Fair enough.You have to ask them, cause I don't seriously use that. It gives folks an opt out clause.
Fair enough.You have to ask them, cause I don't seriously use that. It gives folks an opt out clause.
I didn't miss it, it's just a bad point. Minorities aren't telling people "call yourself an ally", they are saying "be an ally", do something. You don't take it on and off like a hat, you either are or aren't and if you are you don't have to announce it.
White people cannot be experts on black cultural EXPERIENCES. Fuck history, you can open a book and read history. She cannot speak to cultural experiences with authority over a black person with similar credentials.
Guess we'll just have to see if the museum leadership issues statements of support for her and stand beside her. Only time will tellYou keep hanging your hat on this, yet you don't even know how the decision was made.
I'm sorry I am too stupid to understand that a white person was the best possible person to shape a museum exhibit to tell myself about my own culture.
Nah, you definitely missed my point.I didn't miss it, it's just a bad point. Minorities aren't telling people "call yourself an ally", they are saying "be an ally", do something. You don't take it on and off like a hat, you either are or aren't and if you are you don't have to announce it.
How much in common do public libraries have with the smithsonian tho? I'm not getting why libraries keep being brought uo
The library and museum professions are very intertwined. Libraries often house archives and exhibits like this, and librarians often work in museums and museum curation, and vice-versa.How much in common do public libraries have with the smithsonian tho? I'm not getting why libraries keep being brought up
https://nmaahc.si.edu/about/leadership
You should write an email to Dr. Lonnie G. Bunch III, the man who probably had final say on all the hiring there and see his response. He's the one shaping the museum.
She should keep the job she got and make it as awesome as it can be.
people on twitter calling Chuck D an uncle tom for backing her which is... whew
You're trying to have it both ways here.
First you're bringing up the name of the museum as part of your larger argument that apparently no white staff should be allowed to work there.
Then you're saying that the entire thing is a white institution. An institution that from this page previously posted by Avitus is run by a predominantly black board who came to the decision that of the apparent candidates for the position Burnside was the best fit for the exhibit. So which is it? Either it's a white institution and the entire thing is a farce to begin with or it's a legitimate place devoted to history and culture of African Americans.
I'm just not exactly sure what you're expecting here. This is apparently Burnside's life's work. As far as we know she wasn't propped up at the expense of equally qualified candidates and there wasn't a racial motivation for her appointment, which in and of itself would have been against the law. More qualified people than any of us signed off on her being there. Your main issue seems to be she can't speak towards the black experience herself, which I don't think is disqualifying because her job isn't to talk about her own experiences, it's to exhibit the experience of others. To relate to the best of her ability the stories of the pioneers of hip-hop, which in many ways is related through those individuals' own words within the museum, either written or recorded.
Your logic of what precludes people from being able to work in this museum falls desperately short of being something that could equally be applied to other museums devoted to specific events or people.
Well why so often do white people get scolded by minorities with "if you wanna be an ally...."?
Alright, tell me what I missed.I didn't miss it, it's just a bad point. Minorities aren't telling people "call yourself an ally", they are saying "be an ally", do something. You don't take it on and off like a hat, you either are or aren't and if you are you don't have to announce it.
Ok I laughed
But really, do you actually have to be black to understand hip-hop? Seems like that would have some pretty broad implications.
Wow... I'm very surprised and disappointed with the amount of "not a problem" posts ITT.
Plenty of others have explained why it's a problem so no need for me to resay all of that. But damn...
God damn right. Followed up with some Aquemini.As long as she puts ATLiens as the s first thing she's alright with me.
I think you misunderstood my post.
who said this
Your entire argument is bunk because I never said white people couldnt work there. Nor is that my actual position. You wasted all those words for nothing
We don't bat an eye if the local curator for the Holocaust museum isn't a native Jew, or if a person looking to study Christian theology is an atheist. Being black doesn't give you an inherent native born Ta-Nehisi-esque handle on the various cultural and social trends that have lead to this very moment. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if the person in question was literally born in Nigeria and had 0 connection to the traditional black cultural EXPERIENCE as it exists in America because they'd have fulfilled our notions of what a person leading this type of exhibit "should" look like instead.
Being black doesn't mean that they fit all the criteria that you seem to think disqualify this person from leading this exhibit, it doesn't mean you've faced adversity, have lived the struggle, or can emotionally engage with this subject as a result of personal experiences* and these things don't make you any more qualified (this is a buzzword in this thread, I'm sorry) to be running this exhibit in this instance.
Yet we wouldn't even be questioning these things if the person in question had grown up with a silver spoon in their mouth, in the heart of suburbia, listening to rock music all their days so long as they were a few shades darker.
Then what is your position? She's not allowed to have any sort of leadership position? She's not allowed to curate an exhibit that has apparently been her life's work solely because she's not black?
If that's the case, then my point still stands. Your logic is fakakta based on what museums are.
Imagine working to push hip hop culture at the smithsonian to be compared to Carolyn Bryant by someone on the Internet.Knowing this history about emmit till and other horrible things white women have done to the black community I am totally not ok with this
I mean, this is the reality of the situation. People who don't know shit about hip hop flipping out that a white woman might know more than them. I bet if you actually had a conversation with her you'd learn a fuck ton you didn't know before.
So we at the point that some black people approve of this so its must be ok!
Its the same argument every single time against minorities it never fails.
I know y'all think "well take up with this negro I approve of" is the right approach but I assure you it's not. Just makes you look even more stupid
well thanks for this brain teaser of a reply to this threadNobody, I just wanted to be sure that you don't think someone who got paid to incarcerate black people was a vanguard of social justice either.
You think you're making a point but you're not. Yes, the Smithsonian is a white institution. That doesn't mean they shouldn't do right by black people in their efforts in staffing a museum they created to preserve african american history and art.So which is it? Either it's a white institution and the entire thing is a farce to begin with or it's a legitimate place devoted to history and culture of African Americans.
I don't approve of this pls don't lump us all together
Knowing this history about emmit till and other horrible things white women have done to the black community I am totally not ok with this
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on social justice, Ms. May.Nobody, I just wanted to be sure that you don't think someone who got paid to incarcerate black people was a vanguard of social justice either.
Imagine working to push hip hop culture at the smithsonian to be compared to Carolyn Bryant by someone on the Internet.
Goddamit ERA.
Nobody, I just wanted to be sure that you don't think someone who got paid to incarcerate black people was a vanguard of social justice either.
Damn, you really comparing this chick to Carolyn Bryant fr tho?
You think you're making a point but you're not. Yes, the Smithsonian is a white institution. That doesn't mean they shouldn't do right by black people in their efforts in staffing a museum they created to preserve african american history and art.