This is a good post.
Hopefully the next woman protag will have an actually good game.
And...not stuff like that, too.
"I didn't give Lightning a love interest because I couldn't bear to see her end up with anyone else!" is…not confidence-inspiring.
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A wish that won't come true: FFXVI female protagonist
- Thread starter Alanood
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This is a good post.
"I didn't give Lightning a love interest because I couldn't bear to see her end up with anyone else!" is…not confidence-inspiring.
I want a female and I want it to be a "girly" girl. Not a girl in man's like role (like Lightning). And an Edgelord at that. Serah was a bit better in that regard (even though I detested FF13-2 and LR as games, and what they stood for, and where they took the story in 13 which began and ended just... fine)
"It means they are my two least favorite final fantasy games. If the writing turns into what those games did I dont want it at all.
There are lots of great games with female leads. Final Fantasy has not been among them."
You say they're your two least favorite FFs, that the games and writing are not to your liking, but nothing specifically about the actual female leads which made me just think you don't want a remotely feminine FF.
Thx for implying that I have comprehension problems tho
I'm up to it if Motomu Toriyama stays the fuck away from any type of writing utensil. Also, get somebody other than Nomura to design her.
I don't see why it shouldn't come true. FF always had prominent female characters, and the series generally doesn't have "one" protagonist. Ashe was the central character in XII while Vaan was just an observer, Dagger was just as or more important than Zidane, same for Tidus and Yuna, Squall and Rinoa were the central characters of VIII, Terra was on the cover of VI but VI really was an ensemble game, and Fang and Vanille were more important for XIII's plot than Lightning.
I still hope that XVI will be Agni's Philosophy, now there's a wish that won't come true. ;-)
I still hope that XVI will be Agni's Philosophy, now there's a wish that won't come true. ;-)
Why it's impossible ?
I want a protagonist doesn't matter male or female but someone who is likable and really really well written.. because we didn't get that in a main offline FF game since FFIX.
Zidane was an excellent leader to his group and was very lovable.
I want a protagonist doesn't matter male or female but someone who is likable and really really well written.. because we didn't get that in a main offline FF game since FFIX.
Zidane was an excellent leader to his group and was very lovable.
It definitely helps!
I agree, I find those kinds of characters much easier to relate to and more interesting.
Make a game about a squad of four women in a FF4 like setting aboutt them traversing an interesting world to reach a final point(something like the main goal of Death Stranding where you have to reach the beach and the game is about the journey). Hire a woman to write and direct it, look at Claymore for inspiration.
This would be cool.
This would be cool.
Are these dudes still in charge of who gets to be a main character or not?
I had forgotten about this absolute nightmare.
Nah, I know you hate her but a lot of us, including myself, likes Lightning. She's pretty cool and fierce.
I doubt it.Are these dudes still in charge of who gets to be a main character or not?
Yeah, one of Lightning's many faults comes from the director(?) or whatever considering Lightning to be his "waifu" sickening
This was just a bad topic to even bring up, because of course it would devolve into this. Why do you people do this to yourselves?
Lightning started as a way of just reusing Cloud with a female skin. Her motivation through the game is her fridged sister. Fang was originally a man and doesn't seem to have had substantial rewriting after the fact. This is not to say that female characters cannot have masculine traits or that they all need to be covered in pink and flowers. But it is a pattern: the "strong" women are the ones who are masculine and the feminine ones (Serah and Vanille) are the ones who need to be protected and rescued. Let's also not ignore or minimize the sexualized character designs of these women (Lightning's skirt barely clears the bottom of her cheeks) or the ensuing nonsense in Lightning Returns that I described.
But please, tell me, a woman, more about how I'm wrong about misogyny.
Wasn't there a tech demo with a girl as protagonist a while ago? It was shown at the beginning of the generation. I don't see why Square Enix wouldn't make it happen.
Why it wouldn't? I see a trio of characters in my magic ball, 2 females and 1 male, the main being a white mage (again).
I've loved most/all the female characters in FFXIV, luckily. So if the rumors of Yoshi-P possibly helping or overseeing it or if the Heavensward team is involved at all I'll be happy.
I really dont see why it wouldnt be likely, 13 is considered probably the worst FF but people love lightening
Not to mention 2B is like the biggest square enix character this gen by far
Not to mention 2B is like the biggest square enix character this gen by far
Personally I liked Lighting, she was abrasive, but her "party" was so shitty that her almost bitterness was very easy to empathise with.
I can't imagine I'd be easy to get along with if I had to save the world teamed up with Mr "heroes don't need plans" Snow
Which part of cloud and zidane looks 'european'.
Cloud is 'anime' while zidane is a monkey.
Cloud is a white dude with blonde hair and blue eyes who comes from a village that looks like it was inspired by some random hamlet in the Swiss countryside. Aside from his stupid hairstyle, which no actual human being would ever have regardless of nationality, he definitely seems European to me.
Lightning Strikes Again x4: Final Fantasy XVI ~Forever With Love~ #CTRL+Z# @ Destiny - Memory = Hate - True Emotions : Grand Pride: International Edition ~ 24/7 hours
I think it's slightly better than how a lot of men write them. But I think in general, writers are struggling with female characters.
They tend to overthink them or just rely on lazy and outdated tropes. Like on one hand, you have people who make the damsel in distress characters and cheap cliche's that writers have gravitated to for a while out of laziness and bigotry, and this is usually a male writer thing. On the overthinking side, we have people who try so hard to avoid the emotional female cliche that they write female characters without personality and actual development. Lightning was bordering that.
The solution is to write a character first, and decide their gender later. IMO, writing with the intention of writing a "male character" or "female character" is usually a bad idea unless their gender specifically ties into the story.
Not sure if you ever played XIV, but make the best girl you can make and play dozens of hours until your heart's content. Game is absolutely incredible. Various races leads to all kinds of creation. Can play as a Black Viera or a purple Lalafell.. with 8 races there's lots of possibilities. Then if you're not happy with your character you can always buy a potion and change your race and/or gender.
Are these dudes still in charge of who gets to be a main character or not?
A lot of people forget that the whole underpinning of Final Fantasy XV was fundamentally sexist.
It's so fucking stupid.
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Future game developers: Please try not to embarrass women, we're a lot more interesting than we're sometimes written.
I'd love for FFXVI to have a female protagonist. I just hope Toriyama and Nomura are not involved at all.
Put either Yasumi Matsuno or Yoko Taro in the directorial role and I'd be immediately sold.
Put either Yasumi Matsuno or Yoko Taro in the directorial role and I'd be immediately sold.
Sazh, Serah, Noel, Caius, Fang, hell I would say Snow and XIII-2 Hope.