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A cynic bordering on nihilist who seems to use his own unhappiness to belittle or express hostility towards any effort to address iniquity.
In what way are any of these guys leftistsBeing mostly around that type, the ballpark is quite bigger than you think.
In what way are they alt-right?
I don't think I ever said they are alt-right, just that they push talking points that are found in alt-right crowds/appease those types of people. I've also never seen anything that would suggest they're leftists or even leaning in that direction.
I think generally they lead in that direction. We might be at an impasse, but despite some objective material, I've never sensed they are that hateful.I don't think I ever said they are alt-right, just that they push talking points that are found in alt-right crowds/appease those types of people. I've also never seen anything that would suggest they're leftists or even leaning in that direction.
I don't think I ever said they are alt-right, just that they push talking points that are found in alt-right crowds/appease those types of people. I've also never seen anything that would suggest they're leftists or even leaning in that direction.
The latter point of your post doesn't make sense.I see we're at the point where we project are political beliefs onto RLM. None of these dudes are leftist. They dislike all this Disney shit because they're cynical assholes not because they're staunch anti-capitalist
Not that this has anything to do with anything, but wasn't it hinted at numerous times throughout their content that Jay is actually gay?
The reason I ask is, if that is the case, I wonder how he feels about being perceived in this light?
Not that this has anything to do with anything, but wasn't it hinted at numerous times throughout their content that Jay is actually gay?
The reason I ask is, if that is the case, I wonder how he feels about being perceived in this light?
Leaning into.. leftism? How? Again, I never said they are necessarily hateful or that they're directly alt-right, just that they pander to those crowds. That much has been plainly obvious for some time, now, hence this thread. Complaining about corporations being creatively bankrupt/pushing cash grabs does not mean they're leaning into leftism.I think generally they lead in that direction. We might be at an impasse, but despite some objective material, I've never sensed they are that hateful.
Being cynical about the way films are made (ie studios aiming for pure cash grabs) is not leftism..I think both is are a stretch, but I have seen them spend more time criticising the ridiculous nature of the studio system under capitalism than any other politcial issue that might place them as right wingers. Their takedown of vapid consumer culture surrounding nerd shit are largely excellent, as seen in their Nerd Crew videos.
It is very surface level and they clearly have 0 interest in exploring the issues deeper, but it's there if you squint hard enough.
Being cynical about the way films are made (ie studios aiming for pure cash grabs) is not leftism..
I don't think they really pander to anyone in particular. They move to the beat of their own drum. Double Toasted is in the same category, but I generally feel the same about them.Leaning into.. leftism? How? Again, I never said they are necessarily hateful or that they're directly alt-right, just that they pander to those crowds. That much has been plainly obvious for some time, now, hence this thread. Complaining about corporations being creatively bankrupt/pushing cash grabs does not mean they're leaning into leftism.
Being cynical about the way films are made (ie studios aiming for pure cash grabs) is not leftism..
And, again, I never said they're directly alt-right, but they've replicated some of those talking points and views.
I never said.. that literally makes them leftists. I said I haven't seen anything that makes them "leaning in that direction", and being cynical about the motivations of corporations making movies is not a form of leftism.Good thing I am not arguing they are literal leftists, right?
You said : " I've also never seen anything that would suggest they're leftists or even leaning in that direction. ", don't start changing goalposts under the pretense cynicism about consumer culture doesn't count.
We're gunna have to agree to disagree then.I don't think they really pander to anyone in particular. They move to the beat of their own drum. Double Toasted is in the same category, but I generally feel the same about them.
I'm fine with that, Surfinn. Large part of the problem is I feel people are at odds here, and I've always liked your posts. I'm not trying to convince people they are a utopia acceptance, but I absorb most of their content without vitrol.
Jay is always the one to push back against Mike/Rich's shit. But it doesn't happen enough to make it fun to watch.
Thanks, everybody is free to make that decision on their own (whether to watch their content or not), but I think it's important to at least highlight their suspect behavior and rhetoric, as many in this thread were previously unaware of the content in the OP (which surely doesn't capture it all).I'm fine with that, Surfinn. Large part of the problem is I feel people are at odds here, and I've always liked your posts. I'm not trying to convince people they are a utopia acceptance, but I absorb most of their content without vitrol.
Jay has also been in on some bigoted commentary, including misogyny (some of it is listed in the OP).Jay is always the one to push back against Mike/Rich's shit. But it doesn't happen enough to make it fun to watch.
Speaking as the OP of the RLM |OT| both here and the old place, I'm glad you made this thread. When someone fucks up, calling them out on it is the right thing to do. When they continually fuck up, all the better to point it out.This thread was not a response to RLM posting another Star Wars video. The timing is merely coincidence. This thread was something that was gestating for well over a month between myself and other members on Era. I volunteered to be the one to put it up and take the bullets that would be fired.
So no, this isn't some conspiracy and knee jerk response to yet another video RLM made. This was something that was thought out and researched ahead of time.
Simple question for those saying they still like them:
Do you have any issues with Rich Evans going on a Twitch livestream and angrily and seriously ranting about women marching for abortion rights in DC and how he feels they should let Donald Trump do his job?
So they are also cowards with no standards, kinda like Grace Randolph who was shit before and leaned into the 4chan style bullshit because it got her hits?They are aware that a large percentage of their followers are 4chan style alt-right assholes and they are trying their best not to alienate that revenue stream.
That doesn't really respond to any of the heinous things they've said in the OP though?I watch every video these guys put out on YouTube. That excludes streams.
I have no idea where any of the negativity comes from. Maybe there's a problem with whoever appears on the streams that I don't watch? Otherwise, their content seems entirely sarcastic and satirical.
The Nerd Crew is a bit...obvious, or on the nose. But it's all a joke. They take in the free content of the internet and spew it out with their own spinned format. It is what it is. I find it entertaining.
Did you purposely ignore all the video evidence of them saying racist and sexist things in the OP? I mean there is even time stamps.I have no idea where any of the negativity comes from. Maybe there's a problem with whoever appears on the streams that I don't watch? Otherwise, their content seems entirely sarcastic and satirical.
So, problematic comments made by the show's hosts is being compared here with problematic comments made elsewhere, by a guest star of a smaller show. Clearly you can see how they are not very similar things, right?I also look at it like this way - Bill Burr publicly defended a racist under the guise of protecting "free speech" and criticizing SJW "rats" and their "cancel culture". I don't see anyone calling for a boycott of Star Wars threads on this forum after he guest starred on an episode of Mandalorian. Maybe someone should do that, but to what end?
Assigning scale to offense is just as problematic isn't it, particularly when I find Bill Burr's defense of Shane Gillis extremely troubling given his position of power and the level of influence that he has? Particularly when it's all born out of the fact that maybe, just maybe, someone should have vetted Gillis before giving him a national platform in the first place before reacting to people digging up his podcast history?So, problematic comments made by the show's hosts is being compared here with problematic comments made elsewhere, by a guest star of a smaller show. Clearly you can see how they are not very similar things, right?
If their content is near-indistinguishable from the pop culture sputum of your standard bigoted YT content creators then it's not really in the court of satire anymore but rather striding right into active reinforcement of gross ideals. They consistently seem to attract scumbags into their audience while repelling marginalized people. At some point if they're truly a "satirist" channel, it's on them to put that across and take a stand rather than expecting "we're satire!!" to be an ironclad defense of the rhetoric they put out which the OP and others have catalogued.I watch every video these guys put out on YouTube. That excludes streams.
I have no idea where any of the negativity comes from. Maybe there's a problem with whoever appears on the streams that I don't watch? Otherwise, their content seems entirely sarcastic and satirical.
The Nerd Crew is a bit...obvious, or on the nose. But it's all a joke. They take in the free content of the internet and spew it out with their own spinned format. It is what it is. I find it entertaining.
If their content is near-indistinguishable from the pop culture sputum of your standard bigoted YT content creators then it's not really in the court of satire anymore but rather striding right into active reinforcement of gross ideals. They consistently seem to attract scumbags into their audience while repelling marginalized people. At some point if they're truly a "satirist" channel, it's on them to put that across and take a stand rather than expecting "we're satire!!" to be an ironclad defense of the rhetoric they put out which the OP and others have catalogued.
What are you implying here?I knew that Era would have such a topic, with over 1000 posts. I just knew.
I knew that Era would have such a topic, with over 1000 posts. I just knew. Here is my hot RLM take.
I like RLM despite seeing all sorts of problems with their content. Some are basic Hollywood facts, like how a film profit is calculated. They constantly explain it wrong. Is say less Jay and have no deep-rooted problems with Mike to comment on that one.
Fuck you, it's January! is in full swing this year when I look into this year´s release schedule. That observation will by my personal RLM legacy. Their best video btw:
PS: The Nerd Crew is unwatchable to me. Valid point, trash execution. I only survived one full ep.
They were caping for RLM in the John Boyega thread for some reason, despite no one talking about RLM.
Lol. Why is it every poster that has an axe to grind about Era always has a persecution complex? Like every time without fail.I was bombarded with @ how can you talk about RLM in SW threads responses this weekend. That´s how I knew that something went down on Era jack_package_200.
But no. I must have sinister motives. I must.
Is this the official Era RLM topic? Today´s Best of the Worst: Wicked World is amazing if I am in the right place.
I talked about them in that topic. You can go into my timeline from yesterday and look. Did I start it? I may have. Their review also showed up in the TROS topic a few times. Having a quick google as it all read pretty weirdly, reading the first and last page here and reading the Discussion Guidelines explained a lot.They were caping for RLM in the John Boyega thread for some reason, despite no one talking about RLM.
Why are you acting like a victim lmaoI was bombarded with @ how can you talk about RLM in SW threads responses this weekend. That´s how I knew that something went down on Era jack_package_200.
But no. I must have sinister motives. I must.
Is this the official Era RLM topic? Today´s Best of the Worst: Wicked World is amazing if I am in the right place.
FTFYit's not the beard on your neck that matters, it's the beard on your heart's neck
I was bombarded with @ how can you talk about RLM in SW threads responses this weekend. That´s how I knew that something went down on Era jack_package_200.
But no. I must have sinister motives. I must.
Is this the official Era RLM topic? Today´s Best of the Worst: Wicked World is amazing if I am in the right place.