But for real now, there is a map you can pull up. It just shows the different areas you visited and can't be used for navigation. It's there, but nothing really useful. You still have to navigate "blindly" like in Soulsborne games
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Activision supposedly not sending out early review copies for Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice [update: some review copies are out, see threadmarks]
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But for real now, there is a map you can pull up. It just shows the different areas you visited and can't be used for navigation. It's there, but nothing really useful. You still have to navigate "blindly" like in Soulsborne games
It's pretty gross when the framepacing issues hit or the ugly CA rears its head.
I was skeptical before it came out, and wouldn't have if not for reviews and forums. EZA is my go to as of now.
First thanks God because those youtuber influencers are complete joke. Look at metro on consoles. Nobody said anything about how bad the game behaves on consoles. This mask publicity stunt needs to end. Because of this influencers I spent money on trash games. I hope in the future all game companies do the same thing.
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then you just wait like 2 days? Honestly the general public almost always finds those issues before reviewers anyway (plus reviewers are almost 1000% of the time playing a different build anyway if they're playing pre-release so it's all moot)
I thought it was great and so did a handful of other people.
They earned it's reputation.
Same deal for me if it was a Retro , Ueda or Mikami game, I can blindly buy it, because even if it is not as good as their previous games, you can bet there some parts of it will be stelar and above 90% of the stuff we have.
This is some cosmic mistake. I'm always confused why an auto map should be present unless it's some game set in a modern/future world with technology that allows it.
But still, no reason to be anti-consumer. How is it any different than everything being spoiled withing hours of release before most even have a chance to play from data miners? Besides shut was already leaked, if this is the reason it is still unacceptable.
This sucks and there's no use defending it.
Sekiro is my most anticipated game of the year and I'm buying it no matter what. Regardless, this is not something I support.
Sekiro is my most anticipated game of the year and I'm buying it no matter what. Regardless, this is not something I support.
Still keeping my preorder. Its FromSoftware, I have loved every game they have made since 2009.
Exactly. I can't think of any game getting critical praise when review copies aren't sent
Being told you're wrong culture is toxic and you should feel bad. /S
Getting around the environments, memorizing paths based on landmarks and enemy positioning is a core part of these games. There is a reason there's no map.
And if you're fine with fog of war then your problem is not being able to navigate in parts you've already explored? How does that work?
Dark Souls 2 was made without Miyazaki basically and while the Dark Souls (1) team was developing Bloodborne. Sekiro on the other hand is made by the same team as Bloodborne incl. Miyazaki.
lol the amount of defending and downplaying that goes on when it's something made by someone people like.
The reason Activision is doing this it to normalize the lack of day one reviews. If some great games release wthout day 1 reviews, it'll raise less warning flags in the future even if the next game they do this with is shit
They kept showing the same boring area over and over again. Wouldn't surprise me if the game is light on content. Seems to be a souls-lite anyways.
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I'm fine with fog of war in places I haven't been, not places I already have lol. I lived demons souls and was burned out by the time I made it through dark souls so I think I'm just burned out with feeling like I'm fumbling around in the dark in regards to places I've already been. Just seems like an insane decision to me.
I think the real issue may be I'm just over the souls games is all, and thats fine.
I'm fine with fog of war in places I haven't been, not places I already have lol. I lived demons souls and was burned out by the time I made it through dark souls so I think I'm just burned out with feeling like I'm fumbling around in the dark in regards to places I've already been. Just seems like an insane decision to me.
I think the real issue may be I'm just over the souls games is all, and thats fine.
Rightfully so. This team hasn't messed up yet and all previews of the game have been glowing. There's no reason for worry whatsoever.
Prey has a 79 metacritc. Not that I think its bad but some will certainly make a big deal if this game scores in that range.
I hate the look of this, but maybe more handholding would get more people to play From Software games. As long as you can turn options off, there's never any harm in adding more accessibility.
Probably because miyazaki doesnt make bad games and until he does there is little reason to worry?
Except the harm that comes from getting an entirely different experience than what they intended players to have and the fact that souls games already sell incredibly well, with the large draw of them being they're uncompromising vision.
I'm speaking for myself here, but all I stated is that From Software's output has consistently pleased me and all that was shown from Sekiro indicates the streak will continue. And if it's a game I'm bent on getting, no reviews will change that anyway.
That's what I was saying, since you're ok with fog of war you need a map for parts you've aleady been through? Again, these games aren't that confusing. Dark Souls 1 indeed had literally dark areas that were hard to traverse, but also were not really meant to be traversed multiple times outside of dying and having to backtrack. And if you can't memorize something you've been at 5 minutes earlier I really can't help you, nor can the devs of the game. Sekiro isn't dark for the most part so that should be no concern.
Bloodborne is masterclass leveldesign and like, 99% of the people who played it would agree with that. There's nothing insane about it outside of how insanely well crafted it is. Again, the shortcut from the Lost Woods to the clinic from the very start of the game alone is better leveldesign than pretty much anything else in gaming.
I wouldn't write Sekiro off just like that, but I'm not you.
True, but maybe that's the experience some players want. Again, it might not be for me or you, but adding a minimal and quest objectives could be what makes a game more accessible and enjoyable to someone else. Same with an easier difficulty setting.
All of this released by the publisher, they won't show any issues
That's not the game Miyazaki wants to make. Going for the largest audience possible is what makes many AAA games stale and similar. From's approach makes their games stand out from the crowd.
Hate to tell you this buddy.................................. neither will a lot of reviewers.
Not to defend the practice or anything, but if you can't wait 12 hours to make sure the game isn't completely broken out of the box for other users, maybe you have bigger problems than not being able to read reviews.
But more options doesn't make the game worse for anyone else who wants the intended experience.
It goes against his design philosophy of oppresive worlds in which the player has to overcome great odds. It's his creative vision.
There is a reason for there only existing one difficulty. There is a reason for no map existing. It's the devs vision of their game. Maybe they like everyone experiencing the game in the same way, which surely helped to build a strong community when the franchise started to increase in popularity.
Maybe they know that their games systems are heavily intertwined with the challenge. If there was no challenge you would never think about whether to push through to the next bonfire/lantern or go back. The exploration would lose any bit of tension. The whole game would lose some of it's opressive atmosphere.
It's an integral part of their design philosophy of making the player fail, learn and overcome obstacles. People who don't like to fail a bit in games just should play something else instead of demanding that the game was tailored to them.
Not every game has to be made for everybody. If I suck at FPS games, I don't go around demanding aim assist from the devs, I just accept that it's not really my thing and move on.
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