The Cane is absolutely worth using throughout the game; it's an excellent weaponlso I have a threaded cane at +6, is it worth keeping upgrading it,
The Cane is absolutely worth using throughout the game; it's an excellent weaponlso I have a threaded cane at +6, is it worth keeping upgrading it,
Almost all of them yes. Some bosses are too big to be parried though.
If the boss is at least 1.5 times of your height (like Cleric Beast) then it's pretty much unparryable.
You can however attack their weaknesses and make them crumble, allowing you to do a critical attack.
For example if you attack Cleric Beast's head and deal enough damage it will fall down in pain, making it vulnerable.
Funny, ROM is super easy for me. Maybe it's my specific strat.
Update:
Well I can now say that I have beaten Bloodborne and the Old Hunters officially. It means a lot to me because I'm an average gamer that had anxiety about the difficulty of this as a souls noob. I used the online storage to get all endings. On the endings [BIG SPOILERS AHEAD]...I'm not exactly sure which is the good ending, lol. I mean giving yourself up to death seems like the chickenshit way out, but in a sense it feels like the happiest ending and what I personally would have wanted if I was trapped inside the nightmare, to see daylight and for it to be over. I love the ending when you beat Gerhman without the umbilical cord and essentially replace him to watch over the Dream. With the umbilical cord too is very interesting....do you become a Great One like several of the bosses or are you replacing the moon presence?
Update:
Well I can now say that I have beaten Bloodborne and the Old Hunters officially. It means a lot to me because I'm an average gamer that had anxiety about the difficulty of this as a souls noob. I used the online storage to get all endings. On the endings [BIG SPOILERS AHEAD]...I'm not exactly sure which is the good ending, lol. I mean giving yourself up to death seems like the chickenshit way out, but in a sense it feels like the happiest ending and what I personally would have wanted if I was trapped inside the nightmare, to see daylight and for it to be over. I love the ending when you beat Gerhman without the umbilical cord and essentially replace him to watch over the Dream. With the umbilical cord too is very interesting....do you become a Great One like several of the bosses or are you replacing the moon presence?
The trophy from the Great One ending says " You became an infant Great One, lifting humanity into its next childhood. "
It's probably the best one because the wake up ending just have the world staying the same, so another hunt will start again and again.
Staying in the Hunter's dream is clearly a bad ending.
You are becoming an infant great one, yes. And it is the good ending in a lot of ways. You ascended like nobody did ever before, not the people lining their brain with eyes, nor otherwise. You truly achieved the knowledge and insight (lel) that everyone who was doing misdeeds in this game to get there failed to get, whether it would be by experimenting on the fishing hamlet people, sacrificing an entire school to get into the nightmare like Micolash, or using the blood and turning everyone into beasts like Laurence (and founding the hunters workshop to deal with said beasts, but still continuing on using the blood.)
I think if you just wake up, eventually you will turn into a beast. You didn't slay the Moon Presence, and so the cycle of Gherman leading hunters through the dream and the night of the hunt continue
Do that, it's some of the best lore in gaming imo. Have fun!Thanks guys. To you and others that have helped me on this thread. I feel like I am just now going to start to get a better idea of what all was going on in the game now and I'm excited to try to better understand the lore. I'm going to watch some Vaati videos and just try to dig in and understand this as I go through NG+1. I appreciate how mysterious this all is and how it made me feel as a player uncovering mysteries, but now I'm excited about digging into the lore with endgame spoilers out of the way now.
Thanks guys. To you and others that have helped me on this thread. I feel like I am just now going to start to get a better idea of what all was going on in the game now and I'm excited to try to better understand the lore. I'm going to watch some Vaati videos and just try to dig in and understand this as I go through NG+1. I appreciate how mysterious this all is and how it made me feel as a player uncovering mysteries, but now I'm excited about digging into the lore with endgame spoilers out of the way now.
Not great actually. But there is a subreddit for ppl looking for help. That's really the only way I was able to find others to play withThis thread made me re-download the game and play it again lol I think I will finish my NG+ playthrough. Does anyone knows if the game still has a good online community? I feel like helping some people :)
Heh, BSB gave me a bit more trouble on my strength build (Kirkhammer/Hunter's Axe). Four tries... or was it five?
I think the crux to this fight' lies in his third phase and how it differs from the first two. It looks like it is the same, just more dangerous, but it isn't.
The first two can be approached as regular "dodge and counter" phases, with the second one obviously more dangerous than the first due to the poison. It takes a while, but slow and steady works well enough. But in the third phase you get poisoned just by being near him and suddenly the fight becomes a DPS race. Maybe it is telling that I beat him the moment my antidotes were depleted and I had to act. He also didn't punish as relentlessly as in the first two phases, in which I constantly had to create distance after poking him just to prevent myself from getting swiped/pounced. The damage that he did in the third phase was ultimately easily outhealed by my own offense.
All in all, still a fun boss fight.
Next time I fight him I will try to go full offense from the start and see how far that gets me.
Yep, well said.One thing for sure is that you need patience and observation for this game. If you do not like patient play you will be frustrated.
The game primarily uses fear of unknown to elevate its level of difficulty. Some examples:
· Environment
o Layout
o Hazards/traps
· Enemy
o Placement
o Type/movesets
· Boss
o Movement and abilities
The good thing is all of the above slowly lose their advantage once the player gains intelligence on the above. This is the natural course. I usually sacrifice a few deaths just to gain intel and build my confidence if I have a feeling a new area might kick my butt. I will simply sprint through, check out the enemy placement, note environmental traps etc then die.
When it comes to bosses the natural course is for you to die but realizing what killed you. If you don't stop to think about what killed you and how to fix it, you will be frustrated to hell.
Boss tips
Use a few deaths (don't waste vials) just for intelligence gathering:
Examine the environment to discern any tactical advantage (there's a reason Papa G human form cannot break the gravestones but his beastform can…)
Pre-animation to their moves so you can tell which one is coming
Which dodge direction will work for which moves, sometimes you have to dodge 2x in a row in different directions bef you get an opening to attack
Which moves you can parry/visceral (not all bosses or moves can be parried)
Is there an item that can change the behaviour of the boss (music box, blood cocktails etc)
Some have weak spots that you can repeatedly hit to stagger them, then you can visceral with R1. Listen to the deep bass sound as your clue.
Use sprint to GTFO of moves like Cleric Beast's anime drop from the sky move, sometimes spam roll doesn't always work
I have to say this is exactly my style of play. I like to be challenged both mind and reflex. I took down the Watchdog in Chalice Dungeon solo (took me many tries) and it was freaking bad ass. I love the loop of going into a boss fight and getting wrecked and it seems impossible. But then after gaining more information I can easily dispose of him.
I'm playing the DLC now and got to a boss that obliterated me. Can't wait to take him down. Love it.
Remember - dying, a lot, is OK. Just know why you died and don't go back thinking you need to roll faster or mash R1 quicker.
How do I beatThanks!Amygdala? I hardly do any damage and eventually I just get killed after getting caught in a few of her attacks. I'm in NG+ btw if that makes any difference.
I can't even find the first boss, I keep going around in circles.
How do I beatThanks!Amygdala? I hardly do any damage and eventually I just get killed after getting caught in a few of her attacks. I'm in NG+ btw if that makes any difference.
Bait out attacks where it slams the ground and go for head hits. Alternatively if you're good at timing your dodge roll's i-frames you can get the boss stuck in a loop of jumping leading to an easy kill.How do I beatThanks!Amygdala? I hardly do any damage and eventually I just get killed after getting caught in a few of her attacks. I'm in NG+ btw if that makes any difference.
One more thing. I think I'm now ready to say that Bloodborne is my personal GOAT game. And I say this as someone not an existing fan of the genre or horror games in general.
The gameplay, the artstyle, the enemy/boss variety, the lore and story you can explore and think about, the amount of content with the DLC added, the under-rated graphics, the replayability, how much this game effects your emotions just booting it up......its all too much.
And naturally I'm going to say GOTG too, and for me I think its an interesting perspective coming to this only after playing BOTW, GoW, Mario Odyssey, RDR2, DOOM, and lots of other recent GOTY contenders that came out well after it (caveats....no Witcher 3 yet or Nier A and some others).
I heard those of you keep telling me this was the GOTG and I set out to experience it and I wanted to love it as much as so many others did and had a lot of anxiety that the difficulty might be too much for me and didn't want to get stuck and not experience it all. I came in determined to plow through no matter how many times it took. I did and found that the game is difficult, but fair and manageable and I never used co-op or summon assistance (which is another thing to look forward to trying on second run).
One more thing. I think I'm now ready to say that Bloodborne is my personal GOAT game. And I say this as someone not an existing fan of the genre or horror games in general.
The gameplay, the artstyle, the enemy/boss variety, the lore and story you can explore and think about, the amount of content with the DLC added, the under-rated graphics, the replayability, how much this game effects your emotions just booting it up......its all too much.
And naturally I'm going to say GOTG too, and for me I think its an interesting perspective coming to this only after playing BOTW, GoW, Mario Odyssey, RDR2, DOOM, and lots of other recent GOTY contenders that came out well after it (caveats....no Witcher 3 yet or Nier A and some others).
I heard those of you keep telling me this was the GOTG and I set out to experience it and I wanted to love it as much as so many others did and had a lot of anxiety that the difficulty might be too much for me and didn't want to get stuck and not experience it all. I came in determined to plow through no matter how many times it took. I did and found that the game is difficult, but fair and manageable and I never used co-op or summon assistance (which is another thing to look forward to trying on second run).
I shall partake when I am done with Bloodborne.
I shall partake when I am done with Bloodborne.
This game is growing on me, but so far Dark Souls 3 is still my favorite Soulsborne by quite a distance. I'm just not a fan of gothic horror... or cosmic horror for that matter. Gives me conniptions.
This thread made me re-download the game and play it again lol I think I will finish my NG+ playthrough. Does anyone knows if the game still has a good online community? I feel like helping some people :)
Good Hunter. Now, time for you to play Dark Souls.
Fear not the Dark, my friend. And, let the feast begin.
Unless you don't care about lore at all, I would highly recommend playing at least DS1 first. DS3 is the end of the trilogy after all and the game relies heavily on DS1 in particular. From what I understand, DS2 isn't referenced nearly as often, so you could skip that one. (That is what I did; I jumped right into DS3 after I finished DS1R last year.)My main concern about DS is that I can be inpatient, and in many respects that served me well in Bloodborne, particularly with the re-gain mechanic. So hopefully I will be able to adapt.
Should DS be played in order btw or could I start with 3?
Yes, I bought the Dark Souls triology last year and I will certainly be giving it a go. Although hard for me to pass up Sekiro first if it reviews well.
My main concern about DS is that I can be inpatient, and in many respects that served me well in Bloodborne, particularly with the re-gain mechanic. So hopefully I will be able to adapt.
Should DS be played in order btw or could I start with 3?
Not sure if you do anything wrong, in my playthrough I hardly farmed (if I did it was in the first part of the game, I would go in the first level, If I recall, the first lamp you activated and go take the shortest route with the elevator to father Gascoign, you encounter multiple huge fat enemies that drop vials) but I would say when you pass BSB and have placed your stats right (have enough health because a vial will heal a certain amount of %) after that it became easier to level and acquire blood echoes.So I completed DS3 and DS2 but Bloodborne rubbed the wrong way.
Sometimes in the souls game I would need to try a boss 20 times but due to the blood vial mechanic in Bloodborne I couldn't not just keep trying as it means I need to grind for blood vials for 20 minutes just making the process extremely annoying.
I gave up at blood starved beast and said I'd come back to it, but just thinking about having to grind out blood vials to make any progress just bums me out.
Was I doing something wrong ?
I think it is definitely one of the failings of this system. On one hand it is nice to have a huge supply of healing on hand and plenty more to find through general gameplay. But against difficult bosses you can burn through your stockpile deceptively fast. BSB in particular has the problem that the Scourge Beasts you encounter on your way there (at least two, but possibly five if you take a short detour) seem to exclusively drop Blood Stone Shards as opposed to the 2 blood vials they would normally drop.So I completed DS3 and DS2 but Bloodborne rubbed the wrong way.
Sometimes in the souls game I would need to try a boss 20 times but due to the blood vial mechanic in Bloodborne I couldn't not just keep trying as it means I need to grind for blood vials for 20 minutes just making the process extremely annoying.
I gave up at blood starved beast and said I'd come back to it, but just thinking about having to grind out blood vials to make any progress just bums me out.
Was I doing something wrong ?
I would start at Oedon Tomb (where you fight Gascoigne) and run towards Central Yharnam, because that way you don't have to deal with the flaming boulder on the bridge.Not sure if you do anything wrong, in my playthrough I hardly farmed (if I did I would go in the first level, If I recall, the first lamp you activated and go take the shortest route with the elevator to father Gascoign, you encounter multiple huge fat enemies that drop vials) but I would say when you pass BSB and have placed your stats right (have enough health because a vial will heal a certain amount of %) after that it became easier to level and acquire blood echoes.
You haven't known true pain until you've fought the Loran Darkbeast.
You haven't known true pain until you've fought the Loran Darkbeast.
So I completed DS3 and DS2 but Bloodborne rubbed the wrong way.
Sometimes in the souls game I would need to try a boss 20 times but due to the blood vial mechanic in Bloodborne I couldn't not just keep trying as it means I need to grind for blood vials for 20 minutes just making the process extremely annoying.
I gave up at blood starved beast and said I'd come back to it, but just thinking about having to grind out blood vials to make any progress just bums me out.
Was I doing something wrong ?
For someone who wants to use a tongue so much, you could always respond with thrusting.Hey guys, just met a real cute Brainsucker in a shady backalley near the Cathedral Ward. We hit it off immediately, but they wanted to use tongue, like, right away and I don't know if I am comfortable with that. What would be the best way to make this clear to them? I tried bashing their brains in with a kirkhammer, but they were real persistent.
Sorry if this is a weird question, I'm just hoping to gain some insight here.
Insight lost to Brainsuckers: 6
The good news is that I haven't used a single Madman's Knowledge yet, so I have plenty to spare. I also defeated the Witches of Hemwick (two tries), discovered a back entrance into Iosefka's Clinic (hence the Brainsucker) and I am well on my way into the Forbidden Woods. It was nice hearing Patches's voice again. I wonder how he will try to fuck me over this time.
Rom ain't hard bro. I'd say Kos, Amy, Gehrman and a few others were wayyyy more annoying and tough to beat.
He's not hard at all. All you need to do is stay somewhat close to him, dodge his attacks and be aggressive after he stops attacking. When he gains a buff halfway through the fight, stay near him so he doesn't use an AOE attack that can one shot you if you don't have high enough vitality to eat it. I beat him twice for 2 endings. I pretty much took him down with my Ludwig Holy Blade and Bolt paper.
AndrewGPK if you die to MP, you don't have to fight Gehrman again. I died once, but she's SUPER easy. When she use the reduce HP to 1, get in as many hits as possibly to rally your health back up since she literally just sits there. Took me only 1-2 tries to kill her.
UPDATE: I'm in the Great Pthumerian Chalice now, with only 1 trophy left. Should be done by this afternoon. So excited and I bought the DLC for the Whirligig Saw and Holy Moonlight Sword.
Thanks, this worked a lot better. Three good, hard thrusts were all it took to get them off me.For someone who wants to use a tongue so much, you could always respond with thrusting.
....I meant to use the hammer's sword mode and do a thrust attack since they are weak to thrust damage. What are y'all looking at me for??
That is good to know, thanks.It's best to save them for the Blood Rock, that enables you to upgrade a weapon to +10. It costs 60 Insight, and you can buy only one of them during a playthrough from the Insight shop in the Hunter's Dream. It becomes available there after you've beaten the second to last boss in the main game. Its name and location:Mergo's Wet Nurse in Nightmare of Mensis.