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After shooting his father in the back, 11 year old tells investigators there will be a part 2 if he doesn’t get a PlayStation, Xbox and a PC
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He concocted a plan to steal a gun from his dad, and when to shoot him, but not how to get the stuff he demanded afterwards. Did he think the cops were just gonna let him go home after he shot one person and threatened to do it again? There's a step missing from this plan.
That's irresponsible. You're just passing the problem on to some one else who probably can't handle it either. Kid needs to be put in a psychiatric hospital. Particularly one specializing in psychopaths. Lucky for the kid they have come up with some developments on how to get psychopaths to integrate into society (it used to be a nothing can be done kind of prognosis except keep them locked away from others for the other people's safety).
It may sound easy to blame the parents here, but I don't think that is the case here. Of course I don't know what the home life is there, but torturing dogs and wanting too shoot your father in the head for pretty petty reasons sounds more like sociopathy or psychopathy. And I imagine that as a parent that would not only be hard to deal with, but also hard to accept.
why even bother joking. yeah this kid needs help because just locking him up isn't going to help matters and it will likely turn him into a real menace when he gets out.
Obviously the dad couldn't have predicted this, but a car is not a gun safe, the only secure way of storing firearms. I remember when my best friend growing up starting getting hunting rifles (common in MS), and his parents mandated that he had to save up for a gun safe first, that only they had the combination for. That's how you lock up guns.
Locking it in the car is dumb since a kid probably learns about car keys when they're like 5.
That probably wouldn't help. Sometimes physical punishment produces worse effects - like its a challenge. Ever see a kid get whooped, yet they don't cry, they just snarl at you? Yeah. That can happen.
I have an autistic child, and my kid went to school with a child that I feel is very similar to this kid. His mother took away his tablet because he was doing something that he shouldn't be doing. He got a mug, filled it with water and put it in the microwave until it was boiling, went into the living room, and threw it at her. It thankfully only hit her in the chest - she would have been fucked if it hit her face. When his dad came downstairs after hearing her screaming, he told the dad that she hurt him, so he was going to hurt her more. He was 9 at the time.
His parents aren't assholes. They went through all sorts of financial hoops to get their kid into a center for children with developmental needs. They don't physically punish their child - that doesn't work. They try to raise a kid that I wouldn't be able to handle.
This cop is in over his head. He is going to need some really skilled therapists to help with his son. Otherwise he's raising a criminal.
Sure absolutely but it's still something.
Not like it was in his closet.
My psycho older brother threatened to cut me and my parents up into little pieces with a butcher knife countless times. Fortunately, he only ever carried through on his violent threats with his fists.
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That kid needs some serious help, and hopefully he finds it. Sometimes, when seeing cases like this it's easy to put the blame on the parents, but that's a bad ass kid. He planned to shoot his father, made steps to do it, including searching their car three times for the gun and testing its power on their dog, and then did it. That's sociopathic behavior.
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The other articles imply it's not great
https://www.southbendtribune.com/ne...cle_12f27712-6170-55c1-84b3-6dcf401802db.html
If that 2nd one is true then his parents have some culpability in how insane he is.
Don't be so quick to condemn the parents. I've seen kids like this at pediatric psychiatric wards. Many times they are just born without the ability to empathize. There is a test done to measure empathy and appropriate social reactions. Kids like this score in the sub 1% on emotional intelligence and empathy.
There is no cure, but therapy and medication helps. These kids can learn how to practice what empathy is over time.
There is no cure, but therapy and medication helps. These kids can learn how to practice what empathy is over time.
don't think banning guns would stop a situation where a kid gets a hold of his fathers service weapon
Oh that's not good to hear. While it's possible that those stories may have been made up, especially if it was the kid who reported it since lying like that would fall in line with the everything else, it sounds more like a combination of mental illness and bad home life/woefully ill-equipped parents.
The father kept his gun locked in his police cruiser precisely to avoid this kind of problem. Typically gun violence in the home is because of that irresponsibility (of having accessible guns in your home or having them at home at all), but in this case it sounds like the father was doing what he should and the kid was just that determined.
Here the dad seemed to have a full understanding of what gun ownership means, which shouldn't be commended, but common sense is uncommon on guns.
Sounds scary to have child like that.
I really don't know how i would handle it. At his age i had an incident where police was involved and i knew that i had to think before i speak because you can't just say whatever you want in front of those people even though i was the victim.
Who should society try to protect in this situation? The kid or the possible future victims?
I really don't know how i would handle it. At his age i had an incident where police was involved and i knew that i had to think before i speak because you can't just say whatever you want in front of those people even though i was the victim.
Who should society try to protect in this situation? The kid or the possible future victims?
Except the park where you keep in a safe or lock your car keys away at least.
User Banned (Permanent): Advocating euthanasia of children
This is a future serial killer. No amount of rehabilitation will be able to help the kid.
There needs to be a euthanasia law for something like this, as an act of mercy.
There needs to be a euthanasia law for something like this, as an act of mercy.
Eeesh. No. I don't know if this kid in particular will be able to come around, but there are tons of others just like him getting therapy and help for similar deficits. They may never have the natural ability to relate emotionally, but they can learn how to act in society and practice correct responses. Most of them do not end up violent killers.
Without any extra information, a lot of these posts are self-satisfied victim blaming, nothing more.
Exactly. The article some one posted about rehabbing psychopath kids was talking about how they really don't respond to punishment, it doesn't even phase them. But that they found they respond to reward, they are very wired to want that reward so the best way to get them to respond in a way you want them to behave is to use rewards to entice htem. Punish them and they won't even notice, they'll just decide maybe to get even (like this kid did when his dad took away his game console).
Locking him is going to help a ton. It's just the other potential victims that will be helped. And he might not ever get out if the doctors still consider him a latent threat.
A psychiatric hospital is the only realist option. The parents aren't going to love or trust the kid anymore, and its not just a matter of securing the firearms. He might reach for a knife next. The parents won't dare scold the kid anymore out of fear of what he might do.
The family's bonds with the kid are already destroyed behond recovery.
What in the fucking world? Even if this is a joke post this is a fucked up post.
Sometimes they do actually. Not all serial killers have sob stories.
In my shoes, I'd try to give the kid up for adoption.
I don't want to be worried every day that my kid is going to throw a random tantrum and shoot me. I have to think about my safety as well as my wife's and the safety of my other kids if I have them.
Yep, that's right. Punishments and consequences don't work very well on a child that does not have the ability to reflect or regret their actions and how it hurt others. They have a very hard time accepting responsibility for their actions.
Extremely controversial, yes, but when the kid is already testing weapons on animals and shooting people with a cold expression and intent for more, it should be an option.
The kid's brain isn't even fully developed yet and you're talking about killing him off.
Sociopaths manipulate and lie. It's a hallmark of the condition.
You can't fix sociopathy. Given his tendency for violence, he needs to be held in a secure psychiatric ward, probably forever.
No, the child is a sociopath. He's also attacked peers and animals.
If you're advocating shooting 11-year-old children showing signs of mental illness, you're just as fucked up as this kid is. More-so because you're a grown-ass adult who, very likely unlike this particular child, understands right from wrong.
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