This was years ago.
Narrator: His intellect did not bloom.
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Actresses, CEOs arrested in nationwide college admissions cheating scam
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This was years ago.
Narrator: His intellect did not bloom.
In India, there's a percentage of student intake set aside as 'donation seats' in STEM schools so this kind of behaviour is actually codified!
Funny thing, I am in the middle of watching a Korean drama called Sky Castle that actually centers around this stuff.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...eas-cutthroat-education-culture-idUSKCN1PS01X
Yeah no, entrance exams are literally treated like a life and death scenario in India, China, South Korea and Japan. (And that's only the ones I know of). Cram schools and tutoring are multi-billion dollar industries.
Funny thing, I am in the middle of watching a Korean drama called Sky Castle that actually centers around this stuff.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...eas-cutthroat-education-culture-idUSKCN1PS01X
Yeah no, entrance exams are literally treated like a life and death scenario in India, China, South Korea and Japan. (And that's only the ones I know of). Cram schools and tutoring are multi-billion dollar industries.
I think a lot of people are missing this. The application asked for a writing sample as an example of your current writing style.
This student thought they wanted to see what their handwriting was like and provided a sample. THAT'S why they're a moron.
I think a lot of people are missing this. The application asked for a writing sample as an example of your current writing style.
This student thought they wanted to see what their handwriting was like and provided a sample. THAT'S why they're a moron.
👍 thanks for giving some context here
Yeah. The idea that entrance exams are treated special in the US laughably ignores countries where they can literally make or break your entire future
I just read that a cooperating witness said that William Macy was is on the scam as well. I wonder why he hasn't been arrested, too.
https://www.seattlepi.com/education...ffman-Lori-Loughlin-college-SATs-13682502.php
https://www.seattlepi.com/education...ffman-Lori-Loughlin-college-SATs-13682502.php
I went to a 2 year community college that was 10 min away and got a 10x better quality education than when I transferred to finish out 4 years. Might also explain why my student debt was only $800 when I finished, too
Variety
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Lori Loughlin's Bail Set for $1 Million; Judge Sets Travel Conditions https://wp.me/p2WgDE-1jqlxx
6:21 PM - Mar 13, 2019
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Lori Loughlin's Bail Set for $1 Million; Judge Sets Travel Conditions https://wp.me/p2WgDE-1jqlxx
6:21 PM - Mar 13, 2019
Variety: Lori Loughlin's Bail Set for $1 Million; Judge Sets Travel Conditions
Lori Loughlin appeared in federal court in downtown Los Angeles on Wednesday afternoon, facing a charge of mail fraud in connection with the widespread college admissions bribery scheme.
Judge Steve Kim set her bail at $1,000,000, the same amount as her husband, Mossimo Giannulli, who is also being charged. Giannulli was not in court on Wednesday. The bond is secured against the couple's home, as well as their other assets.
Kim was originally reluctant to allow Loughlin to continue travelling to Vancouver for work, saying "I"m not comfortable giving her a passport for that kind of travel." But he relented and set conditions that she be allowed to travel as long as the court is aware of her destination and length of stay.
Her attorney Marc Harris explained that she is under contract for two more projects in April and May as well as a series slated to begin in July, all shooting in Vancouver.
Loughlin will also face charges in Boston Federal Court on March 29.
There was also a brief discussion about whether Loughlin would be allowed to discuss her case with anyone. The judge specified that she would be allowed to speak to her daughters and husband about the charges, but to no one else connected with the case.
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OMG: "My daughter and a group of students left for spring break prior to the government's announcement yesterday. Once we became aware of the investigation, the young woman decided it would be in her best interests to return home." https://www.tmz.com/2019/03/13/lori-loughlin-daughter-olivia-yacht-usc-board-of-trustees-rick-caruso/ …
6:47 PM - Mar 13, 2019
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OMG: "My daughter and a group of students left for spring break prior to the government's announcement yesterday. Once we became aware of the investigation, the young woman decided it would be in her best interests to return home." https://www.tmz.com/2019/03/13/lori-loughlin-daughter-olivia-yacht-usc-board-of-trustees-rick-caruso/ …
6:47 PM - Mar 13, 2019
TMZ: Daughter Olivia Leaves Yacht Owned By Top USC Official
As Lori Loughlin traveled from Vancouver to L.A. Tuesday night to surrender to federal authorities in the college bribery scandal -- which got her daughter, Olivia Jade, into USC -- Olivia spent the night on the yacht of the Chairman of USC's Board of Trustees ... but she's off the boat now, TMZ has learned.
We've learned 19-year-old Olivia was on Rick Caruso's yacht in the Bahamas. Caruso's daughter, Gianna, Olivia and several other friends were spending spring break in the area.
Gianna and Olivia have been friends for quite some time, occasionally posting photos of them together on social media.
Caruso, a billionaire who has major real estate holdings including The Grove in L.A., tells TMZ, "My daughter and a group of students left for spring break prior to the government's announcement yesterday. Once we became aware of the investigation, the young woman decided it would be in her best interests to return home." Olivia is off the yacht.
Caruso was elected Chairman of USC's Board of Trustees last year. We're told the Board will NOT decide the fate of Olivia and other students involved in the case. That decision is left squarely in the hands of the University's President.
Yea, we've veered a bit. Thank you for the conversation, though!
As someone who has taken classes at three state schools, completed 4 degrees with another on the way, and tutors at a community college, fully agreed. For what it's worth, she's an ex-aunt (or however that works in divorce).
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/13/us/cooperating-witnesses-college-admissions-scheme/index.html
The dude who took the tests for these kids:
The dude who took the tests for these kids:
I hope there are many more people out there who are shitting their pants right now wondering if they are next.
You pay the 500k and get into the college and then what? They still have to attend and pass classes. Or was there a second phase to the corruption once these kids got enrollment? Going by the USC chairman tweet, it looks like there absolutely was a second phase, at least at USC. I highly doubt the parents committed tax fraud and bribery so their kids can drop out in two years. Some families paying up to 6.5 million dollars, might as well put that money into his trust fund.
I think a lot of people are missing this. The application asked for a writing sample as an example of your current writing style.
This student thought they wanted to see what their handwriting was like and provided a sample. THAT'S why they're a moron.
I've been watching a lot of The Office today and whooo boy now I need a Young Michael Scott show because this is exactly what he would do.
christ, a lot of those twitter replies seems not to understand that she's not defending the kids in the recent case, but that she's critiquing the overall nature of how wealth and class operates in our society when it comes to conferring enormous advantages as well as a way of reproducing the class system through elite universities. this has been well studied with books like 'the state nobility: elite schools in the field of power' by pierre bourdieu or 'creating class: college admissions and the education of elites" by mitchell stevens. this case just shows how the rich are even more embolden to do this shit in the neo-gilded age and feel like they can get away with it.
but i see a lot of people around social media reducing this case to the personal and character/moral failings and to feel so self righteous and schadenfreude over the people involved. yes, it's very easy to get angry at the individuals involve in this case and to shame them in an instagram comment, but the anger and dialogue would be better directed a the system that produces and insures massive wealth inequality, corruption and mendacity in the first place. it's not just an isolated incident but part of the overall corruption and moral bankruptcy in america, from congress to the presidency, to the courts and corporations. hell, america voted in a billionaire that gave a 1.5 trillion tax giveaway to the rich, likely committed tax fraud in the '90s, and used to take calls from reporters under a different identity and speak fondly of himself. fraud and corruption ain't foreign to us, it rules us.
To be fair, there are people that either are just flat out better at interviews or can game interviews just like test takers can game tests. It adds a lot more subjectivity too, which I'm sure would open admissions up to calls of discrimination as well.
This happens in job interviews all the time.
They didn't go into detail on who paid what during the FBI press conference yesterday, but he said families paid from 15k to 6.5 million. We'll find out soon enough though.
Fun fact: the college interview was conceived in the early 1900's to covertly discriminate against Jewish applicants
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-ivy-leagues-history-of-discriminating-against-jews-2014-12
Pretty much. My community college didn't have a 4 year program for my degree, but in most ways re: my major I was actually advanced when I transferred to a well-regarded traditional university.
My local community college completely holds its own.
I think I remember seeing her on Hallmark/Lifetime type movies.
I've seen this come up a lot, but honestly a lot of the time the hardest part of going to a "good" college is just getting in. The rigors of coursework largely don't different between most schools. I once knew a student body president with nearly a 4.0 who literally could not grasp how to do proper MLA in a writing-heavy field; they asked me to help them once and I was aghast. Contrarily, I've tutored community college kids who had 15-page finals as freshmen.
In fact, the better the institution often the more pressure to inflate grades.
That's fair, though I'd argue the interview helps reflect a more holistic approach that combines transcripts, employment, writing samples, test scores, etc.
Admittedly, I'm hugely biased on this because I tend to perform very well in interviews.
Doesn't matter that much, her husband is the one who's loaded.
Someone tell those students suing Harvard that the FBI found the real 'seat stealers' and shocking to anybody who isn't a racist it wasn't Tyrone who plays basketball for scholarships.
Probably not unless she gets residuals, but she's a major player on Lifetime. Main character on their top show. Perhaps not anymore though.
I think I remember the recent Asian American vs. Harvard Admissions process lawsuit (which itself was like a thinly disguised attack on affirmative action, let's not go into that here) alleged that Harvard has a similar holistic approach and that Asian American applicants were being scored lower in the "personality" traits to discriminate against them. I haven't looked the articles up again but I think that's what's alleged, and that's probably also the problem with having interviews be a large part of every admissions process.
She is married to Mossimo Giannulli, though, he of the shitty Target clothing. He's worth tens of millions.
Yeah, she's not hurting for cash either way. But she actually still had somewhat of a career. Perhaps not anymore though.
I don't know, who else are you going to cast in lifetime movies?
From last year:
BuzzFeed News @BuzzFeedNews
A former Texas official asked a biracial student whether he got into Harvard on "merit or quota" https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein/a-former-texas-official-asked-a-biracial-student-whether-he?utm_term=4ldqpgc&bftwnews#4ldqpgc …
4:07 PM - Apr 21, 2018
A former Texas official asked a biracial student whether he got into Harvard on "merit or quota" https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein/a-former-texas-official-asked-a-biracial-student-whether-he?utm_term=4ldqpgc&bftwnews#4ldqpgc …
4:07 PM - Apr 21, 2018
BFN: A Former Texas Official Asked A Biracial Harvard Admit Whether He Got In On "Merit Or Quota"
Hollywood in short supply of fairly attractive middle age white women. Anyhow, her job is safe because many of her colleagues and bosses see nothing wrong with what she did because they've probably done it themselves, hell she was probably referred by a colleague.
That would be pretty amazing if like a ton of Lifetime actresses were caught in this scandal and Liftetime had to do a complete do-over of their casting.
Private anything is a scam to perpetuate the system and castes in our society? I am stunned by this revelation. As well as the revelation that the wealthy exploit their wealth to maintain the balance of power and continue their legacy with their children.
The concept of a meritocracy is laughable.
The concept of a meritocracy is laughable.
Bet you they're already planning a movie based on this incident.
Definitely... but really I'm supposed to care about them more than my own progeny? Let's be real
Either reverse the actressses or get lacey Chabert and Danica McKellar to play them
Can't believe I am old enough to see Lacey Chabert play a mom with teenage children. RIP Party of Five