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HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,664
Have they considered the option of making crossplay work between consoles only?

Oh. And F2P is nice.
 

Meg Cherry

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,279
Seattle, WA
Not too shocking. I imagine they'll get it on EA Play/Game Pass ahead of schedule, presumably once they can fix some of the game's more glaring issues.
 

Kill3r7

Member
Oct 25, 2017
24,438
They need to fix it first but F2P is not a bad idea. They are currently running an EA Play promo. They should consider adding it to EA Play as a way to get more people to try it and the service out.
 

Dest

Has seen more 10s than EA ever will
Coward
Jun 4, 2018
14,056
Work
Going F2P is a good idea, but EA should consider making it a good game and not rushing things out the door first.
 

VoltySquirrel

Member
Oct 25, 2017
490
That's one thing me and EA have in common: being deeply disappointed in 2042. Sadly our ideas how to fix that disappointment are very different.
 

DarthWalden

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
6,030
Too Bad.

You can't tell a ton of hard work, love and effort went into that game.
It just feels like they didn't have quite enough time to get it all together and competition was really stiff with F2P games like Halo Infinite, Fornite, and CoD Warzone either launching or launching some big new updates in the same time frame.
 

Jarrod38

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,677
This would be the best option go free to play. Just going by my friends list I will see maybe one person playing at least once a week.
 

EvilChameleon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,793
Ohio
F2P would instantly get a ton of XBOX and PlayStation gamers, since you don't need subscription fees to play F2P games on those platforms.
 

Xeonidus

“Fuck them kids.”
Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,278
Hopefully they reward players who bought it if they go this route...

I put close to 30 hours in it, and plan to put many more but the focus should be on fixing the issues. Make a good game and players will come. Making a broken game free to play won't do much long term.
 
Honestly considering the state of the game and its cross-gen nature it's a poor choice and it'll take ages to fix the games' problems. Honestly I don't know what I'd have DICE themselves do because frankly the way BF is developed is utterly unsustainable since this title as Tom has rumored that was developed under 2 years. Besides considering how divisive 2042 is, it's not like Halo Infinite where it's very close to the glory days for most Halo Players which just needs more content, Forge etc. And it's not guaranteed that just F2P with bug fixes and "legacy" features are going to draw a load of people in.

I think the ideal place for Battlefield would be to go the Forza direction, you can't please everyone, imagine if FH5 was a 2020 release but had to have a load of tracks as FM had? It'd be a disaster. Two teams, 4 year dev cycles with a BF releasing every 2 years with a different focus (one a more tactical orientated BF2 & BFV and the other more arcadey like BC2 & Hardline).
 

Torian

Member
Aug 16, 2019
675
Even if it went f2p they still would need to fix the fundamental flaws bf2042 has.
It's not like there aren't great alternatives in the f2p space.
 

zma1013

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,686
I have advice for future Battlefield releases

1. Release a finished product. Give the dev team more time.

2. Scale back your ambitions and deliver a core Battlefield experience.

3. Stop with the gimmicks (levelution, tornadoes, etc)

4. Stop trying to be the Swiss Army Knife of gaming. Stop chasing trends and trying to cram every single one of them into the game.

5. Basic features expected from a multiplayer game since 1999. (Scoreboard, team switching, custom servers, etc.)
 
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Falchion

Member
Oct 25, 2017
40,954
Boise
Yeah I skipped this because it'll come to EA Play eventually and in a much better state from the multiplayer perspective. Plus there's too much free competition (Apex for me) to make me want to drop $60 for a multiplayer game.
 

BassForever

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
29,939
CT
Crazy to think that Halo almost launched in a similar state last year, but Microsoft knew they "had to get it right" and gave the game a year delay and now people adore it.
 

medyej

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,439
Unsurprising, game is a straight disaster and has been plummeting in player count.
 
Jul 26, 2018
2,386
I really regret spending $110 on this.. ffs.... by far my BIGGEST regret based on gaming.

Personally imo, I still think going F2P is a ok idea to get more players yet they're gonna have to fix this game since it's still broken. Not installing it until they fix PC performances.

I also think they're not making the entire game free.. probably just coming to EA Play or maybe make Hazard Zone and Portal free. Hazard Zone is already a ghost town...
 

Cess007

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,114
B.C., Mexico
1. Release a finished product. Give the dev team more time.

EA to you right now:

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Askherserenity

Prophet of Truth - Chicken Chaser
Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,048
They should've just made a good Battlefield game and not whatever the fuck they're trying to turn it into.
 

UltimateHigh

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,500
it's just not the proper sequel to battlefield 4 I wanted..

I dont need or want bigger maps or 128 players.
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,664
Next time finish the fucking game, stop releasing unfinished games..

It's not just the unfinished state of it, from what I played it doesn't even feel or flow like Battlefield. Maps are too big. Nobody plays like a squad. Operators.

And the lack of a scoreboard is still the weirdest choice ever. I felt like they had the blueprint to make the best BF game ever but went in a direction I wasn't expecting.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,407
They are looking at all options except probably the one that would make the most difference to players: spending more money and time on improving it. I'm going to guess they will pivot in some direction half-heartedly and then gripe again in 12-18 months. Then promise that the next one will be a return to form. Except it's already under development so that will mean a pivot for whatever it currently is. Repeat and repeat. They should create a clear vision for a BF game and then give the developers an appropriate amount of time (and resources) to complete that vision.

I have no faith in EA doing this.
 

Sagroth

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,838
I'm disappointed in EA executives for always f$&king everything up and then immediately taking the wrong lessons from it.
 
Jul 26, 2018
2,386
I also forget to mention that imo, the damage is already done. The FPS community knows that this is simply a bad game and most are just moving on. Also no new content until March... and that's just ONE MAP! ONE MAPPP! 1!! UNO! And a new specialist which most won't care..

Also no proper scoreboard until next late month... oof.

Battlefront 2 and BFV died for this btw....
 

Lagspike_exe

Banned
Dec 15, 2017
1,974
Terrible game and a huge disappointment for me, especially since I preordered this on the PS5. Never again for a Battlefield title.

They are trying to turn it into everything, but it succeeds in nothing.

This. The old 64p formula with classes was golden. It required tweaking, not a rebuild that ended up not fun to play.
 

kostacurtas

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,063
Nothing surprising here.

To be honest I am done with the franchise as I don't really expect a good Battlefield game anymore.
 

Jarrod38

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,677
I also forget to mention that imo, the damage is already done. The FPS community knows that this is simply a bad game and most are just moving on. Also no new content until March... and that's just ONE MAP! ONE MAPPP! 1!! UNO! And a new specialist which most won't care..

Also no proper scoreboard until next late month... oof.

Battlefront 2 and BFV died for this btw....
Even the score that they came up with is a mess.
 

Mass Effect

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 31, 2017
16,791
Game's a mess from what I played from the free weekend. I won't bother until it's in a good state.
 

PeskyToaster

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,314
I also forget to mention that imo, the damage is already done. The FPS community knows that this is simply a bad game and most are just moving on. Also no new content until March... and that's just ONE MAP! ONE MAPPP! 1!! UNO! And a new specialist which most won't care..

Also no proper scoreboard until next late month... oof.

Battlefront 2 and BFV died for this btw....

This is the probably too. When they release a game too early, everything else gets delayed because they are still working on actually finishing the game. Should have a pack of four maps and a couple guns ready to go at launch basically in this era so you can release them in December/January. Remasters of past favorites are good for that.

This. The old 64p formula with classes was golden. It required tweaking, not a rebuild that ended up not fun to play.
It's weird to change it up when the formula is so popular and the only reason the series still exists. It's the only thing that differentiates it because no one else is doing large scale battles with the sort of immersion and teamplay that the class system creates. And it would be super easy to graft the specialists onto the traditional class system since they are pretty much already set up for it. Past games had different uniforms, vehicles, and languages for 4+ countries/teams, why dial back on all that? I can't think of too many good reasons, only really poor ones. Would've preferred EA to get bought tbh because Battlefield (V and 2042) would've benefited immensely from the extra year Halo got.
 

AndyD

Mambo Number PS5
Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,602
Nashville
I hope one of the options is making a single player campaign! Please :)
The thing is they said they want to bring more story based content to Hazard Zone of all things. Almost like that's where they can build a story/campaign? Though that makes me think of a take on Fortnite and it's seasons/stories, not classic BF campaigns.
 

Kaah

Banned
Jun 3, 2019
1,823
Paris
Game is awful.
My idea ? just focus on improving the base game for the next 8-12 months. Rework the maps, rework the specialists, rework Hazard Zone and relaunch the game as Battlefield 2043 at the end of the year.
 

EVA UNIT 01

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,735
CA
Have they considered making a good game?
Or allowing enough time for that to happen?

snark aside it's always time.
 

Shoot

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,548
I have advice for future Battlefield releases

1. Release a finished product. Give the dev team more time.

2. Scale back your ambitions and deliver a core Battlefield experience.

3. Stop with the gimmicks (levelution, tornadoes, etc)

4. Stop trying to be the Swiss Army Knife of gaming. Stop chasing trends and trying to cram every single one of them into the game.

5. Basic features expected from a multiplayer game since 1999. (Scoreboard, team switching, custom servers, etc.)
Agreed but levelution was awesome. 2042's weather/tornado system is a sad imitation.
 

Pancracio17

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 29, 2017
18,779
They were the fucks that saw a clearly broken ass game and delayed it a meager 3 weeks. You cant really be complaining about sales falling off a cliff at that point.
 

Thera

Banned
Feb 28, 2019
12,876
France
Always nice for people that paid and though, with that money, the game would be fixed.
But no, don't fix it and go free to play.