I have a source who says he isnt coming back not because of this but because of how they just don't like the man's taste in music.
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300K + sign petition for Disney to rehire James Gunn for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
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It's very possible Pratt doesn't have any personal issues with Gunn, and is not happy with him being fired for this, but was butting heads with him creatively enough for Disney to be wary of what would come next.
Pratt butted heads a lot on JW2, and is the reason for a lot of changes to the script and scene tone.
Pratt butted heads a lot on JW2, and is the reason for a lot of changes to the script and scene tone.
I have full faith that the man who gave the world one of the funniest sitcom outtakes in history would not suddenly want nothing to do with James Gunn because he made old offensive tweets.
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Honestly impossible to know shit at that level. Even if Dalek's "source" thinks that's because of Pratt, this didn't happen because of him, Pratt could choose to stay silent and not show support for Gunn at all, he didn't do that. This isn't about people the general people see in the films or even Marvel Studios, this is top level Disney not wanting a scandal before a big voting merger in literally 4 days and 7 days before they made their decision to fire Gunn.
I genuinely think the higher ups didn't expect to revert their decision, I think they might not revert it at all. But I think if Gunn has a shot, it's because the public opinion is obviously on his side because Disney rushed to fire him. And when you think about the clusterfuck that it'd be the shareholder merger voting if they didn't do that, it makes sense. Now, does it makes sense for them to walk back their decision? I don't expect anything before the merger voting happens. But that's just my 2 cents.
The decision to fire Gunn came from Iger himself, it wouldn't have been approved without him.
Apparently (I didn't see it myself), Fox News ran a story on the Tweets as if Gunn was admitting to doing what he was joking about.
If anyone was wondering why he was fired, it's that. Not as much the content of the Tweets, but the optics and the potential affect they could have on their stock price by being reported on by the national news right when Disney is going through the biggest entertainment merger in history.
If this happened a year or two ago or a year after the merger, he probably would still be working there.
If anyone was wondering why he was fired, it's that. Not as much the content of the Tweets, but the optics and the potential affect they could have on their stock price by being reported on by the national news right when Disney is going through the biggest entertainment merger in history.
If this happened a year or two ago or a year after the merger, he probably would still be working there.
Seriously, if Pratt was the reason why Gunn didn't get rehired, it would cause a deep divide with the cast. It's clear Bautista would want nothing to do with him if that came to light.
... My God.
This is it. This is how Marvel Studios finally falls.
... My God.
This is it. This is how Marvel Studios finally falls.
FYI, I think it's hypocritical on Disney's part to can Gunn from the director's chair but to still utilize his script. I mean, I understand one role has a much more public face than the other but if you're disassociating yourself from someone for political reasons you can't just then go and say "oh but we'll use his script for the movie and pay him for that 'cause we're fine with him contributing in that capacity". This should be an all or nothing deal if you're taking a stand.
I'd rather have Gunn directing and have signed the petition. Just remarking on the double standard.
I'm just glad people are seeing reason. Whether Gunn gets his job back or not, people coming in force to support his changed behavior to show the world that you can change for the better and people will support you is good enough for me.
I believe that everyone deserves a second chance at life since we only have one to live.
I believe that everyone deserves a second chance at life since we only have one to live.
That'd be shocking since Gunn was instrumental in getting him the role. It's all hearsay at this point though, please keep that in mind everyone
Yeah, the timing for all of this bullshit couldn't have been worse...
...Almost like Mike Cernovich knew this and planned it this way, hmm...
This seems like the most obvious answer. And Cernovich knew it.
Jesus, guys. Ok. I'm sorry I shared. I'll keep to myself from now on.
Man, someone should tell them to stop this next-level marketing, Civil War already came out.
Come one, don't let a few jokey fools ruin your day. I actually appreciate hearing from your sources.
Disney is a business. A business that likes making money. They aren't taking a stand. They fired Gunn because of the public perception through all of this garbage that's going on, not because they don't like him. The public won't know or care who wrote the movie. Trailers aren't going to say "FROM MICHAEL BAY, DIRECTOR OF TRANSFORMERS and JAMES GUNN, WRITER OF GUARDIANS 1" so they will have no problem with using that script.
I'm sorry. I was joshing around mostly, and I'll stop.
This is why people shouldn't be attacking on screen talent for not voicing their support or dissent in the way people want (unless it turns openly hostile against people).
I signed the petition, but highly unlikely Disney brings Gunn back. Maybe MCU fans should do a boycott to get Disney's attention.
They won't use the script because Gunn could cause a stink if they did. And, it's still so early in the process they can easily find a bunch of new screenwriters to crap out another script.
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I respect you as an user and a valueable poster here on Era. What I'm saying is that from my personal experience, there's no way that anyone could predict the outcome of this, and the "Pratt is against Gunn's coming back" seems incredibly naive. This is about Disney higher ups. Now will they walk it back? I don't know. I still think that standing for Gunn is worth it tho. No hard feelings. <3
Gunn is a professional. You think he will Josh Trank himself by causing a stink about a simple script? Absolutely not. If it's in his contract, Disney can and will do whatever they want with his script.
My sources have confirmed that Hydra has successfully infiltrated Disney...Parks. And they sure did not approve of the Indiana Jones ride.
No, don't do that. We're not making fun of you, we're just making jokes, trying to pass the time and keep this thread near the top of ERA. But hopefully our jokes here won't be used by the alt-right a decade from now.
The CAN'T NOT use Gunn's script. The story was set in motion many years ago, across several franchises. There is only one logical series of plotting which has been hammered out by Gunn, in close collaboration with Marvel Studios. There is no alternative. Dread it. Fear it...
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Don't sweat it too much, dude. The internet ratchets everything up to 11.
That has been the rights tactic from the start. The tweets are "Admissions of guilt" bullshit. I mean the video of the girls choir. The tweets surrounding it are omg the video may be child porn don't click it just automatically assume its bad shit and report it to the police.
Thanks brother.
For what it's worth I was told that the specifics are vague-I would assume the excess were responsible for the firing but I was told that Chris supported it or was part of the decision.
It's not that early. They were scheduled to start shooting in the fall of this year.
Maybe he's learned more since. He follows alt right people tho
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Pratt isn't as big as Feige, let alone Iger / Horn when it comes to a decision as abrupt as this. This came straight from the top. Lots of articles of top trades have hinted at that since the news broke. It's not a coincidence that it's an Alan Horn quote and not a Feige one.
Gunn being a professional doesn't mean he has to be silent when a major studio decides to fire him but then still use his work. That isn't Josh Trank'ng himself. It's actually quite unique case, all other cases are instances in which "creative differences" appear resulting in a director or screenwriter splitting from a film. Gunn was simply fired, it had nothing to do (as far as we know) with his material or work relationship with Marvel. And, by firing him they casted aspersions on his characters. To think it's "professional" in those situations to allow a mega-corporation to profit off of your work after publicly abandoning you and impugning your character is nonsense. He wouldn't even have to cause much a fuss beyond stating that, "yes, they are still using elements from my script" and "no, he had no say in it."
Except that's not true.
Time for a delay.
Disney firing someone from your favourite movie franchise is not in any way bigger or more important than exposing decades of institutional misconduct and serious crimes. Are you mental?
I think he means the precedent set, not the actual results of the events. Regardless, it is a bit of an overstatement for sure.
Unless you feel comfortable verifying your sources to me or other staff, don't say you have sources or we're going to have to have a chat.
It's fine to not be an insider.
It's fine to not be an insider.
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User banned (3 days): downplaying sexual harassment
What the hell is this? It's my opinion. #MeToo isn't a crisis, it's more like a long coming solution. This though? This is a crisis and I'd argue that it's bigger than #MeToo in the sense that it's weaponized outrage to aim against people in the spotlight that are outspoken against absurd things like Trump's presidency. #MeToo targets sexual predators and OF COURSE that it's more important than this, what I'm saying is that this is bigger because it targets everyone and it sets a dangerous precedent.
Way to take what I've said out of the context, btw. It's not that hard to understand.
You are crazy if you think that's how these business work. He is not going to be out there blasting Disney for using his script that he was paid for and submitted. In fact, I would wager that Gunn has already decided to be the bigger person here and accept that Disney did what they felt they had to do. He will be in full support of his old crew in making G3. Doing otherwise is Tranking yourself. You don't burn bridges like that if you want to continue working in Hollywood, EVEN IF you were burned yourself.
Well it is the biggest controversy Marvel Studios had to deal with and for better and for worse the effects of this means that the Alt Right managed to shake up the biggest movie franchise in recent memory. It may not be the biggest thing in Hollywood's history but it will be a notable event.