They show their ass before they reach 100 posts. These people are not subtle with their true intentions.
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It would be but it's a lot harder to access and you can't be anonymous
I get it, 8chan is the root of all evil. I never cared for it. But I can't help but think that to some extend this is scapegoating.
Good to hear it's at least had some positive effect.
Yep. People keep pushing the "they''ll just go somewhere else" point think it's clever but it really isn't. Yes. They will have to move somewhere else, which requires time, effort, resources, information exchange. Projects in progress and former avenues for easy sharing and production of rhetoric are reset to zero. Despite the internet being open there's a reason people don't just establish a YT alternative for everyone to migrate to: because it's not easy and not perfect and things are lost in the transition. Same goes for these places where the alt-right congregate. It takes effort to move even on the internet and stomping down one anthill is a blow to the community within.
Again your studies are about the effects of a popular individual/source of hate speech.
Not the movement itself or even considers the replacements.
Nobody gives a fuck about deplatforming Alex Jones when his replacements are even worse.
Shut down all the chans and every single other place that promotes shit like this. All of these people should be in jail just for even being on those sites spewing that trash.
It's amazing because this is what some people thought Nazi Party rhetoric was pre-WW2. Just nonsense that belonged in the dark recesses of the ugly beer halls these weirdos met up in every week.
It wasn't until they gained power that it was too late
It's only scapegoating if people blame the entirety of its multiple inspired shootings on 8chan. It's just one piece of a large puzzle of heinous shit, and it's import to remove it, but it's not going to solve everything. Wiping its existence from the web will undoubtedly make the web a better place, though.
Twitter as a platform may be trash or whatever but it has its moments. Crazy that Voxility would have kept hosting them without knowing about their nature if @alexstamos didn't bring it up with them. It literally took them 30 minutes from Alex's tweet to get rid of 8chan for a second time today.
you do realize this goes beyond just the mass shooting incidents right? The amount of vile shit that gets posted there is insane.
Who's Alex Jone's replacement? 🤔 Can you provide receipts that for example that the parents of the Sandy Hook victims have got it even worse now that some mystery man that apparently you're well aware about has replaced Alex Jone when it come to him and his followers harassing the parents by claiming that the shooting was a hoax? Provide actual receipts and stop fucking pearl clutching and essentially saying "DO NOTHING"
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Yesterday all I had seen that 8chan was moving from Cloudflare to another service but recent developments are far more crippling, which is fantastic
Also good at Soph getting removed from youtube, she's a singularity of technology-fueled modern hatred.
Also good at Soph getting removed from youtube, she's a singularity of technology-fueled modern hatred.
I'm dying learning that all these hate sites were controlled by a literal monster
I went there by mistake a few weeks back thinking I was in Era. It was the most bizarre and confusing two minutes of my life lol
/pol/ had christchurch music video remixes and is mostly nazi memes. They didn't get rid of it, they concentrated it onto a handful of boards. 4chan lets far more people go 95% nazi.
Who is replacing Alex Jones? Nobody I've seen, which is kinda the point is it not?
No one beyond Trump and Fox News types are under any impression that the end of one website means the end of a problem. The fact that alt-right rhetoric isn't dead because 8chan is dead doesn't change the fact that it was a gathering place for the exact kind of violent bigots who encourage, praise and commit the type of biogted violence we've just dealt with in the US. In the journey to actually end this issue, places like 8chan need to be shut down. People that spread the kind of rhetoric that breeds bigots need to be forced to scramble and never have a chance to settle and build a comfortable platform for their purposes.
The new Alex Jones is some dude with 300 subscribers, probably
Its not illegal to host that content, but at least 4chan (at the moment) isn't the source of manifestoes for school shootings. As soon as that happens, you'll see the moderation shit itself and remove it. Just like what happened with Gamergate getting the site threatened with legal action. The only reason 8chan was largely untouchable until the hosts took it down is because the owner is a fucking pig farmer in buttfuck nowhere.
Perfect. Then deplatforming him did indeed work as intended.
Just one small example: If 8chan is unable to be restored in its current form, the Qanon movement's head is cut clear off. Q cannot make anymore drops because no one will know who is the real Q - and it's not like the real Q can prove it's actually them by making a specific prediction and coming true, because Q was a hoax all along. It's beautiful.
So which is this "worse than Alex Jones" fellow.
Oh, and it must be one with the same kind of reach.
I doubt it will be shut down for long, don't we expect some other dipshit company to swoop in and offer the website protection?
Quick Recap
A quick recap:
- 8chan: a cesspool of neo-nazis, white supremacists, anti-semitism and pedophiles. Owned by Jim Watkins and administered by this guy.
- NT Technologies: A company created by Jim Watkins to manage 8chan.
- Cloudfare: a DDoS mitigation company. Some time ago dropped support for The Daily Stormer after a mass-shooting. The CEO said he would never do it again because "muh free speech". They dropped 8chan because they are going public in a couple of months and bad press is not good for an IPO.
- Bitmitigate: another DDoS mitigation company, they are the replacement for Cloudfare. They are owned by Epik.
- Epik: a service provider, owned by a known white-supremacist and anti-semitic PoS, Robert Monster. They started hosting 8chan. They don't own any meaningful infrastructure, relying on Voxility to offer their services. They also host Gab and The Daily Stormer. This fine people are the management team. I'm sure that the neo-nazis in Gab and The Daily Stormer would love to purge a couple of them.
- Voxility: A not so big company offering cloud services. Panicked after the mentions on twitter started to blow-up. They didn't see to have a problem with offering their infrastructure to Gab and The Daily Stormer before. They stopped working with Epik after all the publicity.
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I am tired of hearing this super dumb take and this super dumb hydra analogy.
That literally JUST happened 3 hours ago and the dipshit CDN that was going to host them (BitMitigate) got shut down taking down 8chan and a few other sites like The Daily Stormer after their host (Voxility) learned about their activities.
They aren't some mythical beast, just a bunch of shit heads on a website. Geeze.
It's not, it's an informed attempt to decrease the amount of future shootings. That's all we can realistically do, and what the vast majority of people ever ask for.
Other solutions will be required elsewhere, this is not an issue where one magic solution will fix everything.
Hercules beat the hydra by cutting off heads until he could cut off the head that killed it, it's a weird analogy.
Isn't that kind of the point?
We don't even fucking know. The only thing we do know is that the alt right have been increasing and getting more violent. Whoever's spreading the message whether its one person or many is getting more effective and dangerous than Alex Jones will ever be.
Our crusade shouldn't be against Alex Jones whose nothing more than an opportunist taking advantage of hate. It should be the hate movement itself. Hurting Alex Jones doesn't mean a job well done.
Originally, but then moved to 8chan later in pretending that 4chan was compromised.
For anyone curious:
A group of lunatics was convinced by this "Q" person (who claims to be a high-ranking government official) that the entirety of the Russia investigation is a cover for the real investigation into Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party for their involvement in a satanic child sex trafficking ring. Trump is in on it, of course, and any day now, Hillary and the rest will all be arrested. The whole movement got a boost in visibility when the Roseanne reboot happened because she's a believer.
Can you provide a list of these replacements so we can also work on getting them deplatformed?