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Q-Train

Designer at Zenimax Online
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
50
San Diego
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Lemstar

Member
Oct 25, 2017
738
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The sites that Elijah frequented all had relatively small pots. He could afford to visit others only as a spectator. One of them was CSGO Lotto, a high-stakes skins casino where two of his favorite YouTubers, Martin and Cassell, were rolling in the spring of 2016.

Cassell streamed himself playing a coin flip game called Duel. In one instance, he bet skins worth $957 and murmured "Please ..." as a virtual coin spun. When it came up his way, he leaped out of his seat and gave a double middle finger to his computer screen in apparent glee.

Martin seemed even more audacious. He streamed himself throwing three skins worth a total of $4,444 into a pot, then waited on edge as 10 bars of a slot machine swirled. When four of the bars turned his way, he ran into another room, screaming, "Oh my god. Woooo, hooo, hooo, hooo! Woooo!" Emboldened, he threw two more skins into the next pot, making it worth $8,826. Despite an odds counter that showed him with an 18.84 percent chance of winning, the slots came up his way again. His reaction was earsplitting.

Martin labeled that video "How to Win 13,000 in Five Minutes" and left it on his YouTube channel, where Elijah saw it.
Martin denied rigging bets in his favor. He even pointed his hand-held camera at his pet Labrador and said, "I swear to God, on Cooper's life." But inexplicably, a minute later he conceded that he used his own skins on only 70 percent of his bets; the rest were skins belonging to the site, which had been raking in gains from customers' losses.

Let's not try to spin what those guys were doing as merely shilling their own site.
 

LoyalPhoenix

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,766
ugh, how revisionist can you get? simple "advertising" now, is it?

again, its kinda the fastest way i can type it, I already know everything else you mentioned i wasn't try to rewrite history here. Im not defending him or making it seem less. He is a cunt but i dont think morally doing what he did is somehow worse than trying to have sex with a little boy that's just fucked.
 
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Jackpot

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
1,827
i mean clearly no one cared outside of sites like this so *shrug* im actually curious how much they will raise on launch day.

"lulz, no one cares so all ethical considerations are invalidated"

Don't really see how that response links to the post you were replying to.

yeah i know that stuff, i just didn't wanna type it all out since i assumed most of us were on the same page. Im legit typing this as rounds change for Search and Destroy in COD lmao

You knew it but still tried to portray it as otherwise in your posts?

Something tells me you're not arguing in good faith.
 

LoyalPhoenix

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,766
Something tells me you're not arguing in good faith.

I mean i guess read it as whatever you want. I still think trying to have sex with kids is worse than what he did and that a company has the right to hire or partner with anyone they choose to do something even if its seen as right or wrong. Im sure that if he wasn't in the official stream he still would have participated in "The Race" and maybe even had a charity thing going on which i think other streamers are doing but im not sure and he would get called out for trying to fix his image. In the end ill forget about him yet again until some controversy with him pops up again in like 8-11 months.