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Airline passenger films man punching her economy seat after she reclines
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So you really do think his behaviour is a justified response? Jfc mate... what is up with some of you...
And I'm just over 6 foot, I don't care if someone in front of me reclines.
His behavior is ridiculous, but reclining in economy is a dick move. Obviously he is more out of line but they really should remove the reclining feature from economy seats or increase the amount of leg room.
People that recline their seat tend to not do so with the intention to discomfort somebody. You don't see that?
You prefacing you never recline reads pretty clearly as you stating your moral position on it.
If it's a feature on the airplane for other passengers to use, then they can use it if they want to. Are you going to get mad at someone if they have their window shade up and you don't want it to be for some reason? Or would you just politely ask them to close it like a normal human being?
Good lord some of you. I can see if you're in the last row unable to recline, but I've yet to see anyone get upset by someone reclining.
It's fucking wild.
I fly multiple times a year (to be fair, like every month to every other month) in economy. Reclining seats do not go down as much as some people think they do.
Now, granted, if someone is like 6'8" or have particularly long legs, then yeah it would be bad and I can understand not reclining because it would actually physically affect them. That being said, that's not anywhere close to being the norm. Those people are exceptions- the average American male isn't even 6'. lol
I fully understand his reaction... anyone who reclines their seat on an airplane can go to hell. But I can't imagine having the audacity to do it.. it's really insane to say the least.
i don't know enough to say that it was or wasn't. from the video he looks pretty tall, i don't know what kind of damage was potentially done to his knees.
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But this is the crux of the issue. They recline-EVEN IF they know they cause discomfort.
Okay I take the above back, you're just straight up condoning his antisocial physicality as justified.
What happens if someone walking next to you plays their music a little bit louder because they can't hear it over yours?
The worst is when I ask for the bassinet seats since they have more legroom and parents sitting next to me have the gall to actually use the fucking bassinet for their crying infant. I don't need that noise next to me. Fuck!
The crux of this issue, ITT, tbf... is the dude hitting the chair in retaliation.
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i'm not saying that his retaliation was right... but i understand.
I'd move away (create more distance). This is not difficult to figure out.
There's a reasonable response to any genuine and harmful discomfort (not just a minor inconvenience), and that is not what he did.
You were actually, and you still are by saying you understand it.
No, she's saying because of her pre-existing condition, being punched like that made her have to do everything in the latter half.
i think she's saying that happened prior to this so she should be allowed to slam her chair into his knees without recourse.
If you're not trolling there's something very wrong with your thought process here...
the problem is, that as long as airlines allow plane seats to recline it is reasonable to believe that people will recline their seats. There is no going over the line here except for the person angrily punching the chair in front of them. Again, any reasonable person would've had a conversation with the person in front of them. This would be different if the person had a conversation and was still refused and reclined on, but even then punching the seat is a disproportional escalation. Emotionally stable adults shouldn't be resorting to violence over a chair reclining in their face.
I fly pretty often and pretty extensively, and even on the dumpiest discount airlines I've never seen these torture seats you guys describe that clamp down on people's knees and press the back of the seat into your face. What I have seen countless of are drama queens who seem to revel in huffing and puffing about everything around them.
Grow up. No one likes flying, bring a nanny with you if you need someone to pamper you when traveling.
Grow up. No one likes flying, bring a nanny with you if you need someone to pamper you when traveling.
I'm not pre-recliner. I'm pro-"if someone is causing you discomfort, have a reasonable conversation about the issue instead of getting physical with them."
we don't know what kind of and/or level of pain he was in at the time. how can we be so sure that he was in the mental state to give a reasonable response?
Plenty of people are saying the guy was in the right... wanna count them?
What's weird is that I actually find the reclined position more uncomfortable than upright. But you know, sometimes you just gotta stick it to the person sitting behind you, so away I go.
Honestly worse than recliners are people who hog the arm rests, give problems for needing to use the washroom at a reasonable frequency, etc. For the most part I can deal with reclining seats by stretching out my legs under the seat in front of me but that also depends on if you have that space available and your body proportions. I'm 6'1" and fairly evenly proportioned between legs and torso, but leggier people might have a problem.
I don't recline because flying economy sucks and we might as well all suffer together an equal amount in that aspect. But the feature is on offer so I don't really begrudge you for using it.
I don't recline because flying economy sucks and we might as well all suffer together an equal amount in that aspect. But the feature is on offer so I don't really begrudge you for using it.
That would make way more sense, but it sure wasn't framed that way.
If you recline your seat without taking stock of anyone or anything around you, it's like manspreading, putting your bag on a seat, or sticking your legs out on a crowded subway. Yes, you technically can do this since you paid for space like everyone else and you were there first. Sure, it is strongly suggested that it might not be polite to do these things, but there are no official rules that state you have to be polite.
If you continue to recline your seat after either noticing or being informed of the pain/discomfort it is directly causing to the party behind you, it suggests a lack of empathy. It would be like stepping on someone's foot on the hypothetical crowded subway train, then refusing to move your foot for the duration of the ride because it is more comfortable for you to remain as is. No one is going to die or lose a limb from that foot mash for 20 min, but you're still an asshole for not moving.
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This thread is making me sad they already discovered a coronavirus vaccine lmao
Not trolling, why allow one passenger to greatly inconvenience another? Especially in shitty airlines where a fully reclined seat actually puts pressure on your knees. I'm not extremely tall and I had flights where I was in pain and discomfort just because the asshole in front of me thought they should have a bit more comfort. I never do it because I'm not a selfish person. To me it's equivalent to one passenger stealing the food of another.
I'm 6'2" and if someone reclines on an airplane it crushes my legs lol, I personally think it's wrong to recline on airplanes but you also can't have tantrums like this.
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