He taught me how to parry because I literally couldn't get him down below 75% health without it. After a couple hours with him I turned into a parry master and NG+ was miles easier because of it
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He taught me how to parry because I literally couldn't get him down below 75% health without it. After a couple hours with him I turned into a parry master and NG+ was miles easier because of it
But I kinda just mauled through him in one try. Then again I spent a lot of time dying before him practicing gunshots on the regular monsters. There are far far far far harder bosses and some even shortly after him.
the chalice unlock boss and the lava doggy in the chalice are both leaps and bounds harder
He's the first mandatory boss in the game. The Cleric Beast is entirely optional.
Yea BSB was hell for me. That's when I had to look up the inner workings of the game.
He was my first boss as well. I fought the Cleric waaaay after FG
BSB was probably the easiest boss in the game for me. I really struggled with some of the optional bosses, and Amelia for a while. And oh god, the Shadows.
Bosses where parrying wasn't a thing were extremely difficult for me.
Bosses where parrying wasn't a thing were extremely difficult for me.
I did cleric first becuase after going in there and dying I wasnt about to lose my souls LOL
It depends on how early you tackle BSB doing it with low hp and getting basically poisoned over and over from a bad play basically equaled death, the sooner you do it the more of a pain in the ass it is extemely so with no summoned help. It's pretty squishy though so if you go back and do it a bit later it melts pretty quickly.
I did a very low vitality/low level run, so basically everything was guaranteed to kill me in 1-2 hits, anyway. But BSB seemed easier to stagger and counter with parries and such, and also seemed easier to do damage to. I really liked the fight because it felt like a match for my build, for once; all speedy dodging and parrying.
But it also meant I struggled immensely in later fights that others didn't have issues with.
I still have no idea how people reached Father G before Cleric xD
Everyone has a different view; but for me, Father G was the second toughest boss in the entire game - I think it's just the result of still learning the intricacies of combat and learning how to use your environment.
Amelia gave me the most trouble; her hit boxes were huge.
After that, I don't think any other boss took me more than 2 or 3 tries.
Amelia gave me the most trouble; her hit boxes were huge.
After that, I don't think any other boss took me more than 2 or 3 tries.
Well, first mandatory boss. :p
Yeah, some people beat him first try. And congrats to those who did.
But his speed and aggression, combined with the fact that you can barely level yet (or can't level at all, if you missed Cleric Beast entirely), means that you have very little room to breathe. He punishes panic mashing and panic healing, both of which are concepts that are taught to you more slowly in Souls games. Father G hits you with all of those things at once, and it's very rough for a newcomer to catch on to all of these things right off the bat. That's why he can be very hard to beat, and is often where a lot of people put down the game.
Like you said, if you can parry reliably then he can be beaten that way. But if you don't (and people typically aren't comfortable with that mechanic so early in the game) then he is definitely way harder than what you'd expect from one of the first bosses you see.
Later bosses may be stronger, but by then you're more familiar with your weapon, the game's mechanics, your build, and so on.
eh... oil jugs and molotovs completely trivialize father G. I didn't learn to Parry until WAY after.
He's definitely going to test how well you've been paying attention to game mechanics, but there are a number of ways to beat that guy.
If you're trying to play this game like Dark Souls or thinking "I'll just button mash my way through" then yeah, you'll have a bad time.
You make some fair points there. As a risk averse player I definitely shied away from parries, which admittedly made some boss fights longer than they needed to be!
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Managed to beat Amelia with the help of TWO companions. My clip of the fight didn't save to Twitch so I'm not able to post it, but it took about 20 seconds and was the most amazing thing ever.
Got my ass handed to me twice by the Shadows of Yharnam. Went back and got the Charred Hunter's Armor and kicked their butt. Really cool fight.
Managed to beat Amelia with the help of TWO companions. My clip of the fight didn't save to Twitch so I'm not able to post it, but it took about 20 seconds and was the most amazing thing ever.
Got my ass handed to me twice by the Shadows of Yharnam. Went back and got the Charred Hunter's Armor and kicked their butt. Really cool fight.
Vicar is like, the easiest boss in the whole game for me personally, hahaha. She's really really easy, especially if you use fast serrated weapons like saw cleaver/spear.
I think you have to enable "store past broadcasts" in the Twitch settings.
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You beat Amelia and got to SoY already? Impressive. Just make sure to go back to Cathedral Ward, there's a lot to that place.
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I will probably tomorrow, I feel like taking on BSB. I've been to Old Yharnam but not to that boss so I'll try it out.
Started up a new character to try and play along with the thread. Hit me up if you need a second person for any boss fights or just a bodyguard for general mob clearing/exploration.
Parrying works there as well. It's always good to learn the attack patterns, like when BSB is about to jump on you.
It's both funny and interesting how many people skip all of that in TL:DR fashion. It comes up every now and then, and a couple of my friends didn't even bother to inspect the area to find the weapons near the spawning point, so they continued without weapons after their initial death.
Sounds like you're doing great! Did you thoroughly explore the forest and find the way back to a very familiar place yet? Major story implications!
He took me about thirty attempts on my first try. I've beaten him dozens of times since and yet he still gets my pulse running every time I face him. He's an excellent boss, but he is also a brutal early-game skill check.
I always found Gascoigne kinda hard to parry outside of one or two utterly blatant moments. Frankly he'd be one of the easiest bosses in the game if he had a more favourable arena. If you want to fight him head on and dodge his attacks he's very straightforward as long as you don't get stuck on the eleven billion gravestones dotted around. There's a raised area though where there aren't any thankfully so it kind of trivialises the whole thing.
He is the first part of an amazing three-boss streak (FG, BSB, Amelia) that is then followed by a very mixed bag of bosses that doesn't reach the same heights until you do the ending or the DLC. But man that was a good run.
Threaded Cane is frustration mode in my opinion. Doing a strength build that ended up with Kirkhammer or holy blade was far less stressful for my first run.
Threaded Cane is frustration mode in my opinion. Doing a strength build that ended up with Kirkhammer or holy blade was far less stressful for my first run.
I'm at a similar place and I think I might need to backtrack a bit because I saw a turnoff at one point with white stuff on the ground and didn't follow it.
After going back and forth the night before opening shortcuts in Hemwick Charnel Lane and the Forbidden Woods I was able to take out two bosses. The Witch of Hemwick - which was a meh fight - it actually took me a few tries because of my own carelessness and thinking it was too easy. And then I beat the Shadow of Yarnam on my first attempt. Interesting on the Shadow my strategy was to take them out one at a time. So I took out the sword guy first, and then did some damage to the other two but focused on one of them after they transformed. When the snakes came out I was like WTF, and nearly died but killed the last guy basically one hit away from death. I looked up how other people beat that boss later on and most had a strategy of getting them all down to 30% so the last phases are shorter. This was the first boss I've beaten on the first try.
So what do you guys recommend I do next - feel like my three options are
1) keep going down the path in the forbidden woods after Shadow, I haven't gone through those doors because I went back to the Dream after beating the Shadow.
2) Go back to the forbidden woods and locate that familiar place - is it the path I mentioned?
3) Go back to the Grand Cathedral and head to the right now that I picked up the tonsil stone in the Forbidden Woods - I think something alluded that I should go back that way.
Any particular order you recommend, or would now be a good time to the first Chalice dungeon? I'm loving the game so much that I did purchase the DLC, but I've heard this is something I should not attempt until I'm close to finished with the main game.
I did Cane for first run, and while I did have some problems with BSB and others, it was still super fun. I also found out about some moves like backstep hits way too late, which is an amazing one for the Cane.
Gascoigne is such a hard boss for players new to the series. I can't think of such a hard roadblock in any of the other games that comes so early.
O&S and Prince Lothric / Lorian are harder, but by the time you face them you are halfway through the game or 3/4 of the way through, respectively and you probably know the game to an extent and have more of an investment.
It's not a complaint , though; I just find it interesting. Hino Emma in Nioh is similar in that she's one of the hardest parts of that game that comes very early.
O&S and Prince Lothric / Lorian are harder, but by the time you face them you are halfway through the game or 3/4 of the way through, respectively and you probably know the game to an extent and have more of an investment.
It's not a complaint , though; I just find it interesting. Hino Emma in Nioh is similar in that she's one of the hardest parts of that game that comes very early.
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They were the strangest boss I've faced and it was more laborious and chore. I don't mind a boss that is more mysterious and a puzzle but
this was more or less just kill the women with the sickles and find the light and then slash them when the appear, rinse/repeat. like I said I died a few times, but mainly just overconfidence and not being patient and taking out the summoned enemies before going after the witches. During one run one of the witches started exploding on me and that killed me, but I never saw that again - perhaps that is what happens when you don't do enough damage and they start to glow purple, usually I just hacked away until they disappeared
The Shadow was cool though. So far of the bosses I've played I rank them as follows in terms of how much I enjoyed them (and also as it turns out in terms of difficulty - even though I beat Shadow on first run):
1) Blood Starved Beast - the hardest for me and most rewarding - the boss that made me learn parrying
2) Father G
3) Shadow of Yarnam
4) Vicar Amelia
5) Cleric Beast
6) Witch of Hemwick
Don't do 2) before beating the area after the Woods. 1) and 3) are up to you, one area is optional :
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Awesome will do!!!
Ummm no???
If you find a long ladder to climb inside a cave, then that's the place I'm talking about.
don't go here before beating the area after the woods or else you'll miss a very important item.
I'M STIIIIILLL
IN A DREEEEAAAAAMMM
SNAAAAKKEEEE EAAATEEEEERRRR
What's the item? Its been a while since I played Bloodborne. And put it in spoiler tags, please.
It is seriouly a really long ladder.
There are backstep hits?
If you go to the area we are talking about after Brygenwerth, you'll meet an NPC there, if you kill them then you get an Umbilical Cord. If you go to this place before killing Rom, and kill the NPC, you lose out on this Cord which is a crucial item for an ending.
obviously spoilers
the umbilical cord, you only get it post Rom. It's pretty important because you need 3 and there's only 4 available and 2 are missable.
Yeah, If you only do a backstep, meaning pressing circle without a directional input, and then press either attack button, some weapons do special attacks on them. The Cane for example has some sort of a whirling strike forward with incredible reach instead of horizontal or vertical slashes. One of the coolest and most useful moves in the game imo. The Pizza Cutter basically has a super quick version of the fully charged R2 attack, which is really useful, too.
I'm currently trying the Pizza Cutter, but after I'm finished with the playthrough, you bet your ass I'm back on the Cane lol.
Man, fuck, I need to get me a PS4 of my own now.
Played through the entire thing on a friend's PS4...
Did you play with the DLC? Because this DLC is one of the best I've ever experienced.
If you have the disposable income just go for it lol.
1. I don't. Student.
2. No TV.
3. I played through most of the DLC at a friend's house as well, got to Living Failures and stopped there.