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A Woman Intentionally Hit a motorcyclist with Her Car and Fled, He Followed Her to House, She Came Out to Confront Him with a Gun, So He Shot Her Dead
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Why would she drive to the police station after committing a hit-and-run?
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She might have been a nun carrying the next Jesus too!
Counterpoint: She would have been alive if she didn't intentionally run into a motorcycle, flee to her home, and pull a shotgun on her victim.
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A story of two psychopaths. Woman intentionally hits cyclist and flees home. Cyclist, instead of merely collecting her plate number and moving on with his day, decides to escalate the situation by following her home, killing her when she feels threatened and pulls out a gun.
Throw him in prison.
Throw him in prison.
Is there video footage of the incident? Because if not, I guess the winner of the latest American gun duel gets to dictate reality.
While I think following her and confronting her at her home was a lapse in judgement and created more of a mess. I don't think the act of following her while in active communication with authorities so that they actually do something was a completely bad move. Police don't do shit for hit-and-runs even with a license plate.
considering there is an eyewitness and the motorcyclist is not in custody - it's a pretty safe assumption she pulled the gun first.
Even in that case, every other option is bound to end up worse for you. Police will knock on your door eventually, and then you are even more screwed. In this case, she could have claimed that she couldn't stay there after hitting him because the guy was aggressive and dangerous to her. So she drove right to the police. Since they would find a gun on him, they'd probably believe her no matter if that was really true.
Tried to kill him...twice. (Or, at minimum, provided the threat of fatal bodily harm by going inside, getting a gun, and then confronting the guy with it.)
The story isn't 100% clear, but it reads as if the witness was there at the house. If that's the case, I'm going to make the reasonable assumption that the motorcyclist wasn't aggressively escalate. He may have very well just been sitting on his bike waiting for the police when she came out and confronted him with a gun.
It feels like when both parties are armed it's just about who shoots who first and then it's self defense.
That's not how this works.
My mom as followed a car and my best friend has followed a car following a hit and run while on the phone with cops. Neither of them own guns. I don't own a gun, I'd do the same as a witness with a victim.
Following someone fleeing the scene of a crime is damn near bog standard when things happen and someone can be followed safely. The fact that he was on the call with 911 shows this to be the case. If it weren't, he wouldn't have traveled with a witness and wouldn't have been on the phone.
Guns no doubt made this shit worse, but I highly doubt he followed her because he had a gun, he followed her because he had the police on the line and someone to back up his sideof the story.
Yup. I doubt this guy would have felt as comfortable following her if he wasn't prepared to use his gun too. Or if he did follow her and he didn't have a gun, she would have ended up shooting him. Either way, guns are fucking horrible and emboldens people to act stupid and reckless as shit.
Are there specifics on how this all went down because I feel like this situation is really hard to gauge without the proper context.
For both good and bad reasons. Iv never really liked that saying. The wild west had unregulated alcohol abuse, drug abuse, gambling ect. which was encouraged. Those things dont typically go well with firearms. In top of that most of those laws were to protect the law officials rather than the populous who more often than not were just as bad as the criminals and gangs they tried to disarm. They didnt want to get a bullet in the back while they power tripped.
I mean she had to go into her home to get the weapon. She wasn't shot inside. She went in, grabbed a shotgun, and came outside to confront the person she just tried to murder with her car.
he also didn't run up to her house flailing his gun around like people here are suggesting. based on the story he waited on the roadside by her house, she went in while he was waiting for the cops to show up, then she comes out with a shotgun trying to kill him.
guns are the obvious problem here but let's not make up random facts.
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He did wait for the cops
It's not like he broke into her house
The expectation for purely rational reaction to someone trying to mow you down is wild here
She committed the final escalation. She could have stayed in her damn house. She was in no danger at that point. And yet instead she goes out, points her gun at him and gets shot.
Just in case the man she hit and run in a road rage incident has a concealed carry permit apparently. Assume everyone in the US is packing heat.
I think this incident does show how stupid stand your ground or whatever the fuck it is called is. And lax guns laws. Anyone would realistically fear from their life no matter where they are if someone pulled a gun on you.
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those are all plausible causes of hitting another vehicle. I see it all the time. how do we know her intent? Was there some sort of back and forth? Is there video? That article is very one sided and doesn't provide much info over a very bizarre situation involving multiple people with guns.
look like era's overdosed on stupid pills today. Blaming somebody who got ran over, legally followed somebody while on the line with the police, then defended themselves from the person who just ran them over again, this time fatally.
Really wish the woman would have just tried not to kill this guy twice. And yes, no guns would have made this situation a lot better, but no guns in the US is fiction here.
Really wish the woman would have just tried not to kill this guy twice. And yes, no guns would have made this situation a lot better, but no guns in the US is fiction here.
Rewind a little. Don't do a hit and run if you assume everyone is packing heat.
Also: "Just get the plate number" doesn't work if the car is stolen - which there is no way of knowing before police are involved. Happened to my buddy who got hit and run by a stolen truck, witnesses got the plate numbers but they never found the driver.
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The article indicates a WITNESS was with the motorcyclist who was hit. That would imply how they know the incident was intentional
Texting and driving and swerving is still fucking hitting someone, and doesn't excuse it.
If someone tried to murder me with my car I'm not going to say " awh shucks" and then "move on with my day". If she didn't want hin following her home then she shouldn't have driven home, or better yet, shouldn't have fled the scene in the first place.
Man some people here are crazy, it's unfortunate but I don't feel bad for the woman who tried to kill someone. It's like when anti vaxxers die of covid... if you didn't do dumb shit you wouldn't die. Hard to feel bad for someone like that, especially someone who INTENTIALLY tried to kill someone.
I mean there was a witness completely independent of the motorcyclist who corroborated everything that happened. If the motorcyclist instigated further we'd have that detail.
Also not replying to post I quoted but don't think someone almost killing you is just something you walk away and continue your day from. People are acting like she rearended him and drove off without giving insurance.
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You are deeply committed to her being entirely innocent thing
If they were following at a safe distance, doubtful. To get a plate, you'd have to either get it immediately after the hit, or you'd have to be following and tailgating like you're doing a police chase. It's not hard to follow someone at a close enough distance to not lose them and still be far enough away to not be able to safely get a plate number.
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