Already stated there are, and there are:But they aren't signs that the house isn't being used.
Old car means nothing.
House is clean.
Power is connected.
Lawn is mowed.
Already stated there are, and there are:
Signs of squatters previously.
Squatters trash in the house still.
The car.
OP has said they've scoped it out for a while and seen no activity.
And electricity is easy to hack, OP has not said they have checked. And OP said they have been there for a while?
All signs it's not currently in use, but that could mean anything like they're on holiday.
So it's clearly not abandoned, and it's clearly a bad idea to try to squat this.
Which the posts you're currently replying to literally acknowledge.Yet you have been advocating further research. This is a lost cause and foolish.
Already stated there are, and there are:
Signs of squatters previously.
Squatters trash in the house still.
The car.
OP has said they've scoped it out for a while and seen no activity.
And electricity is easy to hack, OP has not said they have checked. And OP said they have been there for a while?
All signs it's not currently in use, but that could mean anything like they're on holiday.
So it's clearly not abandoned, and it's clearly a bad idea to try to squat this.
No, when they all add up they are all signs it's not currently in use... but when considering all info so far, it's obvous this is not enough to call it abandoned and OP should stop trying to squat this.The car means nothing. Granted, if you've never lived outside a city it might not make sense, but go anywhere semi-final and you'll find abandoned/decaying/project cars in front of homes.
And OP found a pile of cans, not signs of a previous squat. That could have easily just been lazy cleanup. Have you never put off cleaning up after a party?
You're reaching with all of your "signs."
Which the posts you're currently replying to literally acknowledge.
If OP wants to continue, for whatever reason, they need to do more research. My advice would be to not go any further though, as explained.
There are signs it's not in use currently, but it's clearly not abandoned so they may just be away temporarily."There are signs a place is abandoned, they don't appear when you go on vacation."
I've been hacking meters for years in th UK for people in squats, it's very easy to do without detection. In the UK at least, may be different in the US.astro I doubt anyone hacked the meter, when those things get disconnected it sends a signal back to the power company, they might not check it out that day but they would know pretty darn quick if anyone tampered with it.
There are signs it's not in use currently, but it's clearly not abandoned so they may just be away temporarily.
I have made myself clear, I apologize if I was not clear before. At this point I see no value in repeating this.
I have explained what I meant and apologized if I was unclear. Not sure what you want next?You asked where you said it was abandoned I pointed it out to you.
I literally say this in the post you quote.
Signs it's not being used, but obviously not abandoned and detail that it's a bad idea to try to squat...
The idea that someone was previously squatting there and then just left is completely ludicrous. Why would a squatter leave a nice house? Why would they be absent the vast majority of the time? I mean the whole fucking point of squatting is you gotta make extra effort to be there for years and years and never leave in order to claim it.
The obvious explanation (well, obvious to everyone else here) is that the homeowner, a family member, or a friend is there occasionally to take care of the place. This isn't a rare situation.
I have enjoyed watching you gradually move the advice based on "research" after having not read the thread originally 😛
OP, as someone who is working through a parents sudden and absolutely debilitating disability, causing me to spend the last 9 months attempting to settle her affairs: if a rando made my life more difficult due to some cutesy crap like this, I would absolutely fight it tooth and nail with zero sympathy. I'd be pissed as hell.
Leave these people alone. There is a very high likelihood that someone is hurting hard here, and struggling to keep up.
It's been a wild ride.I have enjoyed watching you gradually move the advice based on "research" after having not read the thread originally 😛
The idea that someone was previously squatting there and then just left is completely ludicrous. Why would a squatter leave a nice house? Why would they be absent the vast majority of the time? I mean the whole fucking point of squatting is you gotta make extra effort to be there for years and years and never leave in order to claim it.
The obvious explanation (well, obvious to everyone else here) is that the homeowner, a family member, or a friend is there occasionally to take care of the place. This isn't a rare situation.
lttp but that 'abandoned' house's lawn looks better maintained than my own lawn...
lol it would be funny if OP fixes & upgrades the house and all that; then in the 9th year in the 11th month the original owner shows up & evicts him
Yep, naïve to think we're gonna forget this thread haha
Idk. This sounds like the situation with my grandparents. We had to move them out of their house into retirement home and have been trying to sell the house for the past 2 years. So it sits pretty abandoned and is not maintained, but it still has power and obviously belongs to someone lol
The law wisely provides for society to make the best use of land by leaving piles of beer cans in other people's propertyDon't you wish you had people just busting in and leaving beer cans? It's the ethical thing ya know.
The law wisely provides for society to make the best use of land by leaving piles of beer cans in other people's property
OP should just get in on the sale of properties with delinquent property taxes if he's just looking for a random house. Just have to pay the last 3/4 years of back taxes and you'll eventually either get paid in full with interest or you get a house.
You might have to deal with other liens and/or an eviction. Tax sales do not guarantee clear title.
Just Google tax sale/auction for your local city. And have big pockets. These aren't loans. You pay cash upfront.
I was going to add this. Also, last I studied, in some jurisdictions, if you claim ownership in bad faith, adverse possession will NOT even apply.This. I had a bar exam question all about it. It exists in both common law and civil law jurisdictions so I got the joy of studying in English and Spanish.
In most civil law jurisdictions it's usually 30 years in the case of bad faith possession (you knew that house wasnt yours) and 10 years or so if you bought but it turned out to not be legit. It must be notorious that you claimed it (all the neighborhood knows).
In common law jurisdictions, same rules sort of apply but states like Florida add stuff like paying taxes and building a fence.
In other words, bad faith possession takes up to 30 years plus other requirements to take hold. You'll never make it, OP. But consult a lawyer in your state and bring him some lols.
lol I remember that, I wonder what that guy ended up doingThis reminds me of a thread on the old site about a guy who was planning to flee the country to escape his student loans.
I don't think "paying" for things is really the OP's bagOP should just get in on the sale of properties with delinquent property taxes if he's just looking for a random house. Just have to pay the last 3/4 years of back taxes and you'll eventually either get paid in full with interest or you get a house.
I haven't seen anyone here in the last five months of driving by, time to adversely possess the thread