Joe Dante's Matinee is coming to 4K via Shout in June. Never picked up the blu of that, so quite excited for the UHD release.
yeah unfortunately i came away disappointed by the film itself after having looked forward to seeing it for a while but at the very least the quality of the 4K was extremely solid.I remember Brotherhood of the Wolfs blu ray being putrid, almost like a repackaged DVD that wasn't good looking to begin with. I hated the movie regardless but the scenery should look great with the proper transfer on 4K.
its reference disc.but from what i understand part one is also a fantastic looking disc.
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there's so much nonsense and handwringing and false information about grain.
"what was the original look" exactly what I was saying when people were trying to compare various Cameron 4k films to their respective blu rays.
The scan was done in 4k, but the master was done in 2k as the file size would be too large for the efficient workflow at the time. UHD is an AI upscale of the 2010 master, as the framing/geometry is identical between the two.I haven't read the Ultra HD Blu-ray article yet, but I can say I'm a little confused about the response. I guess I do not appreciate how this is accomplished.
There is no "grain management" for the photochemical process. The original grain gets softened up due to generational loss, but that's the byproduct of the process.When you print film to film, grain management is used as the grain is designed to cancel itself out.
There is a major difference between fixing the issues/damage to the original print, and shaving off most of the grain.When you scan a film digitally, you fix it in place in the worst possible way. It would be foolish not to manage it.
actual AI doesn't even exist, so he's correct on that.The scan was done in 4k, but the master was done in 2k as the file size would be too large for the efficient workflow at the time. UHD is an AI upscale of the 2010 master, as the framing/geometry is identical between the two.
Mind you, the master being 2k isn't really a problem, issue that people have is regarding processing that has been done with it for the UHD release.
There is no "grain management" for the photochemical process. The original grain gets softened up due to generational loss, but that's the byproduct of the process.
There is a major difference between fixing the issues/damage to the original print, and shaving off most of the grain.
Also, the insistence that AI wasn't used on those remasters is bizarre, there are clearly the examples of model hallucinating the details in the final image. But overall I agree with the sentiment that it's less of a problem with a tool and more with those that that used it.
show me where he said anything about them being good or bad?That tweet has a lot of words in it when he can just use his eyes, James Cameron's movies look awful on high spec media. Simple as. Grain, noise reduction, colour grading, everything. I think it was the 3D Blu ray of T2 that was regarded as the best one because it had the LEAST amount of nonsense involved with it compared to some of the anniversary releases? I've lost track at this point
He is, but everybody and their moms have been calling deep learning models "AI" for some time now, including the very people that make them. It's basically arguing over semantics.
If it doesn't exist then why does he say this?
I may as well buy the 4K release of a movie (as long it is also includes a standard Blu-Ray disc) even if I don't own a 4K player yet, right? Figure I'm just future proofing myself.
I think it's worth it. Usually only a few more dollars for a 4K disc over the blu-ray.I may as well buy the 4K release of a movie (as long it is also includes a standard Blu-Ray disc) even if I don't own a 4K player yet, right? Figure I'm just future proofing myself.
I think it's worth it. Usually only a few more dollars for a 4K disc over the blu-ray.
Sometimes there are instances where the 4K is even cheaper than the blu-ray.
For future reference, you don't need a third item when Target does that sale. You can just order a second copy of one of them, and then cancel the duplicate after placing the order. The sale works by taking the value of one of the movies (the cheapest, if they're not the same price) and applying it equally as a discount towards all three. The discount is retained even if items are canceled or returned. So effectively, as long as you're sticking to similarly priced movies, it's more of a 33% off sale with some hoops.I had Scott Pilgrim and Pacific Rim 4K discs in my Target cart last night on the last day of their B2G1 sale but I couldn't decide on a third.
Yes, a one time buy of a 4K + BR combo pack saves you from having to double dip in the future.
I hate how they're doing some 4K Only Disc + Digital for major releases.
Maybe Warner would rather release it themselves? Not sure what else the hold up would be.Criterion July 2024:
Overall, an excellent month for releases! Though, it still disappoints me that Barry Lyndon 4K has yet to be announced. :(