HBO's four-part series, "The Case Against Adnan Syed," is set to begin on Sunday.
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Adnan Syed’s Conviction Reinstated, Won't Receive New Trial
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HBO's four-part series, "The Case Against Adnan Syed," is set to begin on Sunday.
lol yeah it was pretty obvious. It seemed like journalist was in love him with or something during the podcast
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https://nypost.com/2019/03/08/serial-subject-adnan-syeds-conviction-reinstated-by-maryland-court/
Also huffpo, CNN, rolling stone etc etc
Is that now famous Bangladeshi American activist still his attorney? Can they appeal? What's next...?
Edit: referring to Rabia Choudary, and she's not. And his legal team is "exploring other avenues".
Edit: referring to Rabia Choudary, and she's not. And his legal team is "exploring other avenues".
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Seems a lot more plausible that it was her (ex?) boyfriend instead of a completely random person.
Glad they issued this ruling before the HBO doc brings out the crazies...
I Iiked the first season of Serial like everybody else, but the guy was most likely guilty regardless of what the oddly quiet people from NPR theorized.
I don't think the HBO doc was supposed to be building up to this decision, was it?
Not really, but it would have presumably been more interesting if a new trial or appeal was under way. I'll still watch the whole thing of course.
Haha I love how absolutely positive all the junior detectives are about his guilt/innocence. Speaking of being played...
Did something else come out after Serial that made everyone so positive he's guilty? Because I remember being baffled at the conviction after listening to that shit. The weird friend who's story didn't line up and refused to comment always gave me pause. Something about this entire scenario was rotten.
About half way through the season, I thought it was pretty obvious that the reporter was running a wild goose chase and didn't know jack shit. It just riled everyone up.
Season 3 of Serial was amazing, but, yeah, what happened with that first one was real rough and did not age well.
nope. everyone just wants to run in to make sure people know they knew all along.
The thing to keep in mind with the podcast was that they didn't really investigate the murder, so much as investigate the investigation. All the witnesses and theories they explored stemmed from the prosecution's theory or police evidence.
The reason why it feels as if there are no possible other subjects, is that the police had a very narrow focus. From all accounts, Hae was very popular, we know she dated older men (Don was 20, out of high school), that she dated outside of school, she had other social circles, but if you go by the podcast, it seems like she knew half-a-dozen people in the whole world.
Ironically I think the podcast reinforces the idea that he did it for some because of how much is focuses on only a couple of people. It makes it seem as if you don't believe it was Don (or Jay), that Adnan was the only other possible suspect.
The reason why it feels as if there are no possible other subjects, is that the police had a very narrow focus. From all accounts, Hae was very popular, we know she dated older men (Don was 20, out of high school), that she dated outside of school, she had other social circles, but if you go by the podcast, it seems like she knew half-a-dozen people in the whole world.
Ironically I think the podcast reinforces the idea that he did it for some because of how much is focuses on only a couple of people. It makes it seem as if you don't believe it was Don (or Jay), that Adnan was the only other possible suspect.
No mostly just dudes wanting to idk like dunk on a years old podcast for whatever reason.
I think what Serial should have made abundantly clear was whether or not he was guilty, his legal case was a complete mess and he shouldn't have been convicted with what the prosecution presented.
That's what I took away from it.
I still don't know if he did it or not, but he definitely shouldn't have been convicted in that case
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No, it wasn't. It was about Beau Burgdahl, and I stopped listening halfway through, cause I stopped caring.
Wasn't that like, the main thing Sarah ended the podcast saying?
Yep. I don't know why people didn't take away what she was clearly ending with.
because she's a woman and thusly must be in love with someone and have anything she's actually saying invalidated
Agreed. Regardless of whether he is guilty or not, the case seemed super flimsy to me.
people saying he was guilty without a doubt: i think you'll have a surprise coming with the upcoming hbo series
serial missed so many things wrong with the prosecution's case, as uncovered by the undisclosed podcast
i'm looking forward to that information reaching a wider audience with the hbo series. y'all will be ashamed of your words and deeds
serial missed so many things wrong with the prosecution's case, as uncovered by the undisclosed podcast
i'm looking forward to that information reaching a wider audience with the hbo series. y'all will be ashamed of your words and deeds
No they won't. Anyone so sure of themselves doesn't care when shown evidence. They will remain with their original opinion.
People retro-actively bashing Serial S1? lmao, cmon now.
Like a sane person, I still cant figure if he really is guilty or not. However, to say that the case was strong enough to judge him guilty is a joke. Fiancee has been listening to Undisclosed and I'm super excited for the HBO Doc.
Like a sane person, I still cant figure if he really is guilty or not. However, to say that the case was strong enough to judge him guilty is a joke. Fiancee has been listening to Undisclosed and I'm super excited for the HBO Doc.
But on Friday, Maryland's highest court, the Court of Appeals, ruled in a 4-to-3 decision that while Mr. Syed's defense lawyer had been "deficient" in not calling a potential alibi witness to testify during the trial 19 years ago, ultimately Mr. Syed was not "prejudiced" by that deficiency.
Not prejudiced? She was maybe the only credible and impartial witness that claims to have been with him during a crucial period of time. I feel it's more likely than not that he committed the murder, but thankfully that's not the stand of proof in a criminal trial (although more and more it seems to be that way). Not sure what other avenues for relief he has available. The guy is about the same age as me and I can't even imagine what it would be like to spend the best years of life in prison. Hell, just knowing you'll die in prison must be a mind fuck. If he did it, no sympathy. But this case had so many unanswered questions that I just don't know how anyone could say beyond a reasonable doubt that it was him.
Not prejudiced? She was maybe the only credible and impartial witness that claims to have been with him during a crucial period of time. I feel it's more likely than not that he committed the murder, but thankfully that's not the stand of proof in a criminal trial (although more and more it seems to be that way). Not sure what other avenues for relief he has available. The guy is about the same age as me and I can't even imagine what it would be like to spend the best years of life in prison. Hell, just knowing you'll die in prison must be a mind fuck. If he did it, no sympathy. But this case had so many unanswered questions that I just don't know how anyone could say beyond a reasonable doubt that it was him.
Relevant: The Onion's OPR Podcast A Very Fatal Murder
OPR Presents: A Very Fatal Murder - Episode 1: A Perfect Murder
I... don't understand how people can be so confident in his guilt. I guess it feels like anyone arrested and convicted is just assumed to be 100% guilty with no doubt even though the system has been shown to be broken in so many ways. He could have done it, but I don't see how anyone could really know for sure based on that investigation.
There's also an undercurrent of sexism to it that keeps cropping up. "She was clearly just in love with him." It's even in this thread!
That's where it breaks down for me too. I honestly think Adnan is guilty but if I was part of the jury in his trial there is no way I would vote guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. There is simply too little information about his whereabouts. And the lack of an alibi is not an issue to me. There simply isn't any good real evidence that isn't controversial (like the cell phone towers).