Exactly.
The dangerous thing isn't a smarter fascist, it's an even dumber one.
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Exactly.
The dangerous thing isn't a smarter fascist, it's an even dumber one.
oh yeah, I've seen the GOP's current roster and it's far from impressive. So it'll be someone maybe even a decade or more down the line.
They entered a governement building with violence, and with the declared intent of forcing congress to validate their candidate.
How is that not a coup attempt?
Oh, is that all? Phew, just chaos, confusion and our democracy undermined...explain to me how that's not the very definition of throwing our constitution away?
Yes. And not for the first time. GOP gerrymandering and voter suppression have been quite successful.
Now they're looking to go for the kill with "we always win" laws being proposed, that would let state legislatures (which are assured majorities via gerrymandering) override results they don't like.
I think we're well beyond anyone caring how accurate the notes are. Trump supporters don't just not care if he's doing corrupt shit like this; it's what they now demand from all their elected officials.
It's been this amazing pattern to me where it's like a pattern will be "deny 100% that there's any substance at all and this is all fake news" -> "get caught in the act but change story to it being a case where the thing did happen, but there was nothing wrong with it" -> "go back to denying that the thing happened at all." Like if he were accused of personally committing murder, day one would be to state it's 100% false and that he has an airtight alibi for not being at the scene of the crime. Then the next day a surveillance camera unambiguously shows him there pulling the trigger so the story shifts to it being the case where of course he was there and of course he killed them but it was text book self defense. Then the next day different surveillance footage shows the assailant in a less clear manner, we pretend that yesterday's evidence was never released, then we are back to denying that he was ever there and you can ask 100 people and they'll testify he was nowhere near the crime scene.
And then that's the end of it. He wasn't there. It wasn't him. Never mind, it was him but it was all justifiable. No wait, on third thought it wasn't him he definitely wasn't there. On and on and on this goes.
What happening now is arguably a worse outcome than that; because nobody in power is being held accountable and not only the conservative lawmakers but the majority of the conservative electorate (whether in good faith or bad) are going with the big lie; in other words most Republicans in America now "believe" (believe in quotes because there are demonstrably those whom know it's bullshit but push the narrative for political gain with Trump's cult anyway) the American political system has *already failed* and that they are justified in doing anything and everything to steal power back because the other side is already doing it. This is *extremely* dangerous ideology in a democracy, and on January 6 there were a good number of Republicans who condemned the event but when they saw it was politically advantageous to tow Trump's line they fell right back into line and refused holding anyone accountable. That's when the damage was truly done, and ongoing R efforts to weaken voting laws right now show there is political power and momentum behind this movement; so they continuing to lay the groundwork to undermine the electorate. They are quite literally in some cases already replacing people in positions of power with people who will be loyal next time. I'm really hoping Trump isn't able to run for some reason or other next election because another run at a second term may easily have dire consequences… even if he loses again. The problem is the next election lie, or insurrection, or whatever heinous event he pushes to happen may have even greater support and the system absolutely can fail like any other.
Arrest all republicans. GOP is a terrorist organization! We wouldn't let the president of the taliban run right? Arrest these fuckers and let's tackle issues like global warming and other much more pressing matters ffs
the goal was to delay certification, Trump would then have invoked the insurrection and then the Army is out on the streets. after that who knows what other maniacs were going to rise up.
You say this like DeSantis isn't exactly that, dude is scary popular for how shit he is.
"it was just a bunch of idiots"
"they just delayed certification by a few minutes. How is that a coup"
--> these are rightwing talking points. Identify and call this shit out.
These people were armed insurrectionists screaming the n-word and "hang Mike Pence" as they injured and killed Capitol Police in their attempt to breach the US Capitol, which they did. Like, did anyone watch the videos?
Just a bunch of idiots you guys. Yeah Shodan14 I'm calling your ass out.
"they just delayed certification by a few minutes. How is that a coup"
--> these are rightwing talking points. Identify and call this shit out.
These people were armed insurrectionists screaming the n-word and "hang Mike Pence" as they injured and killed Capitol Police in their attempt to breach the US Capitol, which they did. Like, did anyone watch the videos?
Just a bunch of idiots you guys. Yeah Shodan14 I'm calling your ass out.
re: whether we really need to be more worried about a smart version of Trump or not
Eyewitness to a 1927 Hitler speech:
In his speech, Hitler used vulgar comparisons, tailor-made to the intellectual capacities of his listeners, and he did not shy away from even the cheapest of allusions.
His words and opinions were simply hurled out with dictatorial certainty as if they were unquestionable principles and facts. All this manifests itself in his language as well, which is like something merely expulsed.
This stuff WORKS. The garbled language that makes Trump look like a goddamn simpleton? It means that even the dumbest member of his audience can understand and relate to him on a level that they couldn't to someone more erudite.
Eyewitness to a 1927 Hitler speech:
In his speech, Hitler used vulgar comparisons, tailor-made to the intellectual capacities of his listeners, and he did not shy away from even the cheapest of allusions.
His words and opinions were simply hurled out with dictatorial certainty as if they were unquestionable principles and facts. All this manifests itself in his language as well, which is like something merely expulsed.
This stuff WORKS. The garbled language that makes Trump look like a goddamn simpleton? It means that even the dumbest member of his audience can understand and relate to him on a level that they couldn't to someone more erudite.
No, of course they didn't, because they're willfully ignorant and bad people.
Yeah.
If you look at Trump and think he talks like a moron, it's because you're not voting for him.
DeSantis is too smart to be Trump, which we know because he's smart enough to try and emulate Trump. Someone actually dumb enough to be the next Trump would be out there being absolutely dumb in their own unique way (Marjorie Taor Greene, actually).
DeSantis is unelectable on a national stage anyway because of his coronavirus response. Trump lost because of his and he's way more popular than DeSantis ever will be.
Yes, but Trump is actually a bona fide doofus, not some sort of W Bush act. His brand of charismatic word salad isn't replicated, at least easily, and we know this because we had a whole lot of Trump likes run in 2018 and 2020 and the only one with any real success was Trump (and he lost too).
Also: not elected because we would elect our leader with a majority vote
Thanks for posting. Sometimes you just really need a reminder about how violent that day really was, despite what the Right and their shields want you to believe.
User banned (1 week): trolling, thread derail
It's important and I'm asking if somebody can make a thread about it, I guess you don't care about people being homeless
?? It's a side note as it's important and have not seen anybody make a thread about such an important topic, I can't make the thread so I'm asking for somebody to just do it, that's all
It's cool that you chose this particular thread about your God Emperor to post it. And not any other thread.
Maybe you could post a not-so-subtle Biden has dementia clip, too.
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It's a legitimate issue, but wowwwww.
Someone asks you what it has to do with the topic and you accuse them of not caring about homeless people. Self righteous much?
When reading about most of the dictators and authoritarian rulers over recent history, I was surprised at just how fucking dumb most of them were. 1984 has given many people a false impression that Big Brother governments are going to be clever, and expertly manipulative, but the truth is that many of them were just blunt idiots like Trump, and that some of the coups they led would look pathetic in retrospect except that they worked.
Trump is a buffoon, but buffoons can be incredibly dangerous, because they just don't give a shit about legal safeguards or decency or history. They use blunt tactics that seem crude and laughable until they finally succeed. Letting these idiots get away with so few consequences is setting a dangerous precedent for our future, I think.
Trump is a buffoon, but buffoons can be incredibly dangerous, because they just don't give a shit about legal safeguards or decency or history. They use blunt tactics that seem crude and laughable until they finally succeed. Letting these idiots get away with so few consequences is setting a dangerous precedent for our future, I think.
Who would've thought this thread of all threads would be home to such crazy derails.
Yup. For example, one reason Germany lost WWII is that Hitler fired all the Kaiser's generals who were responsible for his early victories and replaced them with loyal Nazi stooges who were just as dumb and incompetent as he was.
DOJ officials rejected colleague's request to intervene in Georgia's election certification: Emails
Top DOJ officials rejected a colleague's request last year to urge Georgia officials to possibly overturn President Joe Biden's victory in the state, emails show.
abcnews.go.com
DOJ officials rejected colleague's request to intervene in Georgia's election certification: Emails
Top DOJ officials rejected a colleague's request last year to urge Georgia officials to possibly overturn President Joe Biden's victory in the state, emails show.
Yeah, but, let's investigate Arizona''s ballots again! I know we'll find Democrat election Fraud!
Holy shit that draft letter. Going to institute a coup of the federal government on an "implied authority" omg (which is bullshit because the constitution doesn't imply shit for State legislatures).
WIthout a doubt, the way in which the coup barely failed highlighted the remaining positions in the government which formed an impediment to complete takeover.
You can bet every one of those has been circled in red on the board. Targets for installing a crony the next time a Republican is president.
You can bet every one of those has been circled in red on the board. Targets for installing a crony the next time a Republican is president.
Your conspiracy sites and sycophant news sources aren't exactly valid sources, Don.
They can't. The only way to trigger a vote to ban someone from future office is if a removal is successful after impeachment.
They can't. The only way to trigger a vote to ban someone from future office is if a removal is successful after impeachment.