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92nd Oscar Nominees
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Setting aside the fact that I don't find any of the performances in Once Upon Etcetera to be very good so the point is moot, I wouldn't entirely disagree about the idea that the cast of Parasite is not the main attraction.
But clearly SAG Cast is treated as BP adjacent so the win is correct :)
Sometimes the academy screws up and gives the right movie the award.
*cough*Moonlight*cough*
That's where I'm at, but Parasite winning SAG and remaining in the conversation so late in the game is beyond anything one could have expected
Ah, thanks!
Just saw 1917 this evening. Such a well balanced, emotional, and technical marvel.
So all my marbles go to that.
Hollywood lost Ace Eddie, PGA and now SAG, it won't win DGA (that will be Parasite or 1917), and it's not eligible for WGA (which Parasite might also win). This means Hollywood will likely not have a single major guild win, thus it won't have enough strength for best picture.
Barring some sort of miracle Oscar screenplay win for Hollywood (which gives Hollywood a path to win but still doesn't resolve the zero major guild win issue), best picture is 1917 vs Parasite
I agree with most of this, except I think OScreenplay for Once Upon Etcetera is more likely than not, although it's the worst of the nominees, of course.
It's over for Hollywood.
The ACE snub sealed its fate. Birdman was the first film to win BP without an editing nom since Ordinary People (1980).
Was thinking for a moment that Slumdog Millionaire and Inglourious Basterds have more than a trivial amount of non-English in them, but yeah, obviously this is different. And beautiful <3
the talent jumped out!
also yeah, Hollywood is DOA. Losing PGA and SAG back to back was big bad. 1917 is winning BAFTA and DGA, Parasite winning WGA(hollywood wasn't eligible but still). Its got Brad, production design and possibly O. Screenplay, and honestly I wouldn't be shocked at this point if Bong got that. There's clearly passion for that movie.
Talent won tonight
the talent jumped out!
also yeah, Hollywood is DOA. Losing PGA and SAG back to back was big bad. 1917 is winning BAFTA and DGA, Parasite winning WGA(hollywood wasn't eligible but still). Its got Brad, production design and possibly O. Screenplay, and honestly I wouldn't be shocked at this point if Bong got that. There's clearly passion for that movie.
Depends on the year, but keep in mind that SAG, by virtue of representing the Actors Guild, is the largest guild in Hollywood. Actors make up a plurality of Oscar voters.
Hell, the 2010s had a better track record than most decades given we saw 12 Years A Slave, Spotlight, Moonlight, and The Shape of Water all win. That's a damned good lineup, and I'd throw my hat in the ring for Birdman, but I know that's a contentious choice.
Wouldn't be the first time Marty had a film with 10 noms and no wins -
Possible but unlikely, don't be sad, it's just publicy and other people's opinions.
the talent jumped out!
also yeah, Hollywood is DOA. Losing PGA and SAG back to back was big bad. 1917 is winning BAFTA and DGA, Parasite winning WGA(hollywood wasn't eligible but still). Its got Brad, production design and possibly O. Screenplay, and honestly I wouldn't be shocked at this point if Bong got that. There's clearly passion for that movie.
You have to remember everyone fucking loves Bong. So he has a shot at screenplay and director
Screenplay can absolutely happen. In fact, at this point I'm gonna go ahead and predict it. Hollywood is DOA outside Supporting Actor and maybe Production design.
Director is trickier with such a "I AM DIRECTING" showcase that is 1917 which is no doubt gonna win at the DGA/BAFTA on top of its PGA wins.
The random scenario I can see is
Pic - 1917
Direc - Bong
Screen - QT
I think he's more likely to win director than screenplay. This is based on nothing, by the way. DGA will help.
If there's ever a year for a Foreign language film to win it's this year. Honestly academy would be smart to make that unforgettable history instead of awarding another movie people will forget about in time, plus Parasite actually deserves it
It's one of the guilds where many vote on oscars. All the other stuff is kind of nonsense when it comes to the Oscars, but the guilds are huge.
Parasite also won an award from the Editors for editing.
Endgame would have won best picture if it had a title card that said the film was a true story of friendship.
We'll have a race on our hands if Parasite nabs DGA next weekend.
As promising as the Eddie and SAG wins have been, DGA has always been the most important plum in Parasite's bid for the Best Picture prize.
As promising as the Eddie and SAG wins have been, DGA has always been the most important plum in Parasite's bid for the Best Picture prize.
Yeah I guess that makes sense, it's just weird how late 1917 came and started completely dominating the field. It was always a probable strong contender but due to shorter oscar season it feels abrupt just how quickly other major contenders died
Eh, out of 7 last years only two pics won both director and BP. Neither of two major contenders have any major acting noms. It's a weird year. Recently Director started being treated sort of like a consolation prize for foreign directors, so this could still possibly happen. Only one British and one American director won this decade, 1917 winning BP and Bong winning director wouldn't be anything out of ordinary
Just saw Parasite, really excellent movie with great cinematography although without spoiling anything I'm not sure I liked the second half as much as the first. I'd rank it fourth for the year behind Irishman, Hollywood, and Marriage Story, and ahead of 1917. Still have to see JoJo, Little Women, and Ford.
Truly the best year for movies of the decade.
Truly the best year for movies of the decade.
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Acting and screenplay/editing were the strongest aspects of those films, tho.
1917's lack of acting and editing noms means it needs to win at least one major prize, and it's not going to be best screenplay.
But yeah, this year is indeed weird. Either we get the first BP winner with no acting or editing since 1932 or we get the first foreign language film ever. :O
The editing slight seems like a technicality. Pretty much any editing award that 1917 has been up for where it wasn't ruled out before noms because of their silly "single take doesn't count as actual editing" bias, it's won. So I don't put much stock in that omission. Especially when it's an omission that most people expected from the Academy because of the Birdman precedent.
Thus far 1917 has checked off all of the obligatory "no acting nom" precursor boxes. It'll only flub that if it misses Best Director. Winning Best Picture without acting noms, an editing nom, a Best Screenplay Oscar or a Best Director Oscar? Now that would be something out of the norm.
My own final personal rankings (and scores out of 10) for all nine Best Picture nominees now that I've cleared through the field...
1) Marriage Story - 9.5
2) Parasite - 9
3) Little Women - 8.5
4) The Irishman - 8
5) 1917 - 7.5
6) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood - 7
7) Ford v Ferrari - 6.5
8) Jojo Rabbit - 6.5
9) Joker - 5.5
I'm rooting for it as it's the only one that jumps in Quality for all aspects of the film
I remember last year when Glenn Close swept the precursors but ended up losing the Oscar. That could possibly happen to someone this year.
Same thing as when Julianne Moore won for a movie nobody saw. It's such a weird situation like people just accept it's that person'a turn.
The Acting categories I'm least sure about are the Supporting ones, a lot of shit can go wrong there.
Speculating why it might be different this year, Parasite has no acting nominations but the fact that it won their equivalent of BP shows that actors like the movie enough to vote for it. Can foresee it getting a lot of first through like third place votes, which might be enough.
Last year Black Panther also had zero acting nominations and won the PGA ensemble.
SAG is still important since it shows a wide spread support from the biggest voting bloc of the Academy. SAG choices tend to be kinda "basic", so the fact that a foreign language movie was able to break through that consensus is strong.
1917 is still the frontrunner but don't count parasite out until the best picture envelope is open
1917 is still the frontrunner but don't count parasite out until the best picture envelope is open
Still Alice made $44 million, which isn't huge but certainly isn't "movie nobody saw" territory, not that that ought to matter anyway. It wasn't even the lowest gross among that year's Actress nominees and was just under Wild.
And by all accounts, Moore's performance was damned good, especially if you look at that year's nominees, which were a fairly uneventful group.
It's not really the same. That was Julianne Moore's first Oscar and she was widely considered to be due. Zellweger already has an Oscar from Cold Mountain (pretty terrible performance BTW).
So what I'm trying to say is that I don't get it either. The female lead category is unfortunately quite weak this year but still I would definitely rather give it to Johansson or Ronan. Then again the academy didn't give Close (who was definitely due) an Oscar for a similarly mediocre and underseen film so maybe there is still hope.
"Wait, there's been a mistake! Parasite, you guys won best picture!"