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Models always came to mind, but I suppose it's all about how you look outside rather than what the inside of your body looks like
Actually how many people here saying vaping is bad have had a chest x Ray in the last few months? I know I have, heavy vapor And smoked for cigarettes for 15 heads and according to the scans my lungs are fine. So if I had scary shit on my lungs I would stop. But since I don't and social distancing. It's just another "smoking is bad when you are dealing with a respiratory illness"
Like yeah no shit you shouldn't smoke when you're sick.
Like yeah no shit you shouldn't smoke when you're sick.
Someone who lives in the UK I find it it ridiculous that you see politicians, sections of the media in the states calling for a ban on vaping but they are happy for people to buy cigarettes. It makes no complete sense health wise and looks more like they are keeping tobacco companies happy.
This article just seems to follow the same pattern.
It depends I guess? Most people aren't vaping weed every 20 minutes like some e-cig users.
so does living in a city https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190816-is-city-life-really-bad-for-you
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I don't know who to believe
Please keep vaping Hannity. Vape Away.
Not really surprising given breathing itself can worsen the effects of the Coronavirus due to being a respiratory infection.
Inhaling anything could be harmful, like the article itself even mentions conventional cigarettes being just as much of a risk but for some reason the headline is just about vaping.
Inhaling anything could be harmful, like the article itself even mentions conventional cigarettes being just as much of a risk but for some reason the headline is just about vaping.
Even that I am kind of curious on
Recreational smokers (marijuana, basically) are probably better off, although that starts becoming a debacle regarding where they are sourcing their shit from and what is in there and how likely they are to get crinkly lungs and blah blah blah
But anecdotally? A friend of mine has been a smoker for decades. She was down to two or three cigarettes per day (so probably double that...) and changed to vaping so she would reek less. A month or two in she did the math and realized she was vaping the equivalent of a pack a day.
As she describes it, smoking sucks. You are inhaling hot particulates full of some pretty bad chemicals and shit. Whereas vaping is "incredibly smooth" . So whereas, at her worst, it was her body saying "Stop smoking. This is literally killing us" she now no longer really has that.
Logically what she is saying sounds reasonable but as I have never smoked I can't really apply any firsthand knowledge. And she is the kind of idiot who got hooked from using nicotine patches as a teenager for appetite suppression and the like so...
Vaping doesn't bother me other than seeming new and dumb. It reminds me of college where it felt like every computer science major with anything resembling a social life would endlessly vape at parties.
But! Some of the heat settings these guys use with their custom and modified setups/kits are insane. I've bummed puffs off of vapes that burnt my throat and lungs more powerfully than any cigarette ever has.
I sort of stop understanding the appeal at that point. Other than flavored smoke I guess.
Anyone who smokes anything in this day and age knows they are doing damage to their throat, lungs, and heart. But not a whole lot of people don't connect the dots when it comes to the actual long term ramifications.
But! Some of the heat settings these guys use with their custom and modified setups/kits are insane. I've bummed puffs off of vapes that burnt my throat and lungs more powerfully than any cigarette ever has.
I sort of stop understanding the appeal at that point. Other than flavored smoke I guess.
Anyone who smokes anything in this day and age knows they are doing damage to their throat, lungs, and heart. But not a whole lot of people don't connect the dots when it comes to the actual long term ramifications.
Not only that. But I had to stop myself from using my vape pen when I was out for some supplies. I had on rubber gloves for safety. But almost put a pen in my mouth that I just touched with the gloves out of habit.
This scares the shit out of me, I smoked for years and currently vape. I vape a hell of a lot less than I ever smoked but still, I know it's not great. I'm pretty convinced if I get this virus I'm dead and I don't see any feasible way around getting it.
OP
OP
I would say that the burden of proof on the vape industry to prove that their product is safe(r).
I stopped vaping two weeks ago when it started to look like this was gonna get out of control. Probably should have just gone cold turkey but the patch is working for me so far
OP, you may want to amend your post to say that cigarettes seem to be linked to worse outcomes and vaping MIGHT BE LINKED PENDING FURTHER RESEARCH.
I swear no one fucking read a paragraph before going on about how they always knew how bad vaping is for you. Shameful shit.
I swear no one fucking read a paragraph before going on about how they always knew how bad vaping is for you. Shameful shit.
This crisis unfortunately will see many vapers return to cigarettes. Out of vape juice or need new coils you can't just go and get some but you can go and buy cigarettes.
You're still smoking....
I stopped vaping weed a couple weeks ago, only edibles now when I feel like it. But I've been a lot more anxious lately so I haven't been doing that very much at all either.
I can see where you are coming from but in my experience as a doctor a lot of smoking is cultural/educational/habit.
I knew and some still know that smoke and don't ever tried to stop because it is their "only "vice. They "need" it to relax. Plus a thousand other justifications.
it really comes down to how you see death from smoking i'd bet most people think they will die "quickly" with cancer instead of the fact that most will drown slowly as their lungs slowly can't let the oxygen pass in quantities enough to talk but just enough they can live.
I have never seen a 20-30 year old come to me and say something like " i know smoking is bad and i can't stop. Can you help me?"
I've been smoking for 20 years now and even if it should be the perfect time to stop, it's also the time where stop smoking is the hardest.
Have been in hospital last year because of my coughing from time to time, got my lungs scanned and checked and they were "perfectly fine". The coughing was due to allergic reactions to some medical drugs I took. I'd guess that smoking and vaping while the virus rages inside your lungs is one of the culprits.
But I still hope I develop the actual will to stop soon.
Have been in hospital last year because of my coughing from time to time, got my lungs scanned and checked and they were "perfectly fine". The coughing was due to allergic reactions to some medical drugs I took. I'd guess that smoking and vaping while the virus rages inside your lungs is one of the culprits.
But I still hope I develop the actual will to stop soon.
I look forward to the day journalists acknowledge the crucial distinction between vaping juice and vaping flower when writing scary articles about the "dangers of vaping".
I'm starting to weed myself off of my vape, but anyone who does it knows its not 100% safe. It's just a better alternative than smoking.
As always, it's an addiction and you can't really just tell people to stop as much as you can tell people to stop being fat. This article tells nothing new. It also doesn't help that we're in an extremely stressful time and trying to quit cold turkey is fucking hard, as much as a double-edged sword it is.
As always, it's an addiction and you can't really just tell people to stop as much as you can tell people to stop being fat. This article tells nothing new. It also doesn't help that we're in an extremely stressful time and trying to quit cold turkey is fucking hard, as much as a double-edged sword it is.
Feels like a case of "no duh". The healthier your lungs, the more likely you will be able to breathe when you get sick and on top of that, you won't be inhaling shit while your lungs are already battleground for your immune system, bacteria and a virus. It's not too late to try and kick the habit. Health benefits take effect within hours.
This is about as obvious of an outcome as could be expected.
I sense many people in this thread have never had an issue with addiction(s) because I see a ton of, "Don't vape." Which is true, yeah, but it's a little easier said than done.
I sense many people in this thread have never had an issue with addiction(s) because I see a ton of, "Don't vape." Which is true, yeah, but it's a little easier said than done.
Activity that damages your lungs surprisingly bad in the time of lung disease pandemic.
More news at 11.
More news at 11.
Brendan Karet 🚮 on Twitter
“Sean Hannity suggests vaping prevents people from getting coronavirus https://t.co/d9iorM11db”
I don't know who to believe
I'm going to believe the opposite of what Sean Hannity says.
Do we know if the otherwise healthy young people who have died or are hospitalized have a history of smoking?
Well you also have to have those little vacations away from stress, right?
But smoking anything is probably bad for you... Sadly enough.
I thought it was the bad oils used with some of those vapers? Could be wrong though. Never vaped.