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Accelerating in a Tesla is wholly underwhelming
- Thread starter Zen
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Unfortunately no company makes an electric car with a manual. At least not any of the major manufacturers.
It's going to take way more than 20 years for electric cars to be more common than gas ones. 5-10 years from now I'd still see gas outselling electric, and it will take longer than 10 years for those cars to age out.
I'd say 30 years yeah for electric more common than gas, and yeah probably 50 before gas cars are for all intents and purposes phased out other than collectors and enthusiasts.
The average age of cars on the road right now is 12 years old. They will still be selling a lot of gas cars 5+ years from now. You can't just tell people to stop driving their perfectly well functioning 10+ year old cars.
I'm planning to trade my mx-5 in for a leaf. I think I'm done with owning an ICE vehicle. Just doesn't make sense to me anymore, even as a car enthusiast.
See? This is fucking disgusting. And it's exactly what I'm calling out.
Once every high end car manufacturer is on board with completely electric engines, you'll probably have the annoying fake engine sounds be a prominent feature on the high end models. The like of Audi and BM will add this to the high end electric cars.
I could care less either way. I'd rather they focus on eliminating all wind and tyre roar.
I could care less either way. I'd rather they focus on eliminating all wind and tyre roar.
I never rode in a Tesla (yet) but I can relate to when I rode the Shinkansen when I visited Japan a couple of years ago...I was hyped to travel almost 200mph on the tracks but just simply found it to be a smooth quiet pleasant comfy chill ride. Kinda anti-climactic and uneventful experience but it was still dang fast lol.
I think it's way more cool and impressive the more quiet it is. It's simply better for everyone and futuristic as hell.
I at least will never taken an opportunity to share my sneering dismissal of people who want to perform this sort of thing in real life with with their cars on city roads. Motherfuckers barely even signal. I don't know how there aren't more wrecks on the road
Classic cars are often beautiful works of art and fun to look at, I didn't expect so many to be running and revving engines and smoking tires and all that nonsense.
That's what a classic car show is though, maybe you are best off looking at classic cars in the pages of Hot Rod magazine.
I used to drive a 68 Camaro in the 90s, with a mid sized engine (350cc I think), and the sound and exhaust smell was something else. No AC either. Just hearing a classic car brings back the memories, but damn that thing was an unwieldy slippery boat. Everytime I floored it I swear the gas meter dipped and stayed there. To this day I miss the concept of that car, but not the reality.
And as a result, I crave engine noise in my cars, but usually drive V6s. No sound would definitely be weird, but the rest of the benefits more than outweigh that.
And as a result, I crave engine noise in my cars, but usually drive V6s. No sound would definitely be weird, but the rest of the benefits more than outweigh that.
Electric cars should sound like Samus doing a hyper dash in Super Metroid whenever you floor it.
But you don't get it though, you're failing to understand like very basic principals of automotive engineering. Power curves are different between an EV and ICE, it's shown via acceleration nature.
Nobody cares how many cars and bikes you've driven or bought or tuned if you don't even understand how they work, stop trying to be all macho. This is why people associate car culture with toxic/insecure masculinity
I'm all for this, but people will protest it as a "tax on the poor" just like the soda one
Anyone in this thread who equates liking gas cars to "toxic masculinity" is an idiot (I saw it more than once). Grow the fuck up if that's how you feel about other people's legitimate hobbies.
OP: Good as far as I'm concerned. It's a little box you sit in to get from A to B. It's not an extension of anyone's penis. I'll be so glad when that entire era is a thing of the past. Bring on the self driving future, too.
I think we'll see a lot less road rage and accidents when we completely remove everyone's ability to put their anger on full display through the proxy of their vehicle. I roll my eyes anytime someone has a hissy in their car when something isn't going their way and have to make sure everyone around them knows that either through their engine or their tires. Shouldn't exist.
I think we'll see a lot less road rage and accidents when we completely remove everyone's ability to put their anger on full display through the proxy of their vehicle. I roll my eyes anytime someone has a hissy in their car when something isn't going their way and have to make sure everyone around them knows that either through their engine or their tires. Shouldn't exist.
Maybe they should grow the fuck and not bitch about silent cars that don't fuck the environment over then?
They aren't going to illegalize ICE cars in our lifetime.
I mean, there's already a push in a lot of countries to do so by 2030... so?
Illegalize existing cars or force new cars to be electric? There's a big difference.
Lol at these comments. You're scared of the cultural change, aren't you. How...conservative
Frankly I'm fucking tired of the noise, the communities being polluted by exhaust, the assholes driving dangerously in their mustangs and lifted trucks for attention and male ego validation, and the whole climate change thing which you seem to prioritize below your lEgItiMaTe hObBiEs
Both, IIRC. Germany and France and some of the Nordic countries are doing it.
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It is possible to like cars and also like electric vehicles and a cleaner, less noisy environment while voicing my like of ICE sounds. Man this thread was not meant to be so full of anger haha
Source?!
These countries all want to only sell EVs from 2030 but not ban existing gas ones.
Banning certain cars happens only in regards to older Diesels. Even then only in parts of cities. At least in germany.
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Liking cars doesn't mean you subscribe to toxic masculinity/are a Trump supporter or that you care more about cars than the environment. Like whoa those accusations are serious dude, chill out, not cool.
Some of the responses here are so ridiculous. The ignorant knowledge of why EVs are fast and the shitting on people who like ICE cars.
I bet most of you that called out people enjoying ICE cars aren't doing as much as you can for the environment. It's such a petty thing to complain about, no wonder everyone is always complaining about people complaining...here I am doing just that lmao
I see why OP would say this but I will take both types of vehicles. They each have their own perks in regards to user satisfaction. Tesla P100D is truly an amazing experience as an enthusiast, but so is my biturbo 6 cyl BMW, I wouldn't trade one for another.
I bet most of you that called out people enjoying ICE cars aren't doing as much as you can for the environment. It's such a petty thing to complain about, no wonder everyone is always complaining about people complaining...here I am doing just that lmao
I see why OP would say this but I will take both types of vehicles. They each have their own perks in regards to user satisfaction. Tesla P100D is truly an amazing experience as an enthusiast, but so is my biturbo 6 cyl BMW, I wouldn't trade one for another.
I'd be fine with them offering audio cues internally that sound like muscle cars if that's what these folks want. External sound if you're gonna have any should be of higher pitch so it's easy to locate the source of sound. There, you got your roaring muscle car to yourself and everyone else gets the friendly jingle like all those equipment in factories that's a death hazard are required to.
At first I was like, yeah, it gives away what the video is. Then I realized its not even a trumpet.
They belong in a museum!!So you went to a car show not expecting any of them to be running?
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The lack of sound was the first thing I noticed, and that lack of aural sensation doesn't go away. I'm not sure how you can't notice it?
I was being hyperbolic. I just meant it's so fast that the lack of sound has no impact on fun.
I don't get how some are just jumping to the conclusion that those who enjoy the noise are spreading some macho-toxic-madness and are afraid of change. I also don't understand why some being a fan of noise automatically mean dangerous public driving.
I'm not saying that problem does not exist, but Autocross/RallyCross/Track Days are a thing. For some, like me, your daily driver is your track toy and I personally like the fact that when it's time to put the car through it's paces, it gives you audible feedback. It just gives you a better connection to the car, especially those who drive manual, IMO.
Living in LA, those polluting drivers have been replaced with faster, more dangerous silent accelerating Teslas. The amount of fuckery I've seen on my commutes are mostly attributed to those engineering marvels. I understand the concerns and frustrations but Tesla being a "quiet" car doesn't mean it's not contributing to any sort of pollution, batteries do damage to the world also. Whatever the solution is in the future, I'm all for it.
I'm not saying that problem does not exist, but Autocross/RallyCross/Track Days are a thing. For some, like me, your daily driver is your track toy and I personally like the fact that when it's time to put the car through it's paces, it gives you audible feedback. It just gives you a better connection to the car, especially those who drive manual, IMO.
Living in LA, those polluting drivers have been replaced with faster, more dangerous silent accelerating Teslas. The amount of fuckery I've seen on my commutes are mostly attributed to those engineering marvels. I understand the concerns and frustrations but Tesla being a "quiet" car doesn't mean it's not contributing to any sort of pollution, batteries do damage to the world also. Whatever the solution is in the future, I'm all for it.
dont confuse macho with actually understand vehicle dynamics and how tq/hp delivery matter for off the line acceleration. You're talking about one point that doesn't mean squat if others aren't there. I've already disproved you here with plain and simple video evidence and you won't even watch it bc that's how small and fragile your opinion is.
The only thing toxic here is you. Your inability to understand off the line acceleration is entirely dependent on grip not some on/off torque curve. Learn to drive first then come back here and talk please. On the street awd is everything for sub 3 second 0-60 not some electric power delivery. If your argument held water the rs7 and 911 turbo wouldn't be faster and they are. The 911 turbo is the fastest stock 1/4 and 0-60 car I've seen tested. Car and driver said it's the most brutal acceleration they've ever experienced and yet not electric. Please brilliant sir explain to my simple mind how that could be.