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41% of PS4/PS5 owners are women
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I feel this is slowly changing, in PS360 we barely had women leads
It takes more work than just making a woman protagonist character though.
I feel Sony is doing a lot to be more inclusive with games like Gravity Rush, Horizon, Last of Us, Returnal, but there is still a ways to go. The industry definitely could do better overall.
If you look back to previous generations you can absolutely see a change. There is obviously room for way more growth though.
No surprise, gamer dudes are just disproportionately loud.
Also helps that obnoxious 90s/2000s bro marketing is largely dead.
Also helps that obnoxious 90s/2000s bro marketing is largely dead.
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Oh for sure. But I remember reading that ND had to fight to put Ellie in the cover of TLOU I, and stuff like this:
Remember Me 'rejected over female lead'
Remember Me had been turned down by publishers because of the lead's gender.
www.digitalspy.com
So it feels we are improving.
User Banned (2 Weeks): Exclusionary Rhetoric
I can't believe that's true, I think more women playing would be a good thing but I can't see the split being that high unless they're using some kind of weird definition to get to that figure like, "has access to and has played on a console wholly owned by someone in their household"
As I said, I think it'd be a good thing, I just don't think we're there yet.
As I said, I think it'd be a good thing, I just don't think we're there yet.
Makes (unfortunate) sense if you consider how many current developers grew up in that 18% era.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I know as many women into gaming as I do men. They just don't tend to be as vocal - or obsessive - about it.
Anecdotally know women who jumped into consoles this previous generation because of stuff like Last of Us and Horizon. Great to see.
One would think an easy way to make money is to appeal to untapped demographics, but nah, obviously dudes are just wired to like interactive entertainment and women aren't, let's never try instead.
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Same, in my college many women loved TLOU.
Things like this remind me of all the awful "we shall investigate why women aren't into games" type of articles in 90s gaming mags:
Thankfully things have changed a lot.
WTF is this big quote
That's huge! Anecdotally all of my neices and sisters love PlayStation and Nintendo almost equally lol
Sorry if I don't explain myself better but what it means a game is targeted to a "male" or "female" audience?
I know women protagonist are important because that means women can identify with. And I know, stories that females can identified with are important
I don't think shoters or action games are necesary male targeted games but I am not informed very well or need a second thought
Is that really the case? I pretty much only follow female streamers, but they overwhelmingly love Sony's FP output. Particularly anything Naughty Dog, GoW (2018) and Spidey. I also remember that Neil and Bruce said that the original TLoU had a 60/40 split in terms of male/female gamers.
Let me tell y'all why in the 360/PS3 days I switched over to PS3 late gen, then subsequently to PS4
The lack of men screaming abuse down a headset through my tv
Like, so few people on PS3 actually spoke it was a selling point, smaller playerbase n all lol
The lack of men screaming abuse down a headset through my tv
Like, so few people on PS3 actually spoke it was a selling point, smaller playerbase n all lol
They're being stupid on purpose. The sarcasm reads better in the paragraph beneath it.
Yeah or maybe women don't usually play competitive online games as I mostly see men playing. Or maybe they are just not talking on the mic to avoid being harassed, which is sad but understandable.
This is very true!
It's slowly, slowly changing I guess. And the biggest issues are not about the amount of women leads in games.
To appeal to female audience imo means having not only strong women characters, but represent a female perspective telling stories through that lens, characters that are designed to be identifiable with by women that have agency over the story and not just play second fiddle to the male characters.
Of course, women like and play all kinds of games, not just "games made for women" which isn't and shouldn't be considered a genre.
But that doesn't mean there shouldn't be bigger strides made in that regard, and having a wider variety of stories being told in the gaming space.
Hopefully a growing proportion of gamers being women will eventually translate to a larger proportion of women deciding to enter the games industry. There's obviously a little lag associated with that trend, but I feel like that's really the long term solution to the game design problems.
I like on that graph the "Free to Play" is there to indicate Fortnite's releasing and becoming insanely popular.
I fully agree with you in this.
And not just women but people of color and queer people too.
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AAAs are behind, but indies are great at this. Mae from Night In The Woods was relatable af.