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A Crash Team Racing Remake may be announced at The Game Awards 2018 (Update: Eurogamer confirms)
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Just to clarify, Sony doesn't own the CTR IP; Acti does. There's nothing stopping Acti from rebooting the series or greenlighting a sequel. But Sony does own the original game itself, so unless that has quietly changed, there is zero chance of a remake going multiplatform.
I loved CTR! (Not better than DKR, but what is?) But seriously, it was such a fun game, and such a challenging racer--especially those Relic Races! I'm totally in for sure. I just hope it doesn't steal Team Sonic Racing's thunder by releasing too close. I know some are thinking, "Yeah, there's no way CTR DOESN'T do that!" but still...
Sony owns a copyright over the actual, finished product on the disc (or digital storefront) for the purposes of protecting the sale of said product, but they don't own the actual content in any meaningful way beyond the actual source code. It's produced under a license and as you've said, all the actual IP (names, characters, locations, gameplay, concepts, visuals, audio, etc) are all Activision's property. Considering the remake would likely not use any original source code, Activision can do whatever they want with it because it won't be using the one piece Sony actually owns.
Acti's not free to remake the game just because it owns the IP. That'd be grounds for copyright infringement as it'd be a replication of the product Sony owns (i.e. a "derivative work"). The situation with CTR is different to that of the other PSX Crash games, where Sony owns only the original source code.
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If it was a remaster I could see an argument for exclusivity. However, if I was Activision, I wouldn't spend the time 'remaking' a game just to confine it to one platform, I'd rather do a sequel or offshoot to circumvent that restriction, especially if I owned the IP.
For all intents and purposes, you're not wrong, but by my understanding neither of us is probably 100% accurate -- but I should stop myself there and be upfront that my hypothesis on all this is based off of semi-related ownership information from years back, when I had a much closer connection to the teams behind Crash, and obviously I can't share or delve into that, so I'll concede the argument rather than say anything that may cross any lines.
sony may own CTR, but they basically can't do anything with it since they don't own the crash name, and activision isn't going to bother remaking a game if it had to be stuck on sony platforms. they have either made a deal with sony (timed exclusive or exclusive content) or this is a completely new crash racing game.
That is my thought as well. Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow morning :3
Which means they probably cut a deal where CTR remake will be Sony exclusive for one year and then be on every platform that is viable.
The point may be moot, anyway, as if Vicarious is indeed developing the game, then, for one reason or another, it'll presumably be owned by Acti. An Acti-owned studio working on a game that's to be owned by a third party doesn't strike me as a distinct possibility (extraordinary exceptions like Destiny aside). With any luck, we'll know very soon.
that would make sense, but they sent their pre-TGA tease (the furry dices) to a website called windows central that only covers xbox news when it comes to video games.
I really don't think this game is going to be Sony exclusive in any way. PR've already sent the teaser dice to Windows Central, among other MS-focused outlets, which is a bizarre choice for a Sony exclusive.
Very true. Whatever ownership the original CTR is held under by current understanding, whatever Activision is producing for reveal tomorrow is not "the original CTR". Deals, legal loopholes, etc, could all be at play.
Very true. Whatever ownership the original CTR is held under by current understanding, whatever Activision is producing for reveal tomorrow is not "the original CTR". Deals, legal loopholes, etc, could all be at play.
Its terrible. Literally trash. From what I remember the platforming sections were just okay, but the races were boring af. Tracks are badly designed, they are completly uninspired. Power sliding is gone. Instead we got that bad fusion system where two cars combine into one.
Yes https://www.windowscentral.com/activision-possibly-teases-crash-team-racing-remaster
Windowcentral received the dices as well, i suppose this is a PS4/Xbox One title launching the same day.
Windowcentral received the dices as well, i suppose this is a PS4/Xbox One title launching the same day.
Oh god, please let it be Sony exclusive for one year. I'm not going be be able to tolerate the crying and whining if it's multiplatform from day one.
Yeah, the dice thing is a compelling counter-point to the notion of exclusivity, temporary or otherwise. PS4 and X1 at launch with unconfirmed-but-totally-going-to-happen Switch and PC versions coming later would be my guess, like Spyro.
Lol I dont think the whining could possibly be worse than having to wait a year for a PC release.
EDIT: Can't read lol disregard
Note that they were asking about Crash TAG team racing, which really wasn't any good. Unless you actually feel it's better than those two, in which case you do you.
It's definitely Papu's Pyramid because that track has so many rapid, high-skill shortcuts. Making a perfect lap felt so rewarding. I was so good at it the last time my group of friends played (around two years back, probably), I could hit the huge gap near the end off the speed of a max wumpa (or maybe less) drift boost.
it'll be super lame if it was shown with a cgi trailer, i want to see gameplay and see how they've upgraded the courses.
The announcement itself would be hype, but yeah cgi only trailer would be a bit of an anti climax.
This. I was so disappointed with CNK's roster when it came out.
This one better fill out the roster with the missing N. Sane Trilogy characters (Tawna, Komodo Moe, Baby T., etc) before they even think of adding brand new characters (save for Oxide, of course).
I'm still holding out hope for a PC port of the Spyro trilogy. You think it's still likely going to happen?
I'd be thrilled to see a CGI trailer! After so many years waiting for CTR to return, I'd be stoked if all we got was a one-line confirmation from Activision.
pc and switch versions of the spyro trilogy are pretty much guaranteed to come, we just don't know when. they even listed those platforms on the game's website before it was removed, and it was leaked by nintendo UK a while before that.
it just seems activision isn't good at multi-platform development and contracts a studio to do the switch/pc ports once the game is done (or maybe there's another reason). i hope CTR is day 1 on all platforms but i won't be surprised if it's ps4/xbo at launch and the pc/switch versions come later.
lol, the people who would whine about a game being multi-platforms (as if that changes their experience in any way) don't deserve to be catered to.
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Thus far both Crash and Spyro got ingame footage at their reveals (not counting the super early Sony E3 logo drop) but assuming this is indeed releasing in summer next year I think it's safe to expect proper footage from the game like we got with Crash Trilogy at PSX.
Why would anyone whine about multiplatform? What you'll get otherwise is a year of port-begging.
Not if people actually discuss the game without starting a MK vs CTR war. I don't care about what games are the better, what I care about is CTR threads not being derailed all the time. It would help if the first page is not covered with bait posts like "Undeniably the best kart racer of all time" when there is absolutely no need for it, it's an invitation to war. The agenda is so obvious, and made even more obvious by the fact that those comments are alone the reason why every single CTR thread turns out this way. Without those snarky comments, there would be no derailing.
What mazi said, basically.
There was a not-uncommon notion that the original Crash trilogy belonged on PlayStation platforms due to their historical exclusivity. A former Naughty Dog veteran wasn't above that childish nonsense, either.
yep, i don't even know why it happens, it's not like it has to be the best game ever to be a good game. baiting console wars with statements like that is what shits up CTR threads, not people replying to questionable statements about how a kart racer from 1999 is much better than an entire series of games that have been evolving for 25 years. obviously taste is subjective and someone may actually think that, but when so many posts state that in such hyperbolic ways, it seems more like insecurity than a genuine opinion.
ugh, my eyes rolled out of my head reading that
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There was something authentic about the bosses which may have salvaged it, but of course they were all inexplicably locked down. I'd still like to play as Nash and listen to Billy West talk shit someday.
pc and switch versions of the spyro trilogy are pretty much guaranteed to come, we just don't know when. they even listed those platforms on the game's website before it was removed, and it was leaked by nintendo UK a while before that.
it just seems activision isn't good at multi-platform development and contracts a studio to do the switch/pc ports once the game is done (or maybe there's another reason). i hope CTR is day 1 on all platforms but i won't be surprised if it's ps4/xbo at launch and the pc/switch versions come later.
Thanks, that's great news to read! Hopefully the announcement will come soon!
But who knows, with N. Sane on PS4, then Reignited on PS4 and X-box - maybe Acti are slowly coming around to launching on all all at once? :p
Haha I remember that post. It should be a nice reminder for all the people who think people working in this industry cant have any agenda.
CTR is fuckin' awesome...but it's also a 19 year old PS1 game, so I'm really hoping that they drop in a few brand new tracks (I'd love to see a tracks specifically based off Crash 2's Turtle Woods and Crash 3's Bone Yard), work in an extra boss race or two, and also add in Tawna Bandicoot, N. Brio, Koala Kong, Baby T( . rex), and a Lab Assistant as new playable characters.
I also hope that they change up the boss characters' static, simplistic intro/outro cutscenes and make them as beautiful and lively as the N. Sane Trilogy's cutscenes.
I also hope that they change up the boss characters' static, simplistic intro/outro cutscenes and make them as beautiful and lively as the N. Sane Trilogy's cutscenes.
Getting the physics and gameplay 1:1 with the original is vital.
I know N.Sane didn't, but aside from Crash 1, the other games felt fine aside from the ice physics being silly on Crash 2. This one needs to be perfect though.
I know N.Sane didn't, but aside from Crash 1, the other games felt fine aside from the ice physics being silly on Crash 2. This one needs to be perfect though.
people will easily pay 40 for this, with no added content.
it may seem expensive compared to crash and spyro trilogy where you get 3 games for $40, but i don't think it would stop many people from buying it.
Oh My GOD
THE KING IS BACK. Please be real I don't need anything else. AND DON'T CHANGE THE GAMEPLAY, the turbo mechanic was so great, so versatile. As for me CTR is much much better than Mario Kart, even MK8D. The turbo in that game is horrible, while in Crash you can charge and cancel at anytime while braking and turning fast as hell.
I can't wait.
THE KING IS BACK. Please be real I don't need anything else. AND DON'T CHANGE THE GAMEPLAY, the turbo mechanic was so great, so versatile. As for me CTR is much much better than Mario Kart, even MK8D. The turbo in that game is horrible, while in Crash you can charge and cancel at anytime while braking and turning fast as hell.
I can't wait.
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