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After 17 years, Hugh Jackman will finaly wear the Wolverine costume...
- Thread starter Sargerus
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Has he ever been spotted in the costume? Like not even in concept art?
He should just do it one time so the fans can stop losing their minds about it.
I can understand though cuz Fox has the worst CBM costumes besides Deadpool.
He should just do it one time so the fans can stop losing their minds about it.
I can understand though cuz Fox has the worst CBM costumes besides Deadpool.
Who would use riveted metallic plates in a fucking suitcase? They're lucky you can't pause in cinema sometimes.Well, I guess it's--
You know what? No. It's not better than nothing.
We almost had it. It was SO CLOSE.
Well, I guess it's--
You know what? No. It's not better than nothing.
We almost had it. It was SO CLOSE.
That costume will never look good in live-action, and it's so antithetical to Logan's personality. A picture of it in a suitcase doesn't prove a thing of its value.
Haha, he should do it for charity. Ask fans to pay up to finally see him in the costume. 500.000 dollars for the belt. 2.000.000 for the mask, etc.
"And just like that, three gajillion dollars were raised and earth was saved forever."
"And just like that, three gajillion dollars were raised and earth was saved forever."
The mask should go, or at least be redesigned.It could woooooooork
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Emphasis on "sort of" :)
I think it could work on an older X-23 (although I don't want a recast). But no mask.
It's not gonna take that long for Dafne Keen to reach the age where she can show up in an X-Force movie or something.
It could woooooooork
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No the helmet looks terrible. The rest I'll give you looks good. Those eye wings are ridiculous and serve no function.
Yikes. Some things just don't work on the big screen and I'm glad the directors realized that.
Imagine if he had put on that ugly, goofy mask in cinematic masterpiece Logan? Would have ruined the tone of the film.
Imagine if he had put on that ugly, goofy mask in cinematic masterpiece Logan? Would have ruined the tone of the film.
That mask serves zero purpose.It could woooooooork
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The difference is purpose. Cap is wearing a literal propaganda costume given a utilitarian makeover. Thor is wearing viking space armor. Hawkeye is wearing a tactical suit, same with Black Widow. Vision is a robot who only wears a cape out of some respect of Thor. Black Panther's costume is a traditional symbolic warrior costume given a technological makeover.
Why does Wolverine wear that mask with the goofy wings peeking out to the side? He's the guy that would rather insult someone looking for like an idiot while chomping a cigar, and yet he wears a costume to make him look like a glorified raccoon? Ooo and it has claw marks to show how "fierce" he is!
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Why does Black Panther have the ears? Dude's allowed to sorta look like a wolverine. They can make it look cool, mask included.
He could look like a superhero. The Vision's cape being based on Thor is a retcon for the movies. They could do a similar thing for Wolvie's mask if they wanted to.
He could look like a superhero. The Vision's cape being based on Thor is a retcon for the movies. They could do a similar thing for Wolvie's mask if they wanted to.
This should be wolverines second mutation.Why does Black Panther have the ears? Dude's allowed to sorta look like a wolverine. They can make it look cool, mask included.
He could look like a superhero. The Vision's cape being based on Thor is a retcon for the movies. They could do a similar thing for Wolvie's mask if they wanted to.
Now if he just wore that on his head I'd be okay with it.Why does Black Panther have the ears? Dude's allowed to sorta look like a wolverine. They can make it look cool, mask included.
He could look like a superhero. The Vision's cape being based on Thor is a retcon for the movies. They could do a similar thing for Wolvie's mask if they wanted to.
Alive of course. It would be like that guy in FFXIII with a chocobo living in his hair.
Edit: oh and now we can quote big pictures without deforming the page. Neat!
Again, BP's costume has cultural significance. Any motifs it carries for the movies is still based in that culture.
If I'm a professional costume designer for the next X-Men movie, and I'm studying the character from the script and having to design his outfit, what about Wolverine reads like a guy who wears this goofy wing mask? The guy already has this ridiculous inexplicable haircut. He's gonna wear this extremely inconvenient wing mask so that he can "become the beast"?
If I'm a professional costume designer for the next X-Men movie, and I'm studying the character from the script and having to design his outfit, what about Wolverine reads like a guy who wears this goofy wing mask? The guy already has this ridiculous inexplicable haircut. He's gonna wear this extremely inconvenient wing mask so that he can "become the beast"?
I have literally always thought the wolverine costume was dumb, and it was a large part of why as a kid I didn't really respect X-Men or wolverine. I just thought the blue and yellow outfits looked dumb.
Wolverine starts out in Weapon X. He gets a code name. He's forced to hide his face, being an asset to the program. Someone designs his outfit based on the code name. You can add more context to why the name "wolverine" is chosen if you want. His general silhouette becomes iconic as a superpowered murderous assassin. Tone down the width of the eye-ears.
OR, someone in the fucking X-Men designs the team costumes and is having a laugh. They're whimsical. It clashes with Logan's personality but he puts on the costume anyway. It's oddly fitting. He looks cool.
Guys, this can happen!
OR, someone in the fucking X-Men designs the team costumes and is having a laugh. They're whimsical. It clashes with Logan's personality but he puts on the costume anyway. It's oddly fitting. He looks cool.
Guys, this can happen!
Well, I guess it's--
You know what? No. It's not better than nothing.
We almost had it. It was SO CLOSE.
Where is that from?
NERD!!!!!
Ahem, just kidding. First paragraph is really good. It could work in a comic-book mini I think. But explaining all of that in a movie with a limited runtime, I don't know. But hey, I agree, it could work. I'm just not that attached to the mask or to the idea of Wolvie as a superhero in general. He's a mutant who has to fight for his kind on occasion. And by that I mean like 30 times a week.
A deleted scene from The Wolverine.
What shadowy government agency puts their secret enhanced assassins in flashy colorful jumpsuits? Why would he not be wearing a uniform, like, y'know, soldiers do? Maybe he gets some extra special gear, but I can't imagine the approval process of getting a goofy looking animal mask on their soldiers. Again, even Captain America's costume had to be justified as a piece of wartime propaganda. Also usually the point of assassins is to like... not have them be seen. Or to look as nondescript as possible, and not at all something you could tie to a specific agency, or even to another attack.
And if someone on the X-men designed it as a goof, why the hell would Wolverine put it on at all instead of looking at whoever made it and telling them to fuck off? Wouldn't he more than likely just wear his jacket and regular clothes in that case? Or even like just a black shirt and pants considering he's the former black ops soldier guy who should know the tactical importance of not plainly visible clothing?
Like, shit flies in the comics and no one bats an eye. Because it's the comics, and usually they're too busy fighting mutant dinosaurs from the Savage Land on a regular basis for anyone to notice. A movie trying to sell even a slightly realistic or relatable world would deeefinitely have a problem of selling that.
Khanimus, or Shaanyboi, or my guy, or what have you-- no. Because it's a comic book movie. And if he didn't debut in a movie that was afraid to be a comic book movie, he'd have the mask. He probably wouldn't be putting it on in James Mangold's Logan. But he would wear it.
"It's a comic book movie, who cares" isn't how costume designers do their jobs. Not good ones, anyway.
I very much agree. However, I feel like I put more effort into rationalizing his mask in the posts above than most superhero movie producers did in the entire Aughts.
Regarding the "realistic" assassin agency-- OK. It's Weapon X. Deadpool exists. The guy has metal damn retractable claws and can heal from being exploded. FULLY exploded. Weapon X is allowed to be comic book-y.
Just ditch the whole headgear in general and do his hair pointy again. Same thing, just toned down.
The rest of the costume is pretty rad imo
The rest of the costume is pretty rad imo
I don't get why everyone assumed it was spandex. I always thought it was some kind of thick leather like armour in the comics.
The X-Men movies were sold as sci-fi action films, not as comicbook superheroes. Whether it be poorly conceived civil rights parables, notions of biological and sociological evolution, or even Teriminator-style robot apocalypses, they've still stuck to that mould. Apocalypse is maybe the first of these films that feels like the X-Men from the comics. It's also a pretty bad movie. Maybe if they get Phoenix Saga to work with the their generally brighter tone, colorful costumes etc., then you can get a ludicrous Wolverine mask in there. But even Marvel, with their playful tone and ridiculous shit still design from a point of view of utility in a way that's appropriate to the characters.
Deadpool is its own weird thing, it operates like its own weird thing, and when he finally starts showing up in the other X-Men movies, then you can start making those comparisons. But as of right now, it plays by its own rules which feel appropriate for what that movie needs to be.
Nowadays, sure. A lot more thought goes into understanding clothing and fabric when dealing with costumed heroes in just the last few years by artists. But the way costumes like that were drawn for decades were as if they were wearing easily tearable fabric. There are so many images out there of that stuff torn to shreds and just loosely hanging off these characters in ways something like armor or leather never does. If it was meant to be leather, the artists clearly had no grasp of how leather actually looks or moves.
Wolverines frighten me. It's time my enemies shared my dread.Why does Black Panther have the ears? Dude's allowed to sorta look like a wolverine. They can make it look cool, mask included.
He could look like a superhero. The Vision's cape being based on Thor is a retcon for the movies. They could do a similar thing for Wolvie's mask if they wanted to.
I'm all for this... but only if it's Hugh Jackman playing himself and Deadpool isn't actually aware that it's not Logan himself.
It could woooooooork
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The mask ruins it, bro. Im a huge Wolverine fan, love the 90s design the most but that mask lol. Redesign or lose it all together, otherwise that suit is pretty decent.
Completely changed what I was thinking of when I read this post. I want this way, way more than I want to discuss costume design for an as yet imaginary X-men reboot.