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A Statement on Engaging Members & Past Conduct
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I have interpreted that completely differently than you apparently. To me it says petty grievances with other uses at the door. That person who said something bad about the game you love? Squashed. Person called you a bigot when you did nothing wrong? That's in the past. Person supported a candidate you disagreed with? It's over. It doesn't say people guilty of harassment, doxxing, or certain serious offenses be entitled member status. If a certain owner from another forum were to register should he be allowed to post? In my personal opinion absolutely not.
Then educate yourself on who the discord screen shot is about before stopping them at the gates. Because its definitely not people harassing or doxxing anyone.
ya'll gon address this or nah
Pretty sure Besada deleted that twitter account three plus hours ago. I doubt he remade it to post that. Likely an out-of-site troll.
Besada is calling the bore a hate site, which is somewhat hilarious. Sure there is an obsession about the old place, but it's nothing other than laughing at public posts really. Not stalking like voat and such.
ya'll gon address this or nah
Address what?
That this person needs to get off the computer for a while?
It isn't my place to spread the business of others, but I know that the most you've been privy to is some out of context screenshots. I have a good idea about where you saw them as well.
I'm not here to shit up this thread, but it may be best to not speak on things you don't know the history of. That's just my opinion though.
Yeah, you're right. I went to see if the twitter was up after posting. Seems he only deactivated it previously?
How am I supposed to know the who of a screenshot I can't see?
Honestly beyond a single thread that has some meta forum drama/commentary The Bore is just a regular ass message board with a small community. We're super far removed from the original splinter board origins, so dude is over reacting.
As far as I can tell there is no ResetEra member by the name of besada.
I don't think this community, and in particular the admins and mods, are obliged to address what random people say off-site - even if negative about ResetEra like this person seem to be doing.
Who is going to police that? Who is going to do the work in verifying that off-site people are who they say they are? That would veer close to doxxing.
Better to focus on making this the best gaming forum it can be.
I don't think this community, and in particular the admins and mods, are obliged to address what random people say off-site - even if negative about ResetEra like this person seem to be doing.
Who is going to police that? Who is going to do the work in verifying that off-site people are who they say they are? That would veer close to doxxing.
Better to focus on making this the best gaming forum it can be.
I think we have a miscommunication thing going here and we really need to clarify for all of our sakes. It's not cool that Besada is throwing Reset under the bus because the staff decided to give us a chance.
Just wanted to say thanks for this site and thanks for the transparent and even-keeled approach. I think this model will work out best for the long term health of this site. It's been a pretty pleasant experience thus far.
Yeah. Keep resetera in resetera rather than trying to police ongoing outside of it.
JonTron isn't welcome because of things he did off the site. That's already established as a precedent.
This idea that bad behavior is only bad if it happens here is naive at best and actively duplicitous at worst. A doxxing that doesn't happen here is still not cool, for example.
I'm no jontron fan, and please know none of my posts have been about jontron, but I think allowing people to come here if they wish and speak for themselves, defend themselves against hearsay if needed, and state their position as it is now is important for keeping the transparency that the mods have instilled so far.
You should be. People are just unhappy that people from a site(Bore) aren't being prevented from joining.
I mean, there are like 5. They're the same sites that were dedicated to doxxing the old place.
And probably? Unless you make some kind of name for yourself by actively not being a bag of shit.
There have been several sites dedicated to doxxing members of NeoGAF for 2+ years. Considering the origin of the site it's assumed they are also targeting people here.
As for are you safe? That seems to depend entirely on whether you've posted anything to offend the perpetrators, and whether you've lay the framework for them to work with.
You're safe because....
We've never doxxed anyone.
Well, that's the problem, isn't it? The entire website is a reset, a do-over, a fresh start. Clean slates for all! To leave the baggage in the past and march proudly into the future. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, etc.
But while the spirit of that idea is a strong one, it ignores the basic reality that people are judged on their past actions. Hell, thats the reason the LAST website we were all on imploded. To cast a blind eye, to pretend that everyone who joins is a fresh newborn who no ill intentions, is naive and foolish at best, and openly antagonistic to the membership at worst.
Given that we don't know who these members are, or what their offences were, it's hard to really take a position. Was it confirmed doxxers? For all I know it's just people who had unpopular opinions.
Also, drama sucks
Also, drama sucks
Some people here will interpret that we indeed doxxed people. We haven't. They need to have receipts to make that claim, and you know very well they'll use your post as evidence of such claims.
Adding context or trying to stir up shit with baseless accusations? hmmm
I mean, being a reset from the last place is one thing.
Save scumming a game file erases everything you did in that particular file.
It doesn't erase the three other files you've still got.
Just my opinion on the matter.
That's not what transparency means. Obviously it will be up to the mods to draw conclusions on a case by case basis -- that is a very big part of being a mod on a forum if it intends to be inclusive and welcoming, particularly to vulnerable groups within a sometimes incredibly toxic gaming community -- but if they make the decision not to allow someone in, to be transparent would be to explain their reasoning, not to overrule their own judgment.
Bore members have used their platform to shit on users here and at the old site.
Will kiwifarm members be allowed too? Since they doxxed me and others off-site it should be fine right?
Not allowing people to join because of hearsay and false claims isn't transparent. Letting them join and prove those claims are false is.
Literally nothing happened, bar besada's twitter meltdown.
I've seen people quote posts of mine from the old place, post them there and make insulting transphobic comments about me. Just for the record.
I"m not accusing anyone of anything. I responded to a post where someone said "this person needs to get off the computer for a while". You can read the tweet in isolation and think that. He's been on the receiving end of a lot of ugliness. Which is context relevant to what he was saying. You can certainly still think that, which is fine but I thought it added to an understanding of his perspective.
I don't stir shit up nor offer baseless accusations (or any accusations, for that matter). I have a firm record of such. The suggestion otherwise is really strange to me.
The Bore. That should be obvious. You're in the know, bb.
That solves that.
'S a pretty shitty site with some pretty shitty behavior, breh.
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