(Accidental) Explosion at military base in North-West Russia (yes, a second one this week)

Cas

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Oct 27, 2017
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Dang, after watching Chernobyl recently, this is scary stuff for Russia to be repeating.
 

Gengahrrr

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Oct 25, 2017
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So after watching Chernobyl, are we to assume this is probably much worse than Russia is letting on?
 

Cyanity

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Oct 25, 2017
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So wait, if this accident is related to nuclear propulsion tech for ICBMs, what happens to the areas ostensibly hit by these missiles? Is russia seriously creating dirty bombs right now?
 
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Shodan14

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So wait, if this accident is related to nuclear propulsion tech for ICBMs, what happens to the areas ostensibly hit by these missiles? Is russia seriously creating dirty bombs right now?
Less ICBM and more nuclear powered cruise missile, even if the end effect is similar-ish.

I'd be more worried about the exhaust than the collateral damage, seeing as these would be carrying nuclear warheads if ever used anyway.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Not to sound like Dyatlov but...
So after watching Chernobyl, are we to assume this is probably much worse than Russia is letting on?
Probably not this time around.
If there was a major incident someone in Scandinavia would have detected the radiation by now like they did with Chernobyl.
Holy shit...after watching that Rachel Maddow bit....this is like Chernobyl 2.0...
Rachel Maddow: Nuclear Expert lol.
 
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Shodan14

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Trickle trickle:

Reuters: Norway detects radioactive iodine by Russian border days after blast
OSLO (Reuters) - Norway’s nuclear safety authority is analyzing tiny amounts of radioactive iodine detected in the air in northern Norway in the days after a deadly explosion during a rocket engine test over the border in Russia.

Russia’s state nuclear agency, Rosatom, said on Saturday that five people killed in the blast were its staff members, and the accident involved “isotope power sources”, giving no further details.

Norway’s radiation and nuclear safety authority DSA said it had detected the radioactive iodine at its air filter station in Svanhovd, which is by the Russian border. A river separates the two countries.The samples were collected in the period Aug. 9-12, while the accident in the Arkhangelsk region of northern Russia occurred on Aug. 8, it said.
 
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Shodan14

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How bad is radioactive iodine? I remember they took iodine pills in Chernobyl but that's it.
It causes thyrotoxicosis which is one of the more common things you can get from nuclear fallout (more specifically iodine-131 gets stored in the thyroid gland and fucks your shit up). Taking potassium iodide can stop this by preventing the buildup.

There's still plenty of other isotopes that you also don't want to breathe in that aren't so easy to avoid if you can't just leave the affected area. Basically you get radiated by things directly irradiating you, mostly with gamma rays or by a number of radioactive isotopes that get absorbed into the body and act as their non-radioactive cousins but also slowly radiate you from inside out.
 
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Commedieu

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Nov 11, 2017
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So its,

1. Nuclear Sub
2. Possible Nuclear Reactor that this thread is about.
3. Their Nuclear reaactor Missle..

right?
 

Steel

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Oct 25, 2017
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So its,

1. Nuclear Sub
2. Possible Nuclear Reactor that this thread is about.
3. Their Nuclear reaactor Missle..

right?
It's basically guaranteed to involve a weapon. The radiation spike coincided with an explosion at a military base and the Russians even admitted it involved a weapon. A nuclear propelled cruise missile is probably the cause.
 

Commedieu

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It's basically guaranteed to involve a weapon. The radiation spike coincided with an explosion at a military base and the Russians even admitted it involved a weapon. A nuclear propelled cruise missile is probably the cause.
Thats what im asking though. Is it two separate nuclear explosions or issues.

1 the powerplant of skyfall or whatever..

And 2.. There eas a nuclear plant at the base. That first explosion at the base looked like a nuclear blast.
 

Steel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thats what im asking though. Is it two separate nuclear explosions or issues.

1 the powerplant of skyfall or whatever..

And 2.. There eas a nuclear plant at the base. That first explosion at the base looked like a nuclear blast.
The first explosion was an ammo explosion. There's only been one radiation related incident.
 

Commedieu

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Nov 11, 2017
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As far as we know. At the funeral a high-ranking navy officer did proclaim that the crew "prevented a planetary catastrophe" so make of that what you will.
Their Nuclear Submarine/drone missles are alleged to be able to be deployed from new submarines. I mean... they were built to launch the Poseidon..

So if they had 4 on board..? That maybe coulda got ugly.
 

Dark Knight

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As far as we know. At the funeral a high-ranking navy officer did proclaim that the crew "prevented a planetary catastrophe" so make of that what you will.
To be fair this "proclamation" could just be some passive propaganda as well.
Basically a subtle "we're at the ready to end the world at any moment" whether that was the case in this situation or not. Saying they stopped Armageddon is one way to save face as well.