I see one person here emphasizing with their intent but not the action.
Perfectly put.
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Airline passenger films man punching her economy seat after she reclines
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Usually if someone reclines in front of me I just do the same, it's not really that big of a deal. If I ever do recline, I just do it a tiny bit, because I don't want to bother who's behind me. It's annoying, sure, but to just passive aggressively poke/shake/punch the back of a seat is fucking childish. I tend to get seats at the back so I can recline without bothering anyone, though.
He was...
punching
the back
of her chair
Reclining might annoy you, but that is not justified in any way.
Then you need to count again, I see multiple on this page alone.
No. Because the airlines specifically tell you there is No Smoking on the plane.
However, if you reserve a table in the smoking section of a restaurant, then start attacking people for smoking, you're a psychopath.
He could have just requested it like a normal adult obviously, but I 100% get his frustration. It's a selfish, inconsiderate thing to do.
I mean, if he eats his phone it's gonna hurt at some point...
And smacking the back her chair is far worse.
Who the fuck cares. This does not give you the agency to be physically aggressive.
It's extremely immature but this shouldn't even be an option to begin with.
I don't like seat reclining as much as the next person but the OP seems to be taking the side of the guy punching and pushing someone's seat.
He's not holding a fussy kid that doesn't have a seat or working on a laptop he's sitting there on his phone, boo hoo. I would normally say it's rude to fully recline a seat but it really doesn't affect your leg room, you might need to adjust the screen on the back of the seat, it's annoying but it's not taking away space you're normally occupying.
He's not holding a fussy kid that doesn't have a seat or working on a laptop he's sitting there on his phone, boo hoo. I would normally say it's rude to fully recline a seat but it really doesn't affect your leg room, you might need to adjust the screen on the back of the seat, it's annoying but it's not taking away space you're normally occupying.
i responded to that quote. Why don't you respond to my retort? Also your point isn't anywhere in their post.
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What I like Is that when most people get into a car in the front seat - if someone behind them- they will most likely ask "do you have enough leg room-can I move my seat up?"
Those same people get on a plane and all bets are off - common courtesy goes right out the window.
Those same people get on a plane and all bets are off - common courtesy goes right out the window.
I said as much in my first post, he should've been removed from the flight. Just like if you punch the guy who steps on your foot or manspreads, you go to jail.
Still beside the point in this specific instance. The escalation is completely unjustified.
Jesus christ some of you are some petulant motherfuckers.
Who cares!? I fly like once every two months on average, always economy, and I don't give two shits if the person in front of me reclines. I'll recline too, unless the passenger behind me has a baby or something.
Get over yourselves, my god. It's not the end of the world and if the seats have the option then why not use it?
I'm 6' and 180lbs for the record, so I'm not a small guy.
Who cares!? I fly like once every two months on average, always economy, and I don't give two shits if the person in front of me reclines. I'll recline too, unless the passenger behind me has a baby or something.
Get over yourselves, my god. It's not the end of the world and if the seats have the option then why not use it?
I'm 6' and 180lbs for the record, so I'm not a small guy.
Reclining is fine for late-night flights when you're trying to rest (and people not trying to sleep can deal).
It's rude during the daytime.
It's rude during the daytime.
Her Twitter feed is right there.
The flight was on January 31st.
She tried emailing AA three times to no response.
They didn't acknowledge her until she went public on Twitter, so she wants to keep it public.
She is not claiming these events made her get surgery. She had cervical fusion in the past which has been aggravated by this man's actions.
I fly somewhat often and I don't recline - except maybe for long-haul 8+ hour flights. I'm more of the opinion that if you do not want to be at the mercy of other's actions on the flight, then pay up for an upgraded ticket so you can avoid issues like these. Just like a crying babies or loud conversation, get headphones to solve that problem.
Ultimately, the seats are made to recline. And until they aren't, it's all fair game. That's on your seat selection if you choose to fly economy then complain about the features possible in that seat and the airline for packing seats in like they do in economy.
I do know the reaction shouldn't be hitting the seat in front - the airline will be paying for their dumbass reaction to that.
Ultimately, the seats are made to recline. And until they aren't, it's all fair game. That's on your seat selection if you choose to fly economy then complain about the features possible in that seat and the airline for packing seats in like they do in economy.
I do know the reaction shouldn't be hitting the seat in front - the airline will be paying for their dumbass reaction to that.
Your response was to excuse people whom abuse the ability to do a *thing* at the expense of other's well being just because they can. I didn't think that nightmare logic warranted a reply.
maybe he did ask and then she was rude about it. she's a steelers fan so i wouldnt be surprised
The ADULT thing to do would have been to ask the person to raise the seatback, but no dude goes straight to hitting her headrest!? what a fucking child.
Those first two aren't condoning the action and the latter two were posted after you insisted this was the case. Epic.
It's funny how most of the people in here who ACTUALLY fly economy like... frequently...are baffled by the people that seem to suggest reclining will squish you like a panini.
I'm flying tomorrow. Feel like I should take photos and post them here. (Oh wait no I won't because whycantanyofyoufuckersjustbenormal)
Reclining sucks when the tray table is forced to an angle, and when the backseat screen is angled down, and especially bad for tall folks. I'm six feet tall and my knees are already in a bad way when reclining happens - can't imagine what it's like for folks taller than I am, but it must be miserable.
This. If it's available, then people are going to use it. If it's not, problem solved. Also, nothing wrong with taking a peek behind you before reclining your seat. Like I don't recline my seat ever, but even if I did I wouldn't if there was someone I would be causing physical discomfort to.
I knew you'd try to spin this.... them saying they understand is very much supporting his behaviour.
And you can go further back and read if you like. It's not hard.
sure but the issue in this thread isn't some war between recliners and non-recliners. The specific issue is that someone did something another person didn't like and they responded violently in kind. I've never disagreed in this thread about reclining being pretty inconsiderate, but the response in this thread is embarrassing. You don't need to both sides anyone in this situation because reclining a seat isn't as bad as physical aggression no matter how much you hate it. Unfortunately Dalek doesn't care about discourse and decided to fan the flame of stupidity.
If someone reclining is bothering you, you ought to approach them like an adult about it. If you're going to recline, you ought to ask the person behind you if it's okay. Talk. Use your words. Adult stuff. That's about it.
Neither of these approaches to this problem were in any way the appropriate way to go about it.
Neither of these approaches to this problem were in any way the appropriate way to go about it.
Because it's sElfiSH to put your own comfort over someone else's comfort, despite no one seeming to see the irony that they are basically saying the same but opposite (person in back gets priority over person in front).
apparently it's opposites day and "i'm not saying that his retaliation was right" means something else.
What he did was childish, but she should have asked if he was ok with her putting her seat back. That shit is annoying as fuck especially if you're using the little tray. Both parties are dumb as fuck here.
This is a great response so I don't have much to add, but I'd like to point out that manspreading, putting your bag on a seat, and sticking legs out are not features of riding the subway and are not normal, reasonable responses to riding the subway.
Reclining your seat is a feature provided by the airlines to ameliorate the effects of sitting in an uncomfortable chair for an extended period of time.
Reasonable people can have a conversation around what's too much--"hey man, your chair is digging into my knees." "well, I had back surgery last week and my back is killing me." "Okay, I understand that but can you lean up just to where you aren't digging into my knees?" "Sure, no problem."
Not hard.
Totally not defending the psychopath in the videos reaction just for the record. Just saying just because its there its not an absolute right. There are other reasons why its there.
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