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Gengahrrr

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So after watching Chernobyl, are we to assume this is probably much worse than Russia is letting on?
 

Cyanity

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So wait, if this accident is related to nuclear propulsion tech for ICBMs, what happens to the areas ostensibly hit by these missiles? Is russia seriously creating dirty bombs right now?
 
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Shodan14

Shodan14

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So wait, if this accident is related to nuclear propulsion tech for ICBMs, what happens to the areas ostensibly hit by these missiles? Is russia seriously creating dirty bombs right now?
Less ICBM and more nuclear powered cruise missile, even if the end effect is similar-ish.

I'd be more worried about the exhaust than the collateral damage, seeing as these would be carrying nuclear warheads if ever used anyway.
 
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Not to sound like Dyatlov but...
So after watching Chernobyl, are we to assume this is probably much worse than Russia is letting on?
Probably not this time around.
If there was a major incident someone in Scandinavia would have detected the radiation by now like they did with Chernobyl.
Holy shit...after watching that Rachel Maddow bit....this is like Chernobyl 2.0...
Rachel Maddow: Nuclear Expert lol.
 
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Shodan14

Shodan14

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Trickle trickle:

Reuters: Norway detects radioactive iodine by Russian border days after blast
OSLO (Reuters) - Norway's nuclear safety authority is analyzing tiny amounts of radioactive iodine detected in the air in northern Norway in the days after a deadly explosion during a rocket engine test over the border in Russia.

Russia's state nuclear agency, Rosatom, said on Saturday that five people killed in the blast were its staff members, and the accident involved "isotope power sources", giving no further details.

Norway's radiation and nuclear safety authority DSA said it had detected the radioactive iodine at its air filter station in Svanhovd, which is by the Russian border. A river separates the two countries.The samples were collected in the period Aug. 9-12, while the accident in the Arkhangelsk region of northern Russia occurred on Aug. 8, it said.
 
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Shodan14

Shodan14

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How bad is radioactive iodine? I remember they took iodine pills in Chernobyl but that's it.
It causes thyrotoxicosis which is one of the more common things you can get from nuclear fallout (more specifically iodine-131 gets stored in the thyroid gland and fucks your shit up). Taking potassium iodide can stop this by preventing the buildup.

There's still plenty of other isotopes that you also don't want to breathe in that aren't so easy to avoid if you can't just leave the affected area. Basically you get radiated by things directly irradiating you, mostly with gamma rays or by a number of radioactive isotopes that get absorbed into the body and act as their non-radioactive cousins but also slowly radiate you from inside out.
 
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Commedieu

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Nov 11, 2017
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So its,

1. Nuclear Sub
2. Possible Nuclear Reactor that this thread is about.
3. Their Nuclear reaactor Missle..

right?
 

Steel

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Oct 25, 2017
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So its,

1. Nuclear Sub
2. Possible Nuclear Reactor that this thread is about.
3. Their Nuclear reaactor Missle..

right?
It's basically guaranteed to involve a weapon. The radiation spike coincided with an explosion at a military base and the Russians even admitted it involved a weapon. A nuclear propelled cruise missile is probably the cause.
 

Commedieu

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Nov 11, 2017
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It's basically guaranteed to involve a weapon. The radiation spike coincided with an explosion at a military base and the Russians even admitted it involved a weapon. A nuclear propelled cruise missile is probably the cause.

Thats what im asking though. Is it two separate nuclear explosions or issues.

1 the powerplant of skyfall or whatever..

And 2.. There eas a nuclear plant at the base. That first explosion at the base looked like a nuclear blast.
 

Steel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thats what im asking though. Is it two separate nuclear explosions or issues.

1 the powerplant of skyfall or whatever..

And 2.. There eas a nuclear plant at the base. That first explosion at the base looked like a nuclear blast.
The first explosion was an ammo explosion. There's only been one radiation related incident.
 

Tawpgun

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HBO's marketing money is insane

but seriously, hope everyone is ok. Fuck that government.
 

Commedieu

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As far as we know. At the funeral a high-ranking navy officer did proclaim that the crew "prevented a planetary catastrophe" so make of that what you will.

Their Nuclear Submarine/drone missles are alleged to be able to be deployed from new submarines. I mean... they were built to launch the Poseidon..

So if they had 4 on board..? That maybe coulda got ugly.
 

Dark Knight

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As far as we know. At the funeral a high-ranking navy officer did proclaim that the crew "prevented a planetary catastrophe" so make of that what you will.
To be fair this "proclamation" could just be some passive propaganda as well.
Basically a subtle "we're at the ready to end the world at any moment" whether that was the case in this situation or not. Saying they stopped Armageddon is one way to save face as well.
 

Culex

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Must have been an insane dose of radiation if it killed them in 24 hours, no?
 
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Shodan14

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Must have been an insane dose of radiation if it killed them in 24 hours, no?
Yup, that's pretty crazy. In Chernobyl 31 people died of acute radiation sickness over 3 months.

And just to visualize the lethal amount, please refer to this handy XKCD chart:
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Shodan14

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And another one:

Russian nuclear accident: Medics fear 'radioactive patients'
Russian medics who treated radiation victims after a military explosion in the Arctic had no protection and now fear they were irradiated themselves.

The medics were at the civilian Arkhangelsk regional hospital, which treated three of the injured, while three other casualties were taken to an Arkhangelsk hospital called Semashko, which is equipped for radiation emergencies.

The Arkhangelsk medics said it was clear that the three brought to their regional hospital were very sick. Doctors examined them in the emergency room, then sent them to an operating theatre.

But the emergency room continued to admit other patients for about an hour, the medics said, until the doctors realised that the three "had received a very high radiation dose". The hospital handles pregnancy complications and other difficult medical conditions.

"The radiation picture was developing by the hour. Blood tests were being done, and every hour you could see that this or that cell count was plunging. That signified a very high radiation dose," they said.

A military team later carried out decontamination work in the Arkhangelsk hospital.

The medics said the casualties' clothing was removed, along with stretchers and a "highly radioactive bath".

"Our cleaners should have been advised, they're just simple country folk, they were just picking up sacks and bundles and carrying them out," said one.
 
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Shodan14

Shodan14

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Ok hopefully the last piece of news on this:

Russian doctor found with radioactive isotope in body after military test explosion, officials say
Officials in a northern Russian city have confirmed one of the doctors who treated victims of an apparent explosion during a rocket test was found to have a radioactive isotope in his body.

The local health ministry blamed the trace amounts of radioactive material on bad seafood after the doctor treated patients from an area where a radiation spike was recorded.

"Cesium-137 … has the feature of accumulating in fish, mushrooms, lichens, algae," the statement posted on the local government's website read.