IMHO it's clear that media is siding with Gunn because basic common sense. This isn't a Roseanne situation, like the Vulture's article throughly explained earlier today.
Couldn't help but hear the music as I read this.James Gunn has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FOX CORPORATION has risen from within reach of the Mighty Mouse Empire and will not rest until Gunn, The Last Guardian, has been forgotten.
With the support of the RESETERA, General ZattMurdock leads a brave PETITION. He is desperate to find the director James and gain his help in restoring quality and originality to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Zatt has sent his most daring poster on a secret mission to Twitter, where an old ally has discovered a source privy to the key to James's return….
Nothing can be as bad as "eight years later"
All ERA marvel stans suddenly be likeLool really? That's pretty standard ZattMurdoc. Dude is the mold from which all marvel stans were made.
Since nothing has happened yet, I guess Gunn is gone for sure now? If Disney pulled an 180° it would have happened by now I think. Damn, wonder how will this affect the MCU timeline now.
Since nothing has happened yet, I guess Gunn is gone for sure now? If Disney pulled an 180° it would have happened by now I think. Damn, wonder how will this affect the MCU timeline now.
This is very trueThe fact that there hasn't been any rumblings about Disney looking at specific directors yet is a good sign. A lot of times, in cases like this where there is a release date set in stone, you'll hear more about different people who are being looked at.
The fact that there hasn't been any rumblings about Disney looking at specific directors yet is a good sign. A lot of times, in cases like this where there is a release date set in stone, you'll hear more about different people who are being looked at.
In other situations like this "a later date" can give cover to avoid making a full statement. Basically, you give the milquetoast one to placate people in the immediate aftermath, and then if it hasn't died down, you say something, and if it did die down, you just let it go. It's kind of standard PR cover from an immediate crisis.People guessing that something might happen after the vote, do you think this is why most of the cast is running with the 'comment at a later date' thing? Could they have possibly been clued into what Disney might do after the vote? I originally thought they were just going to release a joint statement today or sometime soon but now I'm wondering.
One of which was on a Friday right before the weekend, and two during the weekend. It's also interesting that beyond the initial announcement from Horn, there's been nothing, and especially nothing from the Marvel side of the operation.It's been four days. Prepare to be disappointed in short order.