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[9to5google] Stadia turned down an exclusive Death Stranding follow-up from Kojima
- Thread starter lunanto
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Whoever said that could have at least been a little more creative. "Game canceled because single player games don't sell" is already outdated.
Their source has to either have gotten their wires crossed or is straight bullshitting with this.
Because there is no way Google is that fucking stupid to actually believe that right? No market at all?
Because obviously Game Pass is ONLY for GaaS titles, none of the games they promote at E3 are single player and Starfield was actually delayed because he demanded Todd add multiplayer into it
I'm sorry, did I miss something or is that quote saying Death Stranding was re-released on Xbox as well?
Google wanted their "exclusives" to implement and utilize the cloud and share features. Particularly Crowd Play - the feature that lets you join a session directly from a YouTube livestream.
LOL, that is true. Nothing but GaaS in GP lately with me swapping between Immortality, Tinykin, and Deathloop.
Which seems weird when they were spending 10's of millions of dollars to just get big AAA games on the service that didn't utilize their features beyond streaming.
like it's stated on this thread, the article is poorly researched. I think the author was referring to the PC GP release of DS.
Phil's win streak continues.
Probably would not have changed anything, but I would have tried it for a Kojima game.
Probably would not have changed anything, but I would have tried it for a Kojima game.
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He will become the president of one of the three first parties next, that man can only fall upwards.
No, I got a better one. He will become president of Valve, and will make Steam a subscription service. Artifact Battle Royale by Jade Raymond will be the first game to launch with the service.
It's amazing how much money they must have spent doing the first 50% for Stadia, only to realize that getting compelling content would also cost money and then bailing immediately.
Guessing they pitched their Overdose game to Microsoft after and they signed off on it?
Unless it was something else entirely.
Unless it was something else entirely.
Stadia didn't make a single winning move.
OnLive launched by offering one in a selection of games for $1, so that people would try the service and input their payment information. It tried.
I have no idea what Stadia's strategy was. Take a swing, do something. Instead they followed in the footsteps of established consoles, just with a worse user experience. They spent tens of millions of dollars to offer the same games as other platforms at full price. Epic Games spent tens of millions of dollars to give users games for free.
If they didn't want an exclusive Kojima Productions game, and the inevitable Game Awards supported hype marketing, they should have wrapped it up then.
OnLive launched by offering one in a selection of games for $1, so that people would try the service and input their payment information. It tried.
I have no idea what Stadia's strategy was. Take a swing, do something. Instead they followed in the footsteps of established consoles, just with a worse user experience. They spent tens of millions of dollars to offer the same games as other platforms at full price. Epic Games spent tens of millions of dollars to give users games for free.
If they didn't want an exclusive Kojima Productions game, and the inevitable Game Awards supported hype marketing, they should have wrapped it up then.
Regardless of whether it was a direct Death Stranding game or not, you don't say no to Kojima games. I haven't enjoyed any of his games but he has a very devout player base that will follow him to most platforms. Complete buffoonery over at Google.
Yep, it's just poorly worded.
This is almost certainly the Xbox game now.
Semi solid infrastructure and making QUIC the protcol were huge to in making people feel good about response granted their routing isn't shit.
QUIC is also now becoming the internet protocol for all the big tech companies FTR. It will replace TCP in the new few years and before the middle of the next decade.
They bungled a lot of other things these two areas were damn good. Not doing a proper queueing mechanism and no priorities bit them in the butt. None of these things were gonna change that crap subscription model which doomed the service if you ask me.
I see it less as a solid decision and more like a natural decision based on their effort towards Stadia. If they actually gave a damn about developing the tech and getting people involved with it, this could have been a big deal. Not by itself, I agree with you, but the idea would be that they have a strong library with titles such as a Kojima exclusive. Stadia overall feels like it is either terribly managed or was just a short sighted money grab.
If anyone needs a source to debunk this rumor, even though I think its pretty obvious, this is untrue.
Death Stranding 2 is in development (and for some insiders to know I'm not bullshitting about this in the future, its internal codename is Ocean), but Kojima has had a long standing deal with Sony on this, which is being analyzed if Sony and Kojima Productions should renew their contracts after DS2 or not at present, but was never in question before this due to a multi-game contract Sony and Kojima Productions have. But Death Stranding 2 itself was always plotted to be with Sony. I'm not going to say a single actual thing about the game itself, not now or in the future, so don't ask even if people figure out later I'm 100% telling the truth about the codename and contract stuff. But any murmurs about a DS2 with anyone other than Sony is bullshit. The deal with Xbox was never meant to be DS2, this rumor is just false, Sony and Kojima Productions have a multi-game contract that expires after DS2 and at present is being decided by both parties whether to continue their relationship or end it after DS2, and that is the truth.
Death Stranding 2 is in development (and for some insiders to know I'm not bullshitting about this in the future, its internal codename is Ocean), but Kojima has had a long standing deal with Sony on this, which is being analyzed if Sony and Kojima Productions should renew their contracts after DS2 or not at present, but was never in question before this due to a multi-game contract Sony and Kojima Productions have. But Death Stranding 2 itself was always plotted to be with Sony. I'm not going to say a single actual thing about the game itself, not now or in the future, so don't ask even if people figure out later I'm 100% telling the truth about the codename and contract stuff. But any murmurs about a DS2 with anyone other than Sony is bullshit. The deal with Xbox was never meant to be DS2, this rumor is just false, Sony and Kojima Productions have a multi-game contract that expires after DS2 and at present is being decided by both parties whether to continue their relationship or end it after DS2, and that is the truth.
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True true.
I agree with this take as well.
I also believe it's a reflection of current industry state, streaming isn't the defacto way of playing for a lot of people... Yet.
A service built a bit early, combining that with the lackluster library + Google usual efforts
Does Sony has some problems with Kojima? I wonder why they are not 100% on board with third possible project? And why they are deciding right now and not after the shipping of the second game?
Not really a problem, I won't get any further into what I've been hearing as that's frankly their business, but just in a broad scope there's both good reasons for them to either renew their contracts relationship or separate and move onto other things after DS2. To see whatever side their discussions end up on, though likely won't know the result for a long time unless someone else leaks it as I'm setting my line in the sand this is the most I'm going to say on DS2 (Still feeling out what I'm comfortable with sharing, I don't want much to do with the Kojima conspiracy nuts, though I am aware even posting what I did will attract some of that, but I'm positive I can take a no budge stance on this and just throw out the dirty bathwater if anyone's going to claim DS2 was anyone but Sony right now. But in the future, it'll depend on whenever both parties decide to pursue a further relationship or not).
What. They passed on a streaming exclusive Kojima title!
Think of what we could have had!
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Think of what we could have had!
This is an obvious joke about streaming quality in my rural ol' part of England
Would imagine a good reason is Kojima being more interested in doing smaller projects than AAA games, which is what Sony wants.
Hey I have gigabit internet and a lot of the time that's what cloud gaming looks to me as well so you're def. not wrong lolWhat. They passed on a streaming exclusive Kojima title!
Think of what we could have had!
This is an obvious joke about streaming quality in my rural ol' part of England
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I think the outlet mentioned here used the expression "Death Stranding follow-up" in the title just to gain some traction.
The game the article refers to is probably now the game Kojima is doing for Xbox, even though it is not clearly specified there, voluntarily or not.
Source on that being his primary interest?
Pretty normal for contracts to get reevaluated at their expiration.
I'd prefer if you didn't, if that's okay with you. I understand if you or someone does, and thank you for asking, while I didn't really say anything earth shattering (honestly pretty basic stuff), I know how feverish some Kojima fans can get and over-thinking.
Of course I wont.
And you know I joke but I always ask.
Don't want to make a thread that will cause you problems or make you uncomfortable.
I would have also said no if it was something like Death Stranding...
Jokes aside: what an idiotic move. Even non gamers know what Kojima brings.
Jokes aside: what an idiotic move. Even non gamers know what Kojima brings.
Just speculation. We had heard from him that he's interested in doing movies/shows, he started that podcast, has a smaller game with Xbox, etc. Just saying he might prefer to do more projects than keep hooked to another AAA franchise like he was with MGS. If what dusk is saying is accurate, that would explain why they already decided on this other than just waiting to see if DS2 will do well to continue the franchise or not. But again, just speculation on my part.
